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Dr. HFH Nov 29, 2018 5:52 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 30481698)
I haven't seen that, myself. You mean a set of flights shows D available but when part of an RTW and with more than 24 hours before and after, D is not available?

Yes, that has happened to me on the next two RTWs that I have ticketed. My agent solved the problem by changing to the QF codeshare.

anabolism Nov 29, 2018 5:54 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 30481712)
Yes, that has happened to me on the next two RTWs that I have ticketed. My agent solved the problem by changing to the QF codeshare.

Would you mind letting us know which flights this happened on? And, just for clarity, the affected flights had more than 24 hours before and after the affected set? And EF showed D inventory available with the appropriate point of sale?

scubadu Nov 29, 2018 6:01 pm

I really can't help but wonder why this product must be so exceedingly complicated.

Every once in awhile I consider pursuing an RTW ticket. I come to this forum, read several threads and then just leave with a dull, throbbing headache... :(

Regards

anabolism Nov 29, 2018 6:07 pm


Originally Posted by scubadu (Post 30481744)
I really can't help but wonder why this product must be so exceedingly complicated.

Every once in awhile I consider pursuing an RTW ticket. I come to this forum, read several threads and then just leave with a dull, throbbing headache... :(

Keep in mind that this forum is comprised of people trying to maximize the benefit of the RTW product, no matter how much time and effort are required. If you just want to enjoy a few flights to multiple continents, the RTW product is not too complicated at all.

scubadu Nov 29, 2018 6:11 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 30481765)
Keep in mind that this forum is comprised of people trying to maximize the benefit of the RTW product, no matter how much time and effort are required. If you just want to enjoy a few flights to multiple continents, the RTW product is not too complicated at all.

Oh, I too would kinda want to maximize the benefit for sure, that would be part of the motivation. However, every time I wade through these threads it just makes my head want to explode and I run off with my tail between my legs, back to the simple stuff.

Regards

Dr. HFH Nov 29, 2018 8:31 pm


Originally Posted by scubadu (Post 30481744)
Every once in awhile I consider pursuing an RTW ticket. I come to this forum, read several threads and then just leave with a dull, throbbing headache... :(Regards

If you can stick it out, you'll find that you can save thousands of dollars per ticket, depending on how and where you travel. You'll also find those who know about these fares happy to assist. And, trust me, you will need assistance with your first one, at least, as you've already discovered.

pandaperth Nov 29, 2018 9:40 pm


Originally Posted by scubadu (Post 30481776)
Oh, I too would kinda want to maximize the benefit for sure, that would be part of the motivation. However, every time I wade through these threads it just makes my head want to explode and I run off with my tail between my legs, back to the simple stuff.

Regards


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 30482080)
If you can stick it out, you'll find that you can save thousands of dollars per ticket, depending on how and where you travel. You'll also find those who know about these fares happy to assist. And, trust me, you will need assistance with your first one, at least, as you've already discovered.

scubadu -feel fee to post your suggested itinerary and we "experts" will chime in with suggestions and assistance. As Dr HFH said, we all needed assistance the first time around

pbd456 Nov 29, 2018 10:12 pm


Originally Posted by scubadu (Post 30481776)
Oh, I too would kinda want to maximize the benefit for sure, that would be part of the motivation. However, every time I wade through these threads it just makes my head want to explode and I run off with my tail between my legs, back to the simple stuff.

Regards

Even you do a simple mileage run, one still need to maximize.

Example.
On this fare.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mile...25-cpm-53.html

i rebooked my ticket twice and ended up flying the following.

TPE - NRT (stop) - LAX - BZE (stop) - DFW - RSW (stop) [June 2016]
RSW - DFW - LAX [Feb 17] 2 days in LAX
LAX - JFK [ Feb 17] <-President's day weekend
JFK - NRT [march 17]
HND - ITM [June 17]
KIX - TPE ( didnt fly this sector)

In some way, xONEx is way easier since there are so much research has been done on it already.

Leaping_Deere Nov 30, 2018 2:30 am


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 30480841)
If the separate segments you want are on AA, BA might not be able to price it. Therefore, you might want to book your RTW with AA instead.

I want two separate flights because I have a meeting in Charlotte before flying onto SDF so I need a 9-10 hour layover to allow for travel and meeting.

I did try and move the first flight to AA rather than BA (first flight of ticket is LHR-YYZ) but it still came up with same results.

Leaping_Deere Nov 30, 2018 2:35 am


Originally Posted by scubadu (Post 30481776)
Oh, I too would kinda want to maximize the benefit for sure, that would be part of the motivation. However, every time I wade through these threads it just makes my head want to explode and I run off with my tail between my legs, back to the simple stuff.

Regards

I wouldn't let people like myself put you off. once you learn how to use the tool it's actually pretty good.

All you are seeing on this forum is the complete novice newbies or someone like me with a more complex itinerary and this forum is a great resource.

This ticket has saved me alot of money.

Dr. HFH Nov 30, 2018 4:01 am


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 30481723)
Would you mind letting us know which flights this happened on? And, just for clarity, the affected flights had more than 24 hours before and after the affected set? And EF showed D inventory available with the appropriate point of sale?

Sure, -- sorry for the delay in replying. It happened to me twice, both transcons. One LAX-BOS and one LAX-JFK. Although D (to BOS) and A (to JFK) showed available on EF, and the agent was also able to see that they were available, he was still unable to book them. In both cases, he circumvented the problem by booking them as QF codeshares.

headinclouds Nov 30, 2018 8:05 am


Originally Posted by skunker (Post 30481436)
We need to know more about their routing. In dealing with my exSEZ rerouting I've seen some crazy things with availability. EF showing D was there, but when put into a full itinerary it would come back as D0.


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 30481698)
I haven't seen that, myself. You mean a set of flights shows D available but when part of an RTW and with more than 24 hours before and after, D is not available?


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 30482936)
Sure, -- sorry for the delay in replying. It happened to me twice, both transcons. One LAX-BOS and one LAX-JFK. Although D (to BOS) and A (to JFK) showed available on EF, and the agent was also able to see that they were available, he was still unable to book them. In both cases, he circumvented the problem by booking them as QF codeshares.

Does this mean that any checking on EF must have SEZ set as POS? How does one get a QF codeshare in the USA unless you are arriving into LAX on QF?
ETA: AA will be using 321T planes on 2 dailys LAX-BOS 2-Apr-2019 so A class (maybe) for those with AONEx RTW's.

Dr. HFH Nov 30, 2018 8:39 am


Originally Posted by headinclouds (Post 30483554)
Does this mean that any checking on EF must have SEZ set as POS?

Aaaaaaaaaaand here's where we start the complications! The answer is that it depends on what you're checking for. More importantly, however, there's no longer any point in buying at SEZ. The ex-SEZ fare was an anomaly which no longer exists.


Originally Posted by headinclouds (Post 30483554)
How does one get a QF codeshare in the USA unless you are arriving into LAX on QF?

If your travel agent is a SABRE agent, SABRE will give it to him/her if s/he requests it and it's available. I expect that it has to be done by direct sell, not by selling off an availability display. Your agent will understand that last sentence.

skunker Nov 30, 2018 12:33 pm


Originally Posted by Leaping_Deere (Post 30482771)
I want two separate flights because I have a meeting in Charlotte before flying onto SDF so I need a 9-10 hour layover to allow for travel and meeting.

I did try and move the first flight to AA rather than BA (first flight of ticket is LHR-YYZ) but it still came up with same results.

So, you plan to fly LHR-YYZ on 2/13, spend the night there, fly to CLT on 2/14, spend the day, and then continue on to SDF?

skunker Nov 30, 2018 12:38 pm


Originally Posted by headinclouds (Post 30483554)
Does this mean that any checking on EF must have SEZ set as POS? How does one get a QF codeshare in the USA unless you are arriving into LAX on QF?
ETA: AA will be using 321T planes on 2 dailys LAX-BOS 2-Apr-2019 so A class (maybe) for those with AONEx RTW's.

In my case I was trying to use up a lot of segments without stop. AA, CX and QF all seemed to have problems with this. Even if I put in 24 hour stopovers to break it up Sabre was returning D0 when EF was showing availability. For the domestic legs on AA you can drop one segment to L and the other legs would open up. I ended up rerouting the Asia legs and avoided QF altogether to get it to work.


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