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Originally Posted by anabolism
(Post 30748819)
You shouldn't have to pay the $125 USD fee unless you are changing any of the airports that have been ticketed (regardless of being a stop versus a connection).
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Here is a data point. For my DONEx ticket issued by CX, I flew only the first flight (into HKG) for a less than 24 hour transit. There at the CX Wing F lounge, I requested for change of dates only, affecting all remaining 15 segments. CX agent did it while I was relaxing in the lounge. It took about 50 minutes. No charge.
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Originally Posted by scotbus7
(Post 30746861)
It was my understanding that changes to the date/time of flights on the itinerary could be made at no charge, with the USD125 change fee only being applied if changing any of the actual stops on the ticket (i.e. re-routing
Originally Posted by anabolism
(Post 30748819)
You shouldn't have to pay the $125 USD fee unless you are changing any of the airports that have been ticketed (regardless of being a stop versus a connection).
Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 30751290)
To clarify, if you are changing an airport between a transit (X) and a stopover (O), that is clearly a re-routing and the 125USD fee kicks in.
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Originally Posted by anabolism
(Post 30753219)
Just for clarification, I added the parenthetical note "(regardless of being a stop versus a connection)" only because [MENTION=10043362]scotbus7[/MENTION] wrote "changing any of the actual stops" and I wanted to clarify that changing the ticketed points triggers the charge, even if a point being changed is a connection and not a stop. As for changing an airport from a stop to a connection or vice versa, I don't personally know if it is supposed to trigger the re-route or not and I would appreciate if someone could point me to an authoritative source for the definition of "ticketed points." I see the logic in what [MENTION=77686]ernestnywang[/MENTION] writes, because the fare calculation always specifies X vs O so it would make sense that changing this is a reroute, but since I don't know the precise definition of "ticketed points" I am not sure. I've had airline agents make such changes without charging me the $125 fee, but that could have just been agent error. When making RTW bookings with dummy dates that I intent to change, I always make sure that any place I want to stop has more than 24 hours between flights, and any place I want to connect has under 24 hours, because I want to be safe.
If you are changing from O to X, at the airline's / agent's discretion, it may be possible to leave it as an O even though it is under 24 hours. This is doable. |
Due to the low base fare on my RTW fare, I ticket as many stops as possible due to not having to deal with married sector logic when I do date change.
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 30754615)
If you are changing from X to O, in the vast majority of cases additional taxes need to be collected, and the only way to do this is to re-issue. If an agent does not charge you the additional tax you owe, that's a clear error.
If you are changing from O to X, at the airline's / agent's discretion, it may be possible to leave it as an O even though it is under 24 hours. This is doable. |
In my experience, a change from a transit to a stopover requires the ticket to be reissued (which will result in the fee). As others have noted, on a very rare occasion I have had an airline not charge the reissue fee.
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Originally Posted by pbd456
(Post 30754859)
Due to the low base fare on my RTW fare, I ticket as many stops as possible due to not having to deal with married sector logic when I do date change.
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Originally Posted by anabolism
(Post 30755740)
Taxes have always been recalculated when I have made changes between X and O, or changing carriers. It's just the $125 fee that I was addressing.
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Originally Posted by jerry a. laska
(Post 30755872)
In my experience, a change from a transit to a stopover requires the ticket to be reissued (which will result in the fee). As others have noted, on a very rare occasion I have had an airline not charge the reissue fee.
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 30756673)
Married segment kicks in as long as the time between flights is less than 24 hours. It is something on the reservation end and has nothing to do with whether the ticket says O or X.
That's certainly the way I always used to do it, but my experience is rather dated now (this whole "married segment" thing is a rather recent phenomenon) |
Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 30756684)
I suppose it is possible to have a recalculation of taxes, and thus a mandotory re-issue, without a change in routing, so it is not consiered a re-routing.
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Originally Posted by christep
(Post 30756751)
That way once they start the ticket and then need to adjust individual flights there is never a need to reissue the ticket even if what was originally ticketed as a stopover ends being a transit (they just forgo any tax refund, but save the reissue fee), and they hope that just rebooking a segment subsequently doesn't trigger married-segment lunacy.
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Originally Posted by anabolism
(Post 30757057)
I used sloppy wording, sorry. By "taxes" I meant "taxes and airline-imposed fees (e.g., YR/YQ)". Changing the marketing carrier on a flight can change the airline-imposed fees. Some airlines like to recalculate the taxes for any change (perhaps in case the taxes changed?) which because of exchange rate fluctuations can be a different amount than when last ticketed.
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 30757819)
I understood what you mean; YR/YQ is the only thing that could be different. There are some very rare occasions where an airport's tax is raised and requires airline to collect the new amount if the ticket is ever reissued, but other than that, if no ticketed points and O/X are changed, taxes other than YR/YQ should not be any different.
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