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Calchas Sep 11, 2018 4:03 pm
Originally Posted by trouble_ (Post 30193325)
Is it possible to get a reservation in R/L/B one a DONEx fare? I thought it all had to be in D?
If D is not available on a CX flight then you may book R, L, or B (in that order of preference).

Code:
>$LB5                                                         
005 HKGHKG 11SEP18 CX GBP 8754.00 DONE4    STAY---/12MBK-D   
FARE CLS  EXPLANATION                            BOOK CODES   
--------  ----------------------                ----------   
DONE4    BUSINESS CLASS AROUND THE WORLD FARES    D         
DONE4    APPLIES FOR ROUND TRIP FARES                       
                                                             
 BOOKING CODE EXCEPTIONS                                     
  VIA CX  D    REQUIRED      WHEN AVAILABLE  D- FARES       
  VIA CX  R    REQUIRED      WHEN AVAILABLE  D- FARES       
  VIA CX  L    REQUIRED      WHEN AVAILABLE  D- FARES       
  VIA CX  B    REQUIRED      D- FARES
(For clarity I removed the suggestion that you obtain a confirmed reservation in R/L/B on the same plane because you already had an alternative route.)

That's what the rule sheet PDF seems to claim.
The rule sheet is only a summary of the true rules which are in the relevant IATA resolutions, in the tariffs, in the fares, and in the associated data tables.

trouble_ Sep 12, 2018 11:03 am
Following up: they would not let me hold space on two aircraft (confirmed seats in D on QF via SYD and confirmed seats in R on CX). They were also pretty sure CX wouldn't let me waitlist for D but since I didn't want to risk flying economy class, I didn't explore that option further.

EF still shows D9 on the CX flight with POS HK but the BA agent couldn't see it. He suspects CX is happy to sell D themselves but not letting BA sell it as part of DONEx fares.

I'll call back in a few days/weeks to see if any D becomes available. Worst case, flying via SYD isn't that terrible.

If anyone has any tips on getting BA to see D inventory on CX, I'm happy to try. :)

pbd456 Sep 16, 2018 3:27 pm
Did you try calling BA HKG office?

When I had CX ticket, I had confirmed on one day and waitlist on another day. not experience on BA ticket.

Calchas Sep 16, 2018 5:23 pm
Originally Posted by trouble_ (Post 30196340)
Following up: they would not let me hold space on two aircraft (confirmed seats in D on QF via SYD and confirmed seats in R on CX).
I meant, confirmed on one flight and waitlisted on the other; not confirmed on both. Holding inventory speculatively is generally frowned upon.

They were also pretty sure CX wouldn't let me waitlist for D
The agent didn't even attempt to waitlist you in D? :confused:

pbd456 Sep 16, 2018 7:01 pm
Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 30210993)
I meant, confirmed on one flight and waitlisted on the other; not confirmed on both. Holding inventory speculatively is generally frowned upon.


The agent didn't even attempt to waitlist you in D? :confused:
I was confirmed on Jan 5, and waitlisted on Jan 3 and Jan 4 on CX flight on a CX ticket.

pbd456 Sep 17, 2018 1:02 pm
Let say I have ticketed HKG NRT CMB NRT HKG.

The fare construction says HKG TYO CMB TYO HKG.

AFter flying the first few sectors, do u think there is a chance to do a date change to HKG HND, NRT CMB, HND HKG via some helpful agent?

Dr. HFH Sep 17, 2018 4:28 pm
Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 30213920)
Let say I have ticketed HKG NRT CMB NRT HKG.

The fare construction says HKG TYO CMB TYO HKG.

AFter flying the first few sectors, do u think there is a chance to do a date change to HKG HND, NRT CMB, HND HKG via some helpful agent?
No. 1) It's not merely a date change. 2) You've gone from four sectors to five. 3) There is no CMB-HND service, at least on One World.

IAANN Sep 17, 2018 4:29 pm
Hi Guys. Might be a stupid question but can we fare a DONEx ticket on ITA?
I'm curious to see if anyone done any from EX-EU or LHR recently and for how much?
Thanks!

pbd456 Sep 17, 2018 7:05 pm
Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 30214673)
No. 1) It's not merely a date change. 2) You've gone from four sectors to five. 3) There is no CMB-HND service, at least on One World.
​​​​​​

This is why I need a helpful (or ignorant agent.)

when my sister re-routed ex-JNB, they did let her do YYZ LGA, JFK DFW instead of YYZ JFK DFW

anabolism Sep 17, 2018 7:58 pm
Originally Posted by IAANN (Post 30214679)
Hi Guys. Might be a stupid question but can we fare a DONEx ticket on ITA?
I'm curious to see if anyone done any from EX-EU or LHR recently and for how much?
Thanks!
ITA can't price an RTW, but you can get the base fare from EF, and then use ITA to get an estimate of taxes and fees for various routes.

Ex-LHR base prices:
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.comFare Information Search:

Departing LHR on 09/17/18 for LHR
Flying AA
Viewing in currency USD
Validated Results

Fare Basis Airline Booking Trip Type Fare Cabin Effective Expiration Min/Max Advanced
Class Date Date Stay Purchase Req
LCIRAT17 AA L Round-Trip 1940.39 (USD) E 07 / --
LCIRAT21 AA L Round-Trip 2228.05 (USD) E 07 / --
LGLOB26 AA L Round-Trip 2353.57 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE3 AA L Round-Trip 2353.57 (USD) E -- / 12M
LGLOB29 AA L Round-Trip 2745.83 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE4 AA L Round-Trip 2745.83 (USD) E -- / 12M
LCIRAT25 AA L Round-Trip 2745.83 (USD) E 07 / --
LGLOB34 AA L Round-Trip 3334.22 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE5 AA L Round-Trip 3334.22 (USD) E -- / 12M
LGLOB39 AA L Round-Trip 3922.62 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE6 AA L Round-Trip 3922.62 (USD) E -- / 12M
DCIRAT17 AA D Round-Trip 5751.86 (USD) B 07 / --
DCIRAT21 AA D Round-Trip 6614.84 (USD) B 07 / --
DONE3 AA D Round-Trip 7153.55 (USD) B -- / 12M
DCIRAT25 AA D Round-Trip 7549.73 (USD) B 07 / --
DGLOB34 AA D Round-Trip 8106.74 (USD) B -- / 12M
DONE4 AA D Round-Trip 8106.74 (USD) B -- / 12M
DONE5 AA D Round-Trip 9035.09 (USD) B -- / 12M
ACIRAT17 AA A Round-Trip 9779.08 (USD) F 07 / --
DONE6 AA D Round-Trip 10329.56 (USD) B -- / 12M
ACIRAT21 AA A Round-Trip 11217.38 (USD) F 07 / --
AONE3 AA A Round-Trip 12545.84 (USD) F -- / 12M
ACIRAT25 AA A Round-Trip 12655.67 (USD) F 07 / --
AGLOB34 AA A Round-Trip 14475.76 (USD) F -- / 12M
AONE4 AA A Round-Trip 14475.76 (USD) F -- / 12M
AONE5 AA A Round-Trip 16125.88 (USD) F -- / 12M
AONE6 AA A Round-Trip 18563.13 (USD) F -- / 12M


Ex-OSL base prices:
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.comFare Information Search:

Departing OSL on 09/17/18 for OSL
Flying AA
Viewing in currency USD
Validated Results

Fare Basis Airline Booking Trip Type Fare Cabin Effective Expiration Min/Max Advanced
Class Date Date Stay Purchase Req
LCIRAT17 AA L Round-Trip 1924.01 (USD) E 07 / --
LGLOB26 AA L Round-Trip 2094.42 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE3 AA L Round-Trip 2094.42 (USD) E -- / 12M
LCIRAT21 AA L Round-Trip 2311.48 (USD) E 07 / --
LGLOB29 AA L Round-Trip 2481.53 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE4 AA L Round-Trip 2481.53 (USD) E -- / 12M
LCIRAT25 AA L Round-Trip 2792.48 (USD) E 07 / --
LGLOB34 AA L Round-Trip 2878.60 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE5 AA L Round-Trip 2878.60 (USD) E -- / 12M
LGLOB39 AA L Round-Trip 3275.55 (USD) E -- / 12M
LONE6 AA L Round-Trip 3275.55 (USD) E -- / 12M
DCIRAT17 AA D Round-Trip 5144.04 (USD) B 07 / --
DCIRAT21 AA D Round-Trip 5718.57 (USD) B 07 / --
DONE3 AA D Round-Trip 6364.52 (USD) B -- / 12M
DCIRAT25 AA D Round-Trip 6480.16 (USD) B 07 / --
DGLOB34 AA D Round-Trip 6967.11 (USD) B -- / 12M
DONE4 AA D Round-Trip 7039.99 (USD) B -- / 12M
DONE5 AA D Round-Trip 8039.16 (USD) B -- / 12M
DONE6 AA D Round-Trip 9069.43 (USD) B -- / 12M
ACIRAT17 AA A Round-Trip 9072.22 (USD) F 07 / --
ACIRAT21 AA A Round-Trip 9940.70 (USD) F 07 / --
ACIRAT25 AA A Round-Trip 10929.42 (USD) F 07 / --
AONE3 AA A Round-Trip 11162.88 (USD) F -- / 12M
AGLOB34 AA A Round-Trip 12881.00 (USD) F -- / 12M
AONE4 AA A Round-Trip 12881.00 (USD) F -- / 12M
AONE5 AA A Round-Trip 14348.05 (USD) F -- / 12M
AONE6 AA A Round-Trip 16516.93 (USD) F -- / 12M

anabolism Sep 17, 2018 8:02 pm
Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 30215119)
​​​​​​

This is why I need a helpful (or ignorant agent.)

when my sister re-routed ex-JNB, they did let her do YYZ LGA, JFK DFW instead of YYZ JFK DFW
If you are willing to re-route (and pay the $125pp re-route fee) you can add or remove segments as well as change the ticketed points. You still can't exceed 16 segments total, so if you originally book 16 segments, fly 6, and then re-route you still can't add any. If you originally book 10 segments, fly 5, you could re-route and add up to 6 more.

pbd456 Sep 17, 2018 8:05 pm
Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 30215247)
If you are willing to re-route (and pay the $125pp re-route fee) you can add or remove segments as well as change the ticketed points. You still can't exceed 16 segments total, so if you originally book 16 segments, fly 6, and then re-route you still can't add any. If you originally book 10 segments, fly 5, you could re-route and add up to 6 more.
yes. that is the rule...... but i have had RTW with over 16 sectors twice.

my parents had 18 sectors.

reroute on QR CAI DOH to CAI ATH DOH

reroute on JJ BOG EZE to BOG SCL EZE

Dr. HFH Sep 17, 2018 9:39 pm
OK, yes, there is an exception which covered CAI-DOH. They stopped flying the route, so in that case it’s possible that you may exceed 16 sectors, as they did. Change that you are trying to make doesn’t fall into that category.

Dr. HFH Sep 17, 2018 9:42 pm
Originally Posted by IAANN (Post 30214679)
Hi Guys. Might be a stupid question but can we fare a DONEx ticket on ITA?
I'm curious to see if anyone done any from EX-EU or LHR recently and for how much?
Thanks!
The fares are available on expertflyer.com

IAANN Sep 18, 2018 8:12 am
Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 30215481)
The fares are available on expertflyer.com
With the paid membership, correct?


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