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Dr. HFH Mar 22, 2015 6:03 am

OK, I'm looking at rule 4(e)3, §3.2.2: Africa-Middle East-RTW-Middle East-Africa.

One of the visits to Middle East must be a transfer without stopover between Africa and the previous/next continent.
So would this work? JNB-xDOH-BKK-...-LHR-DOH-CDG-DOH-JNB.

Or this? JNB-xDOH-BKK-...-LHR-DOH-LHR-DOH-JNB.

Kiwi Flyer Mar 22, 2015 11:20 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 24546125)
OK, I'm looking at rule 4(e)3, §3.2.2: Africa-Middle East-RTW-Middle East-Africa.So would this work? JNB-xDOH-BKK-...-LHR-DOH-CDG-DOH-JNB.

Maybe.


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 24546125)
Or this? JNB-xDOH-BKK-...-LHR-DOH-LHR-DOH-JNB.

Not valid. Fails two rules (at least). Cannot fly the same route more than once and also has more than two long intra-Europe flights to/from UK.

Dr. HFH Mar 22, 2015 11:46 am


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 24547233)
Not valid. Fails two rules (at least). Cannot fly the same route more than once and also has more than two long intra-Europe flights to/from UK.

So I can avoid all these limitations by making the trip JNB-HKG-...-LAX-LHR-DOH-CDG-DOH-LHR-JNB. That should work, right?

And, of course, with the 2015 Promotion, I can get an extra 12K AA miles by splitting LAX-LHR into LAX(AA)-JFK(AA codeshare op by BA)-LHR. But then, of course, I lose the 380 on that route, not to mention the longer flight. I can control my jetlag much better on longer flights, -- they're important to me for keeping sane and healthy.

Kiwi Flyer Mar 22, 2015 12:27 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 24547347)
So I can avoid all these limitations by making the trip JNB-HKG-...-LAX-LHR-DOH-CDG-DOH-LHR-JNB. That should work, right?

yes

skunker Mar 30, 2015 2:26 pm

I want to draw people's attention to this post: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24567034-post608.html

While it is noted that Sabre and Skyteam worked to develop the autopricing, the Sabre RTW/CT Quick Reference seems to apply to all alliances.

OVERVIEW
Airline Tariff Publishing Company (ATPCO) has enhanced their automated rules and routings offerings, specifically to support Round-the-World (RTW)/Circle Trip (CT) pricing. The Sabre system has revised the pricing system logic to support guaranteed automated pricing of these fares.

Carrier Alliance codes are new and currently limited to being used with RTW/CT rules and routings. These are:
 *O (oneworld)
 *S (SkyTeam)
 *A (Star Alliance)
If TAs can now autoprice xONEx and CTs that would make life much easier. I need to play around with it tonight and see what I can do.

EDIT: I looks like it doesn't autoprice yet for *A or oneworld, but the functionality is there. I read another press release that stated they were working with the other alliances to add it to Sabre.

flyjackjack May 6, 2015 8:51 pm

AAdvantage Qualifying Miles with Oneworld Explorer RTW
 
I read the wiki and searched the thread as well as read http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/6012968-post3.html. I'm still not 100% sure that the flights in my itinerary will count towards status. I think so, but can someone confirm?
Here is my itinerary all in economy (L):
AA DFW-LHR
BA LHR-BLR
Sri Lankan Airlines BLR-CMB-SIN
CX SIN-HKG
AA HKG-DFW

The link mentioned above (from 2005) doesn't list Sri Lankan Airlines. The wiki doesn't mention Sri Lankan Airlines either. I have an option to fly on Malaysian Airlines or Qatar Air instead, but with a less optimal time/connections.

I want (and need) the miles to count towards my AA status. Will it?

pandaperth May 6, 2015 9:18 pm


Originally Posted by flyjackjack (Post 24778462)
I read the wiki and searched the thread as well as read http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/6012968-post3.html. I'm still not 100% sure that the flights in my itinerary will count towards status. I think so, but can someone confirm?
Here is my itinerary all in economy (L):
AA DFW-LHR
BA LHR-BLR
Sri Lankan Airlines BLR-CMB-SIN
CX SIN-HKG
AA HKG-DFW

The link mentioned above (from 2005) doesn't list Sri Lankan Airlines. The wiki doesn't mention Sri Lankan Airlines either. I have an option to fly on Malaysian Airlines or Qatar Air instead, but with a less optimal time/connections.

I want (and need) the miles to count towards my AA status. Will it?

You need to look at the AA earning page for each airline - here https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/e...lines/main.jsp

AA and BA earn at 100%
UL earns only 75% miles and half that for Elite Qualifying Points
CX earns nothing

And, by the way, are you seriously considering a RTW with only SIX (of the allowed 16) flights!!!

wandering_fred May 7, 2015 7:01 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 24778569)
You need to look at the AA earning page for each airline - here https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/e...lines/main.jsp

AA and BA earn at 100%
UL earns only 75% miles and half that for Elite Qualifying Points
CX earns nothing

And, by the way, are you seriously considering a RTW with only SIX (of the allowed 16) flights!!!

I hope not those ten segments are not being forgotten ...

OTOH SIN-HKG is almost short enough to ignore, though AA has code shares on 4 of the current 7 flights a day. Getting an AA code share SIN-NRT is also an option and then the AA flight into the USA.

If you have the time CMB-NRT-SIN-HKG would be an interesting side trip.

Happy wandering

Fred

flyjackjack May 18, 2015 10:41 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 24778569)
You need to look at the AA earning page for each airline - here https://www.aa.com/i18n/AAdvantage/e...lines/main.jsp

AA and BA earn at 100%
UL earns only 75% miles and half that for Elite Qualifying Points
CX earns nothing

And, by the way, are you seriously considering a RTW with only SIX (of the allowed 16) flights!!!

Yes, because it is a business trip and I only need to hit those cities. I figured it would be cooler to fly around the world than there and back.

Calchas May 18, 2015 11:23 am

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jrobin May 21, 2015 8:20 am


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 24527473)
... CAI is served by QR and RJ as well. The QR option doesn't appear if you try to start your journey at CAI because QR aren't willing to take ticketing responsibility.

So if I start an LONE4 in CAI and my next stop is SIN, I gather I must either
-go with BA CAI-LHR-SIN
-go RJ/QR CAI-AMM-DOH-SIN
as the direct flight CAI-DOH is not available because QR does not want to do ticketing?

Are costs much different choosing BA or RJ?

Is there any way to get QR to ticket an LONE4? If so, would it affect the itinerary cost?

Can AA ticket an itinerary starting in CAI if not leaving on CAI on AA? If so, could that reduce the cost?

Thanks

Calchas May 21, 2015 11:19 am


Originally Posted by jrobin (Post 24849155)
So if I start an LONE4 in CAI and my next stop is SIN, I gather I must either
-go with BA CAI-LHR-SIN
-go RJ/QR CAI-AMM-DOH-SIN
as the direct flight CAI-DOH is not available because QR does not want to do ticketing?

Are costs much different choosing BA or RJ?

Is there any way to get QR to ticket an LONE4? If so, would it affect the itinerary cost?

Can AA ticket an itinerary starting in CAI if not leaving on CAI on AA? If so, could that reduce the cost?

Thanks

You can do CAI-DOH-... (and obviously this is the best option), but QR refuse to ticket it. Instead, you will need to ticket with another oneworld carrier such as BA or AA.

The reason the online tool does not work, is because it (for no good reason) decides that the first flight will be the ticketing carrier.

So you will need to speak to a real airline or travel agent to sort this out.

There is some allusion that the fuel surcharges may be calculated different between the carriers, but aside from rumours I have not seen any hard evidence that any particular carrier is always the most expensive ticketing carrier. Note that the fare must be bought from the ticketing desk inside the country for the lower fare to apply.

However, apparently BA ignores that requirement and will ticket it from their office in Newcastle, England. More details are upthread somewhere.

Wozza2404 May 29, 2015 9:17 am

Is CAI still the best starting point for these DONE fares or is there another option these days?

Calchas May 29, 2015 10:45 am


Originally Posted by Wozza2404 (Post 24887135)
Is CAI still the best starting point for these DONE fares or is there another option these days?

JNB is good, as is TYO

Depends how far you want to position.

pandaperth May 30, 2015 3:41 am


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 24887661)
JNB is good, as is TYO

Depends how far you want to position.

Also WDH and MPM


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