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pauljeff Nov 30, 2014 7:23 am


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 23917655)
The sixteen sector limit is a technical restriction imposed by IATA. An e-ticket cannot hold more than sixteen sectors, including surface sectors. (Well actually, each e-ticket can only hold four sectors, but you can join up to four tickets together to form a booklet of conjunction tickets.)

If you want more sectors, you will have to book them separately.

(Some airlines did used to violate this provision by creating larger ticket booklets of more than four tickets, but the tickets they produced were non-standard and caused difficulties for other airlines, so IATA has become quite strict about the 16 segment ceiling now.)

Sorry - I didn't make it clear - I meant that if I wanted more than the 4 per continent limit whilst still staying within the overall 16 limit, was there anything that I could do? Sorry I didn't make that clear first time.

Additionally - I'm getting an error:


One of the visits to Europe must be a transfer without stopover (less than 24 hours) between Africa and the previous/next continent. Additionally, travel may not include Mauritius/South Africa.
My trip starts JNB->MLE (via LON, DOH) and finishes JFK->JNB (via LON) and at no other time touches Europe - both of these stopovers are less than 24 hours. Is the rtw planner wrong? Or am I misunderstanding the rules (which I think allow you 2 visits to Europe, and 1 that lasts more than 24 hours- currently I have no visits lasting > 24 hours but 2 visits to Europe.)

Thanks in advance!

Paul

Gardyloo Nov 30, 2014 8:25 am


Originally Posted by Byrneand (Post 23916117)
Thanks Gardyloo for the reply, very helpful.

1) We'd be looking to do the trip in business.
2) Apologies yes its Male so MLE.
3) Fully aware of the infant charge of 10% which is fine. Key issue is if we are starting the trip in JNB but routing back up to London en route to MLE, can we pick up our infant at that point (say after 4/5 days with the grandparents whilst we would be in SA). E.g. Can you add the infant for specific legs?

As far as I know, no, you'd have to include the infant on all segments, but how things would actually work out in practice I can't say. Presumably by not appearing for the first segment, the infant's overall ticket would be in question.

However, you also state,

Key issue is if we are starting the trip in JNB but routing back up to London en route to MLE
This creates an unticketable itinerary, owing to the (relatively new) rule 3.2.1, to wit:


3.2.1 Africa-Europe-RTW-Europe-Africa

One of the visits to Europe must be a transfer without stopover between Africa and the previous/next continent. Travel may not include Mauritius/South Africa.
So in other words you could start in, say, Kenya, head to London then on to MLE, and then end back in Africa - anywhere except South Africa or Mauritius - provided the second pass through London (or the first) was just a plane change. But in that case, the price advantage created by starting the trip in JNB would also be moot.

It really sounds to me like you should give consideration to starting in someplace like Jordan, Israel or Egypt, eliminating the fourth continent, and still not pay too big a penalty in cost terms.

Gardyloo Nov 30, 2014 8:35 am


Originally Posted by pauljeff (Post 23918001)
Sorry - I didn't make it clear - I meant that if I wanted more than the 4 per continent limit whilst still staying within the overall 16 limit, was there anything that I could do? Sorry I didn't make that clear first time.

There used to be provision in the rules that one could purchase additional segments within all but the originating continent for $XXX per segment depending on booking class, and provided that the overall 16 segment limitation wasn't exceeded. As far as I can see, that option has been dropped from the rules.


Originally Posted by pauljeff (Post 23918001)
My trip starts JNB->MLE (via LON, DOH) and finishes JFK->JNB (via LON) and at no other time touches Europe - both of these stopovers are less than 24 hours. Is the rtw planner wrong? Or am I misunderstanding the rules (which I think allow you 2 visits to Europe, and 1 that lasts more than 24 hours- currently I have no visits lasting > 24 hours but 2 visits to Europe.)

No, the itinerary will be invalid, as it violates rule 3.2.1 -


3.2.1 Africa-Europe-RTW-Europe-Africa

One of the visits to Europe must be a transfer without stopover between Africa and the previous/next continent. Travel may not include Mauritius/South Africa.
You need to refer to the official rules when planning a complicated trip. Have aspirin handy.

Platinum A332 Dec 19, 2014 1:41 am

Not sure if this is the right place to ask but here goes;

I am looking at combining a trip into Asia and the United States early next year. I was wondering if it is possible to find Circle Pacific fare information online? (I am based in Sydney).

Is it still the case that HKG is the cheapest place to buy a circle pacific ticket in Asia? If so, is there a way this can be purchased online? I can position somewhere else in Asia if it is significantly cheaper than ex SYD.

Thanks in advance.

Calchas Dec 19, 2014 2:45 am


Originally Posted by Platinum A332 (Post 24022134)
Not sure if this is the right place to ask but here goes;

I am looking at combining a trip into Asia and the United States early next year. I was wondering if it is possible to find Circle Pacific fare information online? (I am based in Sydney).

Is it still the case that HKG is the cheapest place to buy a circle pacific ticket in Asia? If so, is there a way this can be purchased online? I can position somewhere else in Asia if it is significantly cheaper than ex SYD.

Thanks in advance.

Perhaps we should start a separate thread. For now, here is the fare information for a DCIR22.

You will have to purchase this through the airline ticketing desk or potentially through a competent travel agent.

I've not had time to look at prices for you

Code:

Fare Routing Search:
Departing HKG on 19/12/14 for HKG
Fare basis code DCIR22
Flying AA

Rule Category                          Rule Text

RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS      NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
                                          VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                          FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS CIRCLE TRIP EXPLORER
                                          FARES
                                          APPLICATION
                                            AREA
                                            THESE FARES APPLY
                                              BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3.
                                            CLASS OF SERVICE
                                            THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS
                                              SERVICE.
                                            TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
                                            FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
                                              CIRCLE-TRIP/SINGLE OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
                                            FARES APPLY BETWEEN POINTS IN AREA 1 AND AREA 3
                                              VIA THE NORTH/CENTRAL PACIFIC - IE. BETWEEN ASIA
                                              AND THE AMERICAS IN ONE DIRECTION AND VIA SOUTH
                                              PACIFIC - IE. BETWEEN THE AMERICAS AND AUSTRALIA/
                                              NEW ZEALAND IN THE OTHER DIRECTION FOR TRAVEL
                                              TRAVEL ORIGINATING AND TERMINATING IN -
                                              A. AUSTRALIA    B. BRUNEI
                                              C. CAMBODIA    D. CANADA
                                              E. CHINA        F. HONG KONG
                                              G. INDONESIA    H. JAPAN
                                              I. MALAYSIA    J. MEXICO
                                              K. MYANMAR      L. NEW ZEALAND
                                              M. PHILIPPINES  N. SINGAPORE
                                              O. SOUTH AMERICAP. SOUTH KOREA
                                              Q. TAIWAN      R. THAILAND
                                              S. USA          T. VIETNAM      ---
                                              FARES APPLY ONLY IF PURCHASED PRIOR TO DEPARTURE.
                                              ---
                                              A MAXIMUM OF 16 SEGMENTS INCLUDING SURFACE
                                              SEGMENTS BETWEEN ANY 2 AIRPORTS ARE PERMITTED
                                              FOR THE ENTIRE JOURNEY.
                                              ---
                                            CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
                                            THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
                                              CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
                                              THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
                                              AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
                                              WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
                                              FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIERS BEST
                                              JUDGEMENT.
                                            FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS CIRCLE TRIP TRAVEL
                                              VIA AA/BA/CX/JJ/JL/KA/LA/MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/UL/US
                                              /XL/4M.
                                            OTHER CONDITIONS
                                            PASSENGER EXPENSES NOT PERMITTED.
                                            ---
                                            TWO FREE PIECES OF 23 KILOS EACH SHALL BE
                                            PERMITTED.  ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCES MAY APPLY.
                                            REFER TO INDIVIDUAL CARRIER WEBSITES.
                                       
ELIGIBILITY                                NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
                                       
DAY/TIME                                  NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
                                       
SEASONALITY                                NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
                                       
FLIGHT APPLICATION                              NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  THE TOTAL JOURNEY MUST NOT EXCEED AN MPM OF -
                                                    -
                                                    ACIR22/DCIR22/LCIR22      22000
                                                    ACIR26/DCIR26/LCIR26      26000
                                                    ACIR29SA/DCIR29SA/LCIR29SA 29000
                                                    -
                                                    SURCHARGE TABLES ARE NOT PERMITTED
                                                    -
                                                    NOT EXCEED A TOTAL OF 16 SEGMENTS INCLUDING
                                                    SURFACE SEGMENTS BETWEEN ANY 2 AIRPORTS.
                                                  ---
                                                  A. TRAVEL MUST BE ON AA/BA/CX/JJ/JL/KA/LA/MH/
                                                  NU/QF/QR/RJ/UL/US/XL/4M AND THEIR AFFILIATES ONLY.
                                                  ---
                                                  B. FOR -CIR22 AND -CIR26 FARES
                                                  TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE NORTH/CENTRAL PACIFIC IN
                                                  ONE DIRECTION AND THE SOUTH WEST PACIFIC IN THE
                                                  OTHER DIRECTION OR VICE VERSA. ONLY ONE NORTH/
                                                  CENTRAL PACIFIC CROSSING AND ONE SOUTH WEST
                                                  PACIFIC CROSSING IS PERMITTED. TRAVEL ORIGINATING
                                                  IN OR INCLUDING SOUTH AMERICA IS NOT PERMITTED.
                                                  FOR -CIR29SA FARES
                                                  TRAVEL MUST ORIGINATE IN OR INCLUDE SOUTH AMERICA.
                                                  TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE NORTH/CENTRAL PACIFIC IN
                                                  ONE DIRECTION AND VIA CHILE/ARGENTINA TO/FROM
                                                  THE SOUTH WEST PACIFIC PACIFIC USING THE SERVICES
                                                  OF QF/LA IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.
                                                  ---
                                                  C. ONLY ONE INTERCONTINENTAL DEPARTURE AND ONE
                                                  INTERCONTINENTAL ARRIVAL PERMITTED IN EACH
                                                  CONTINENT.  CONTINENTS ARE DEFINED AS ASIA / NORTH
                                                  AMERICA / SOUTH AMERICA / SOUTHWEST PACIFIC.
                                                  ---
                                                  D. TRAVEL VIA THE CARIBBEAN/BERMUDA AND CENTRAL
                                                  AMERICA IS NOT PERMITTED ON ANY FARE.
                                                  ---
                                                  E.TRAVEL ON ANY AA/BA/CX/JJ/JL/KA/LA/MH/NU/QF/QR
                                                    /RJ/UL/US/XL/4M CODESHARE SERVICES OPERATED BY
                                                  AA/BA/CX/JJ/JL/KA/LA/MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/UL/US/XL/4M IS
                                                  PERMITTED.  OTHER CODESHARE SERVICES NOT
                                                  PERMITTED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF QF CODESHARE
                                                  SERVICES OPERATED BY JETSTAR / JQ /
                                                  -
                                                  TRAVEL PERMITTED ON THE FOLLOWING AIRLINES WHICH
                                                  ARE AFFILIATED WITH/OR WETLEASE PROVIDERS TO
                                                  ONEWORLD.
                                                  -
                                                  AMERICAN AIRLINES - AMERICAN EAGLE // OPERATED BY
                                                  ENVOY ARLINES / REPUBLIC AIRLINES / SKYWEST
                                                  AIRLINES / EXPRESSJET AIRLINES / MESA AIRLINES /
                                                  COMPASS AIRLINES//
                                                  -
                                                  JAPAN AIRLINES - J-AIR
                                                  -
                                                  LAN - LAN EXPRESS / LAN PERU / LAN COLOMBIA
                                                  -
                                                  QANTAS - ALLIANCE AIRLINES/QANTASLINK OPERATED
                                                  BY NATIONAL JET SYSTEMS/EASTERN AUSTRALIA
                                                  SUNSTATE AIRLINES/JETCONNECT.
                                                  -
                                                  US AIRWAYS - US AIRWAYS EXPRESS INCLUDING FLIGHTS
                                                  OPERATED BY AIR WISCONSIN / PIEDMONT AIRLINES /
                                                  PSA / REPUBLIC / SKYWEST /TRANS STATES / MESA
                                                  AIRLINES.
                                                  ---
                                                  F. TRAVEL MAY ORIGINATE AT ANY POINT FOR WHICH
                                                  FARES ARE PUBLISHED AND MUST TERMINATE AT THE SAME
                                                  POINT EXCEPT THAT ORIGIN - DESTINATION SURFACE
                                                  SEGMENTS ARE PERMITTED AS FOLLOW -
                                                    A. WITHIN COUNTRY OF ORIGIN
                                                    B. BETWEEN USA AND CANADA
                                                  ---
                                                  G. TRAVEL MAY NOT BE VIA THE POINT OF ORIGIN
                                                  ---
                                                  H. TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED VIA ANY COUNTRY IN THE
                                                  SOUTH ASIAN SUB CONTINENT.
                                                  ---
                                                  I. SURFACE TRAVEL AND USE OF OTHER CARRIERS
                                                  BETWEEN INTERMEDIATE POINTS ALONG THE CIRCLE WHICH
                                                  ARE NOT OPERATED BY AA/BA/CX/JJ/JL/KA/LA/MH/NU/QF/
                                                  QR/RJ/US/XL/4M IS PERMITTED AT THE PASSENGERS
                                                  EXPENSE AND MUST BE TICKETED SEPARATELY. MILEAGE
                                                  MUST BE INCLUDED IN THE MPM CALCULATION.
                                       
ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING            RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR DEPARTURE OF FIRST
                                          INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
                                          WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 29 DAYS BEFORE
                                          DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED AT LEAST 25
                                          DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
                                          OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED.
                                          OR - RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR DEPARTURE OF FIRST
                                                INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
                                                WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AT LEAST 8 DAYS BEFORE
                                                DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3
                                                DAYS AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 7
                                                DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
                                                OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED.
                                          OR - RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR DEPARTURE OF FIRST
                                                INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
                                                TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 24 HOURS AFTER
                                                RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 1 HOUR BEFORE
                                                DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
                                                OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED.
                                                NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  OSI YY OW CIR TO BE INSERTED INTO PNR TO AVOID
                                                  RESERVATION CANCELLATION.
                                                  ----------
                                                  BOOKING CLASS CODES
                                                                              FIRST BUSINESS ECONOMY
                                                  AA/BA/CX/QF/QR/JL/KA/MH/US    A    D      L
                                                  JJ                            J    J      H
                                                  LA                            D    D/W    L
                                                  RJ/UL/XL/4M/LA IPC-SCL        D    D      L
                                                  LA/XL/4M DOMESTIC            Y    Y      L
                                                  AA FLTS 2500-5369            A/Y  D/Y    L
                                                  JL DOMESTIC TO/FROM NRT      J    J      H
                                                  //TO 16NOV14//
                                                  JL/NU DOMESTIC OTHER THAN
                                                  TO/FROM NRT //TO 16NOV14//    F    J      Y
                                                  JL/NU DOMESTIC FLIGHTS        F    J      Y
                                                  //FROM 17NOV14
                                                  QF/CX PREMIUM ECONOMY                      R
                                                  BA WORLD TRAVELLER PLUS                    T
                                                  JL PREMIUM ECONOMY                        E
                                                  ---
                                                  NOTE - FOR FLIGHTS WHERE FIRST OR BUSINESS CLASS
                                                  IS NOT OFFERED OR AVAILABLE PASSENGERS MAY TRAVEL
                                                  IN A LOWER CLASS IN THE APPLICABLE BOOKING CODE
                                                  FOR THAT LOWER CLASS.
                                                  WHERE THE APPLICABLE BOOKING CLASS FOR THE LOWER
                                                  CLASS IS NOT AVAILABLE -
                                                  PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON FIRST CLASS FARES MAY
                                                  BOOK Y CLASS
                                                  PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON BUSINESS CLASS FARES MAY
                                                  BOOK B CLASS.
                                                  THE FARE FOR THE HIGHEST CLASS USED APPLIES
                                                  WIHOUT COMPENSATION.
                                                  EXCEPTION - FOR AA SERVICES WITHIN THE USA WHERE
                                                  NO BUSINESS CLASS IS OFFERED BUSINESS CLASS
                                                  PASSENGER MAY BOOK AND TRAVEL IN FIRST CLASS
                                                  BOOKING CODE - A - SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY. THIS
                                                  PROVISION DOES NOT APPLY ON ANY FLIGHT WHERE
                                                  BUSINESS CLASS EXISTS BUT IS UNAVAILABLE FOR
                                                  BOOKING
                                                  ---
                                                  FOR US SERVICES WITHIN TC1 WHERE NO BUSINESS
                                                  CLASS IS OFFERED BUSINESS CLASS PASSENGERS MAY
                                                  BOOK AND TRAVEL IN FIRST CLASS BOOKING CODE - A -
                                                  SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY. THIS PROVISION DOES NOT
                                                  APPLY ON ANY FLIGHT WHERE BUSINESS CLASS EXISTS
                                                  BUT IS UNAVAILABLE FOR BOOKING.
                                       
MINIMUM STAY                                    NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  RETURN TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER
                                                  POINT MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 10 DAYS AFTER
                                                  DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
                                                    EXCEPTION  - FOR FIRST AND BUSINESS CLASS
                                                                TRAVEL - 5 DAYS.
                                       
MAXIMUM STAY                              TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
                                          12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.
                                       
STOPOVERS                                  2 STOPOVERS REQUIRED AND A MAXIMUM OF 4 PERMITTED ON
                                          THE PRICING UNIT.
                                                NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  A MAXIMUM OF 4 FREE PERMITTED ON THE PRICING
                                                  UNIT.
                                                  ---
                                                  ONLY ONE STOPOVER PERMITTED AT ANY ONE POINT.
                                                  ---
                                                  TWO STOPOVERS REQUIRED OUTSIDE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN.
                                                  ---
                                                  A MAXIMUM OF ONE STOPOVER IN COUNTRY OF ORIGIN.
                                                  ---
                                                  A MAXIMUM OF TWO FREE STOPOVERS PER REGION - SWP/
                                                  ASIA/NORTH AMERICA/SOUTH AMERICA.
                                                  ---
                                                  WHERE A PASSENGER DISEMBARKS AT ONE POINT AND
                                                  RE-EMBARKS AT A SUBSEQUENT POINT ENROUTE THE
                                                  POINTS COUNT AS A SINGLE STOPOVER.
                                                  WHERE THERE IS A SURFACE SECTOR BETWEEN TWO
                                                  REGIONS THIS WILL COUNT AS A STOPOVER IN EACH
                                                  OF THE TWO REGIONS HOWEVER FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE
                                                  TOTAL STOPOVERS PERMITTED THIS WILL COUNT AS ONE
                                                  STOPOVER ONLY.
                                                  ---
                                                  ADDITIONAL STOPS PERMITTED AT AN ADDITIONAL CHARGE
                                                  PER STOPOVER OF USD150.00.
                                                  - ADDITIONAL STOPOVERS NOT PERMITTRED IN
                                                    COUNTRY OF ORIGIN.
                                                  - ONLY ONE ADDITIONAL STOPOVER PERMITTED AT ANY
                                                    ONE POINT.
                                                  - ADDITIONAL STOPOVERS RESTRICTED TO TWO STOPOVERS
                                                    PER REGION.
                                                  - CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNT NOT APPLICABLE.
                                       
TRANSFERS                                  UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
                                          FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON
                                          THE FARE COMPONENT.
                                                NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  A. UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED BETWEEN
                                                    AA/BA/CX/JJ/JL/KA/LA/MH/NU/QF/QR/RJ/
                                                    UL/US/XL/4M.
                                                  B. NOT MORE THAN 3 TRANSFERS AT ANY ONE CITY
                                                    PERMITTED.
                                       
COMBINATIONS                                SINGLE/DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS NOT
                                            PERMITTED.
                                            END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH
                                            NO RESTRICTIONS.
                                       
BLACKOUT DATES                            NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
                                       
SURCHARGES                                FROM HKG TO HKG, SECTOR SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 APPLIES.
                                          FROM HKG TO HKG, SECTOR SURCHARGE OF HKD 45 APPLIES.
                                       
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL                        ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
                                       
TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS                        NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
                                       
SALES RESTRICTIONS                        EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY IS NOT PERMITTED.
                                                NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AA/AY/BA
                                                  CX/IB/JJ/JL/KA/LA/LP/MH/QF/QR/RJ/UL/US/XL/4M.
                                                  EXCEPTION - WHEN JQ OPERATED QF MARKETED IS
                                                    INCLUDED IN AN ITINERARY IB STOCK
                                                    CANNOT BE UTILISED.
                                                  ----
                                                  WHEN TRAVEL ORIGINATES IN A COUNTRY FOR WHICH A
                                                  SPECIFIC LOCAL CURRENCY FARE IS PUBLISHED AND THE
                                                  TICKET IS SOLD IN ANOTHER COUNTRY THE FARE WILL BE
                                                  THAT PUBLISHED FOR THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN
                                                  CONVERTED TO THE CURRENCY OF THE COUNTRY OF SALE
                                                  AT THE BANK SELLING RATE.  THE RESULTANT FARE MUST
                                                  NOT BE LOWER THAN THAT FROM THE COUNTRY OF SALE.
                                                  ----
                                                  RULES NOT APPLICABLE
                                                  EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY NOT PERMITTED.
                                       
PENALTIES                                  CHANGES
                                         
                                            CHANGES PERMITTED FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
                                                NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  FEES AS DESCRIBED BELOW MAY BE WAIVED IN
                                                  CASE OF CERTIFIED DEATH/ILLNESS OF THE PASSENGER
                                                  OR PASSENGERS IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER OR
                                                  ACCOMPANYING PASSENGER.
                                                  ----
                                                  LOCAL SERVICE FEES MAY APPLY ON REBOOKING/
                                                  REROUTING/ REISSUE OR REFUND.
                                                  --------------------------------------------------
                                                  CHANGES BEFORE DEPARTURE
                                                  CHANGES ARE PERMITTED PROVIDED TICKETED POINTS
                                                  REMAIN THE SAME. IF THE FIRST FLIGHT IS BEING
                                                  CHANGED AND THE FARE LEVEL HAS INCREASED SINCE
                                                  TICKET ISSUANCE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE OLD
                                                  AND NEW FARE WILL BE CHARGED. IF THE FARE LEVEL
                                                  HAS DECREASED SINCE TICKET ISSUANCE NO REFUND
                                                  WILL APPLY.
                                                  -
                                                  CHANGES TO TICKETED POINTS ARE PERMITTED AT A
                                                  CHARGE OF USD 125.00 PER TRANSACTION. IF THE FARE
                                                  LEVEL HAS INCREASED SINCE TICKET ISSUANCE THE
                                                  DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE OLD AND THE NEW FARE WILL
                                                  ALSO BE CHARGED.  IF THE FARE LEVEL HAS DECREASED
                                                  SINCE TICKET ISSUANCE NO REFUND WILL APPLY.
                                                  ---
                                                  CHANGES AFTER DEPARTURE
                                                  CHANGES ARE PERMITTED PROVIDED TICKETED POINTS
                                                  REMAIN THE SAME.
                                                  -
                                                  CHANGES TO TICKETED POINTS ARE PERMITTED AT A
                                                  CHARGE OF USD125.00 PER TRANSACTION.
                                                  -
                                                  NO SHOW REQUIRES REBOOKING AT CHARGE OF USD 125.00
                                                  -
                                                  IF THE REROUTING RESULTS IN A CHANGE TO THE
                                                  TOTAL TICKETED MILES THE TICKET SHALL BE
                                                  RECALCULATED.  TICKET MAY BE REISSUED TO ANY
                                                  APPLICABLE EXPLORER FARE VALIDATING ALL RULES OF
                                                  THE NEW FARE EXCEPT FOR RESTRICTIONS ON
                                                  RETROACTIVE USE.  REROUTING FEE APPLIES WHEN
                                                  THE RESULTING FARE IS LESS THAN OR EQUAL TO THE
                                                  ORIGINAL FARE.  NO REFUND APPLIES.  SEE UPGRADING
                                                  PROVISIONS WHEN RECALCULATION RESULTS IN A NEW
                                                  FARE BASIS AT A HIGHER VALUE.
                                         
                                          CANCELLATIONS
                                         
                                            CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW/REFUND.
                                                NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  AFTER TICKET ISSUANCE - CANCELLATION/NO SHOW
                                                  FORFEIT 10PCT OF THE TICKETED FARE FOR ECONOMY
                                                  CLASS FARES.
                                                  FORFEIT 5PCT OF THE TICKETED FARE FOR BUSINESS/
                                                  FIRST CLASS FARES.
                                                  ---
                                                  IN CASE OF REFUSAL OF OFFICIAL DOCUMENTS/ENTRY
                                                  PERMIT/VISA A FULL REFUND WILL APPLY PROVIDED
                                                  OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION FROM THE APPROVED AUTHORITY
                                                  IS PRODUCED AND ATTACHED TO THE REFUND REQUEST.
                                                  ---
                                                  FOR PARTIALLY USED TRANSPORTATION THE REFUND IF
                                                  ANY WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FARE PAID
                                                  AND THE FARE FOR THE TRANSPORTATION USED LESS THE
                                                  FEE AMOUNT SPECIFIED ABOVE.
                                                  ---
                                                  NO SHOW REQUIRES REBOOKING AT A CHARGE OF
                                                  USD125.00
                                                  ---
                                                  FOR TICKETS SOLD IN VENEZUELA ANY FULL OR PARTIAL
                                                  REFUND MUST BE PROCESSED THROUGH THE ORIGINAL
                                                  ISSUING LOCATION IN VENEZUELA.
                                                  ---
                                                  UPGRADING  -
                                                  AN ECONOMY CIRCLE PACIIFC FARE MAY BE UPGRADED TO
                                                  A HIGHER TIERED CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE OR A FIRST/
                                                  BUSINESS CLASS CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE WITHOUT FEE.
                                                  -
                                                  A BUSINESS CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE MAY BE UPGRADED TO
                                                  A HIGHER TIERED CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE OR A FIRST
                                                  CLASS CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE WITHOUT FEE.
                                                  -
                                                  A FIRST CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE MAY BE UPGRADED TO A
                                                  HIGHER TIERED CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE WITHOUT FEE.
                                                  ---
                                                  UPGRADING BY SECTOR TO BUSINESS CLASS/FIRST CLASS
                                                  IS NOT PERMITTED.
                                                  ---
                                                  AT ANY TIME THE CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE MAY
                                                  BE USED AS CREDIT TOWARDS PAYMENT OF ANY HIGHER
                                                  FARE FROM THE POINT OF ORIGIN PROVIDED THE
                                                  CONDITIONS OF THE HIGHER FARE HAVE BEEN MET.
                                                  NO FEE WILL APPLY. WHERE SUCH CREDIT IS TOWARDS
                                                  ANOTHER EXPLORER FARE RETROACTIVE USE WILL
                                                  BE PERMITTED.
                                                  REISSUED TICKETS MUST BE ENDORSED NONREF/- XXX
                                                  - XXX EQUALS CIRCLE PACIFIC FARE BASIS CODE -
                                                  AND THE ORIGINAL NON REFUNDABLE AMOUNT REMAINS
                                                  NONREFUNDABLE. IF THE UPGRADED TICKET IS
                                                  SUBSEQUENTLY CANCELLED THE ORIGINAL FEE WILL
                                                  APPLY.
                                       
HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS                    NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.
                                       
TICKET ENDORSEMENTS                        THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
                                          - VALID ON ONEWORLD ONLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
                                                NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  TICKETS MUST SHOW BY USE OF AN INSERT STICKER
                                                  THAT TRAVEL IS AT A SPECIAL FARE AND SUBJECT TO
                                                  SPECIAL CONDITIONS.
                                          AND - THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE
                                                ANNOTATED - NONREF - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.
                                                NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  TICKETS MUST SHOW BY USE OF AN INSERT STICKER
                                                  THAT TRAVEL IS AT A SPECIAL FARE AND SUBJECT TO
                                                  SPECIAL CONDITIONS.
                                       
CHILDREN DISCOUNTS                        FARE RULE
                                          CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF
                                            THE FARE.
                                                TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
                                            MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
                                              COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
                                                NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN ARE NOT ACCEPTED FOR
                                                  TRANSPORTATION USING THE CIRCLE PACIFIC
                                                  EXPLORER FARE.
                                          OR - INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 10
                                                  PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                      TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
                                                  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
                                                    COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
                                                NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  IF AN INFANT REACHES TWO YEARS OF AGE AFTER
                                                  TRAVEL HAS COMMENCED BUT BEFORE TRAVEL IS
                                                  COMPLETE - A FULL CHILD FARE TICKET MUST BE
                                                  PURCHASED FOR THE ENTIRE JOURNEY.
                                                  ---
                                                  UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN ARE NOT ACCEPTED FOR
                                                  TRANSPORTATION USING THE CIRCLE PACIFIC
                                                  EXPLORER FARE.
                                       
                                          GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
                                          CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT
                                            OF THE FARE.
                                                TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
                                            MUST BE ACCOMPANIED IN THE SAME COMPARTMENT BY ADULT
                                              PSGR 16 OR OLDER.
                                          OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100
                                                  PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                      TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
                                                  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
                                                    COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 16 OR OLDER.
                                          OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
                                                  CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                      TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS IN.
                                                  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
                                                    COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 16 OR OLDER.
                                                NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  WHEN TRAVEL INCLUDES BOTH DOMESTIC AND
                                                  INTERNATIONAL SERVICE AND DIFFERENT
                                                  INFANT FARES APPLY - THE FARE NEED NOT
                                                  BE MORE THAN THE SUM OF THE APPLICABLE
                                                  FARES FOR THE DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL
                                                  PORTIONS.
                                          OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-14 - CHARGE 100
                                                  PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN 5 6 AND 7 YEARS OF AGE WILL
                                                  ONLY BE TRANSPORTED OVER THE LINES OF AA NON-STOP
                                                  OR THROUGH PLANE SERVICE.
                                       
TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS                  NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.
                                       
AGENT DISCOUNTS                            NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.
                                       
ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS                        FARE RULE
                                                NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  APPLICABLE TO AA ONLY.
                                                  /AA/ RULE 755 SENIOR SAAVER CLUB
                                                  RULE 1810 SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNT CLUB NOT
                                                  PERMITTED.
                                       
                                          GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
                                          THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
                                          TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AA AND MAY ONLY
                                          BE SOLD BY CRS/CXR AGENT WITH DUTY CODE 00000004/
                                          00000005/00000007/00000008.
                                          FARES MAY ONLY BE SOLD BY AA AND MAY NOT BE SOLD BY
                                          TRAVEL AGENTS.
                                            OTS/PASSENGERS OCCUPYING TWO SEATS . ID REQUIRED -
                                              CHARGE 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
                                                  TICKET DESIGNATOR - SEAT.
                                                NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  APPLICATION---
                                                  FARES APPLY TO A PASSENGER PERMITTED THE
                                                  EXCLUSIVE USE OF TWO ADJACENT SEATS.
                                          SRC/SENIOR CITIZEN PSGR 65 OR OLDER. ID REQUIRED
                                            - NO DISCOUNT.
                                                NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  RULE 1810 - SENIOR CITIZEN DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY
                                       
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS                  NO PROVISIONS APPLY.
                                       
FARE BY RULE                              NOT APPLICABLE.
                                       
GROUPS                                          NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
                                                  GROUP TRAVEL USING THESE FARES IS PERMITTED FOR
                                                  BUSINESS CLASS AND ECONOMY CLASS TRAVEL ONLY.
                                                        A/ ELIGIBILITY- NO REQUIREMENTS
                                                        B/ MINIMUM GROUP SIZE-
                                                            ECONOMY CLASS - 10 PASSENGERS
                                                            NOTE - MAXIMUM GROUP SIZE 30 PASSSENGERS
                                                            BUSINESS CLASS - 10 PASSENGERS
                                                            NOTE - MAXIMUM GROUP SIZE 15 PASSENGERS
                                                                    ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL- GROUP
                                                                    REQUIRED TO TRAVEL TOGETHER FOR
                                                                    THE ENTIRE ITINERARY.
                                                        D/ DOCUMENTATION- NO REQUIREMENTS-
                                                        E/ NAME CHANGES AND ADDITIONS- NAME CHANGES
                                                            AND ADDITIONS ARE NOT PERMITTED AFTER
                                                            THE TICKETING DEADLINE.
                                                          F/ TICKETING CARRIERS GROUP POLICY SHALL
                                                            APPLY
                                                  BOOKING CODES
                                                                                  BUSINESS  ECONOMY
                                                  AA/BA/CX/JL/KA/LA/MH/NU/
                                                  QF/QR/RJ/UL/US/XL/4M                I        G
                                                  --
                                                  JJ                                  D        N
                                       
TOURS                                      NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
                                       
VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY                      NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
                                       
DEPOSITS                                  NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
                                       
VOLUNTARY CHANGES                          IN THE EVENT OF CHANGES TO TICKETED FLIGHTS
                                          BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
                                          CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
                                          BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
                                          CHARGE USD 125.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL FARE
                                          COMPONENTS AND
                                            REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
                                            PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                            1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
                                            2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
                                            MUST BE DOMESTIC
                                            3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
                                            4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
                                            5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
                                            DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                            OR -
                                            REPRICE
                                            A. BEFORE JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE FARES IN EFFECT
                                            TODAY
                                            B. AFTER JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE HISTORICAL FARES
                                            BASED ON TRAVEL COMMENCEMENT
                                            PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                            1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
                                            MUST BE DOMESTIC
                                            2. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
                                            3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO
                                            DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                          WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
                                          FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
                                          ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
                                          ENDORSEMENTS.
                                          OR -
                                          AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
                                          CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
                                          BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES
                                          CHARGE USD 125.00 OR HIGHEST FEE OF ALL FARE COMPONENTS
                                          AND
                                            REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
                                            PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                            1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
                                            2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
                                            MUST BE DOMESTIC
                                            3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
                                            4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
                                            5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
                                            DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                          WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
                                          FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
                                          ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
                                          ENDORSEMENTS.
                                          OR -
                                          BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
                                          IN THE CASE OF DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER -
                                          CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
                                          BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE HIGHEST FEE
                                          OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
                                            REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
                                            PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                            1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
                                            2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
                                            MUST BE DOMESTIC
                                            3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
                                            4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
                                            5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
                                            DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                            OR -
                                            REPRICE
                                            A. BEFORE JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE FARES IN EFFECT
                                            TODAY
                                            B. AFTER JOURNEY DEPARTURE USE HISTORICAL FARES
                                            BASED ON TRAVEL COMMENCEMENT
                                            PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                            1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
                                            MUST BE DOMESTIC
                                            2. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
                                            3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM REISSUE DATE TO
                                            DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                          WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
                                          FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
                                          ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
                                          ENDORSEMENTS.
                                          OR -
                                          AFTER DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
                                          IN THE CASE OF DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER -
                                          CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
                                          BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE HIGHEST FEE
                                          OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
                                            REPRICE USING FARES IN EFFECT WHEN TKT WAS ISSUED
                                            PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                            1. NO CHANGE TO 1ST FLIGHT COUPON
                                            2. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
                                            MUST BE DOMESTIC
                                            3. ANY CARRIER FARES ARE USED
                                            4. ALL RULE AND BOOKING CODE PROVISIONS ARE MET
                                            5. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
                                            DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                          WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
                                          FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
                                          ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
                                          ENDORSEMENTS.
                                          OR -
                                          BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY AND WITHIN TICKET VALIDITY
                                          CERTAIN DOMESTIC REISSUE PROVISIONS MAY BE OVERRIDDEN
                                          BY THOSE OF AA INTERNATIONAL FARES CHARGE HIGHEST FEE
                                          OF ALL CHANGED FARE COMPONENTS
                                            REPRICE USING CURRENT FARES - ONLY BOOKING CODE
                                            CHANGES PERMITTED
                                            PROVIDED ALL OF THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET-
                                            1. WHEN NO INTL COUPONS REMAIN - ALL NEW TRAVEL
                                            MUST BE DOMESTIC
                                            2. AA FARES ARE USED
                                            3. ADV RES IS MEASURED FROM ORIGINAL TKT DATE TO
                                            DEPARTURE OF PRICING UNIT
                                            4. TKT REISSUE RESTRICTED TO AA
                                          WHEN CHANGE RESULTS IN LOWER FARE SUBTRACT RESIDUAL
                                          FROM THE PENALTY THEN ADD-COLLECT/REFUND
                                          ENDORSEMENT BOX - HIGHER NON-REF AMT AND NEW
                                          ENDORSEMENTS.
                                        .
                                       
VOLUNTARY REFUNDS                          NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.
                                       
NEGOTIATED FARES                          NOT APPLICABLE.
                                       
INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION                NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE
                                        .


beardoc Jan 5, 2015 6:55 am

I tried to find whether this has been covered before, but I don't think it has.

It concerns a number of AA/US flights that are direct from outside US to somewhere in the US via an international entry point.

I've tried to see if it will validate with the flights onboard with the RTW tool, but unfortunately the RTW tool finds these segments, but won't find others in my itinerary, so I can't build the itinerary online.

I'll give an example: AA69. It's MAD-MIA-SFO, but there's an aircraft change and there is a change of configuration as well

AA 69 0 MAD-MIA
J7 R7 D7 I7 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 V7 G7 S7 N7 Q7 O7 (so Business/Economy configuration on a 777-200)

AA 69 MIA-SFO
F3 A2 P2 Y7 B7 H7 K7 M7 L7 W7 V7 G7 S7 N7 Q0 O0 (so First/Economy configuration on a 737-800)

When you book it using the online tool, it allows MAD-SFO on AA69 with Booking Class D for the the entire journey although there is no Business on the MIA-SFO run.

If I try booking the same in reverse (AA 68 SFO-MIA-MAD), the online tool books it, but insists that the flight be booked into L because "there is no Business Class available".

Since I'm having problems with this itinerary, I want to just call AA. But will AA regard AA69 as one international sector with one flight number on the same day or will they insist that it's two sectors and therefore has to be booked with an intercontinental segment and then a domestic segment too?

Or is this something that falls between the rules?

Calchas Jan 5, 2015 8:05 am


Originally Posted by beardoc (Post 24103978)
I'll give an example: AA69. It's MAD-MIA-SFO, but there's an aircraft change and there is a change of configuration as well

....

Since I'm having problems with this itinerary, I want to just call AA. But will AA regard AA69 as one international sector with one flight number on the same day or will they insist that it's two sectors and therefore has to be booked with an intercontinental segment and then a domestic segment too?

It's a "direct flight" between MAD and SFO. It counts as one segment in D class. If you want you can split it.

The fact that there is a stop (and an equipment change) should not be of any importance, unless it violates the transcontinental rule (I don't think that applies but need to check the specific wording).

I don't know why the tool has a problem with the return.

beardoc Jan 5, 2015 4:13 pm


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 24104310)
It's a "direct flight" between MAD and SFO. It counts as one segment in D class. If you want you can split it.

The fact that there is a stop (and an equipment change) should not be of any importance, unless it violates the transcontinental rule (I don't think that applies but need to check the specific wording).

I don't know why the tool has a problem with the return.

In the past I've had problems with these routes - especially QF108 JFK-LAX-SYD - the online tool books it as an intercontinental leg, but when I looked to get a travel agent to do the same, they could not get around it being split into QF108 JFK-LAX and QF108 LAX-SYD, which thereby triggers the US transcon rule as I already had a transcon in my itinerary. In the end I just booked it via the booking tool to get around the agent.

I'm just hoping I don't run into the same thing, especially since I can't get the oneworld booking tool to pick up my other US domestic flights. It just won't show them.

Calchas Jan 6, 2015 2:42 am


Originally Posted by beardoc (Post 24107494)
In the past I've had problems with these routes - especially QF108 JFK-LAX-SYD - the online tool books it as an intercontinental leg, but when I looked to get a travel agent to do the same, they could not get around it being split into QF108 JFK-LAX and QF108 LAX-SYD, which thereby triggers the US transcon rule as I already had a transcon in my itinerary. In the end I just booked it via the booking tool to get around the agent.

I'm just hoping I don't run into the same thing, especially since I can't get the oneworld booking tool to pick up my other US domestic flights. It just won't show them.

What does that mean, the agent could not get around it—these itineraries are manually priced aren't they?

Knid Jan 7, 2015 12:12 am

Hi There,

Is changing a surface segment to a flight considered a change to the ticketed points?

Thanks

Byrneand Jan 13, 2015 9:46 am

Hey guys,

Apologies if this is covered elsewhere - I tried using the search function to no avail. Does anyone have a route on a one world round the world ticket that takes in French Polynesia (Papeete)?

Thanks!

Calchas Jan 13, 2015 9:53 am


Originally Posted by Byrneand (Post 24157494)
Hey guys,

Apologies if this is covered elsewhere - I tried using the search function to no avail. Does anyone have a route on a one world round the world ticket that takes in French Polynesia (Papeete)?

Thanks!

A quick Google search suggests that PPT is served by oneworld carrier LA from SCL, so it should not be difficult to construct a route including it.

You can use http://rtw.oneworld.com to have a go at building your itinerary. The tool does not always price correctly and doesn't show every allowed combination.

Byrneand Jan 13, 2015 9:58 am


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 24157540)
A quick Google search suggests that PPT is served by oneworld carrier LA from SCL, so it should not be difficult to construct a route including it.

Thanks - yep - I'd seen the exit route out via Easter Island/Chile but had been struggling with a one world in from Australia/New Zealand/Asia direction.

Anyone done this?

Calchas Jan 13, 2015 10:01 am


Originally Posted by Byrneand (Post 24157574)
Thanks - yep - I'd seen the exit route out via Easter Island/Chile but had been struggling with a one world in from Australia/New Zealand/Asia direction.

Anyone done this?

The only way on a oneworld ticket is to go to ...-SCL-PPT-SCL-.... If that breaks a rule, you will have to leave Australia-PPT as a surface sector and book your own travel there.

Gardyloo Jan 13, 2015 10:50 am


Originally Posted by Byrneand (Post 24157494)
Hey guys,

Apologies if this is covered elsewhere - I tried using the search function to no avail. Does anyone have a route on a one world round the world ticket that takes in French Polynesia (Papeete)?

Thanks!

The South Pacific islands are one of several major "gaps" in Oneworld coverage.

You can use the Global Explorer to visit Tahiti (or Fiji for that matter) as the GlobEx allows use of Qantas codeshares on Air Tahiti metal. The Oneworld Explorer doesn't. You can use the OWE to get from Tahiti to South America on Lan's service, but you can't do a return SCL-PPT-SCL trip with the OWE because it would involve backtracking between South America and the Southwest Pacific.

So using the OWE you'd have to fly from AKL or SYD on your own nickel, then pick up the OWE in PPT for onward travel to South America.

(With the Global Explorer you could continue from PPT to North America and wouldn't need to route via South America.)


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