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rangle4564 Nov 13, 2018 6:01 pm

What country is currently the best bang for the buck to start your around the world business class trip ????

serfty Nov 13, 2018 7:42 pm


Originally Posted by rangle4564 (Post 30426943)
What country is currently the best bang for the buck to start your around the world business class trip ????

"Best"/Easiest/Cheapest Country to Originate DONE0X

pbd456 Nov 20, 2018 10:10 pm

Flew a done fare on scl eze in W class. Ba posted the sector as D class. Any reason why?

Mwenenzi Nov 20, 2018 10:38 pm


Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 30451488)
Flew a done fare on SCL EZE in W class. BA posted the sector as D class. Any reason why?

Just good luck.
xONEy are A D or L fare booking class. (x = First - business - economy)( y = 3 or 4 or 5) e.g. DONE4

pbd456 Nov 20, 2018 11:20 pm


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 30451563)
Just good luck.
xONEy are A D or L fare booking class. (x = First - business - economy)( y = 3 or 4 or 5) e.g. DONE4

LA short haul does not have D class. only premium economy which booked into W class. D fare booked into W class on those flight

pandaperth Nov 21, 2018 12:03 am


Originally Posted by Mwenenzi (Post 30451563)
Just good luck.
xONEy are A D or L fare booking class. (x = First - business - economy)( y = 3 or 4 or 5) e.g. DONE4

Maybe some "glitch" in LA's system
Earlier this year, on my DONE6, I travelled three LA segments where I voluntarily downgraded to whY
They all posted to AAvantage as "D" class - no complaints from me of course;)

pbd456 Nov 21, 2018 8:38 pm

the conjecture is that LA is posting the flight based on the fare as opposed to the confirmed flight segment.

this is leading to a big worry. since i have A fare that is booked to J. but LA does not have earning on A class....

ajnaro Nov 22, 2018 10:30 am


Originally Posted by pbd456 (Post 30454950)
the conjecture is that LA is posting the flight based on the fare as opposed to the confirmed flight segment.

this is leading to a big worry. since i have A fare that is booked to J. but LA does not have earning on A class....

Your are right, RTW first class segments, flown in D or W on Latam, regularly post as A (discount economy for LA). AAvantage customer service can straighten it out, but the whole process takes at least a month. They first send the posting back to LA. LA does not answer, so after a month's time, AA customer service takes over and fixes it. Segments flown in D or W both usually post as J.

Leaping_Deere Nov 22, 2018 11:20 am

Can anyone help me clarify the "side trips" mentioned in the Wiki.

Im building up a ticket and I've got to 17 segments. Im happy to buy a ticket separately and make it a surface in the RTW ticket to get back to the 16 segments.

Can I add that extra ticket into the same then? I don't quite understand the side trip function

anabolism Nov 22, 2018 11:35 am


Originally Posted by Leaping_Deere (Post 30456636)
Can anyone help me clarify the "side trips" mentioned in the Wiki.

Im building up a ticket and I've got to 17 segments. Im happy to buy a ticket separately and make it a surface in the RTW ticket to get back to the 16 segments.

Can I add that extra ticket into the same then? I don't quite understand the side trip function

You can have a set of one or more flights that are priced and ticketed separately from the RTW. They can be in the same PNR if you make the booking using a travel agent, or an airline willing to do it. The agent puts all your desired flights in the record, then prices and issues the 16 segments of the RTW, then prices and issues the other segment(s).

R2 Nov 22, 2018 12:06 pm


Originally Posted by Leaping_Deere (Post 30456636)
Im building up a ticket and I've got to 17 segments. Im happy to buy a ticket separately and make it a surface in the RTW ticket to get back to the 16 segments.

I don't fully understand what you're planning to do but remember that any surface sector in your RTW ticket uses up one the max allowed 16 segments.

A minimum of 3 and maximum of 16 segments, including surface segments between any 2 airports, are permitted for the entire journey.

Calchas Nov 22, 2018 12:11 pm

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Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 30456679)
A side trip is just a set of one or more flights that are priced and ticketed separately from the RTW. They can be in the same PNR if you make the booking using a travel agent, or an airline willing to do it. The agent puts all your desired flights in the record, then prices and issues the 16 segments of the RTW, then prices and issues the other segment(s).

That’s not quite correct. A side trip is a journey which interrupts the travel under a fare component, but is still on the same ticket. The side trip is calculated separately under its own fare(s) as appropriate as you say. But, in every other respect, it’s part of the journey and counts towards the sixteen sector limit. The side trip will be printed in brackets (parentheses) in the horizontal calculation box on the ticket. A connection to/from a side trip is the same as any other kind of connection in terms of taxes or missed connection protection. Unless the airline staff read the fare calculation box, it won’t be obvious that you are making a side trip.

Attached is an example from the Ticketing Manual.


Side trips are typically not auto priceable.

Separate tickets are not governed by the fare rules. No one can stop you buying a separate ticket.

anabolism Nov 22, 2018 2:49 pm


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 30456776)
That’s not quite correct. A side trip is a journey which interrupts the travel under a fare component, but is still on the same ticket. The side trip is calculated separately under its own fare(s) as appropriate as you say. But, in every other respect, it’s part of the journey and counts towards the sixteen sector limit.

Thanks for the additional information and clarification. Since the poster here wants to exceed the 16 segment limit, I was assuming the poster wanted to purchase a separate ticket, but with flights in one PNR for connection protection, through-checked baggage, etc. I edited my post to delete the characterization of this as a side ticket.

anabolism Nov 22, 2018 2:57 pm


Originally Posted by R2 (Post 30456756)
I don't fully understand what you're planning to do but remember that any surface sector in your RTW ticket uses up one the max allowed 16 segments.

A minimum of 3 and maximum of 16 segments, including surface segments between any 2 airports, are permitted for the entire journey.

Yes, although origin-destination surface segments (where permitted by the fare rules) don't count against the 16 segment limit.

The poster wants to exceed the 16 segment limit and was asking about side tickets. As Calchas explained, side tickets still count against the 16 segment limit, but separate tickets don't. Additional flights can be in the same PNR but ticketed separately. As long as they don't result in an additional surface segment, the RTW can still have 16 flights.

anabolism Nov 22, 2018 3:08 pm

I attempted to clarify the Wiki wording. It now reads:

Q: Can I buy more segments?
A: This is no longer permitted. If you want to exceed the per-continent segment limit, one option is to add a "side trip" which are additional flights that are part of the ticket but calculated and priced per their own fare; you are still limited to a maximum of 16 sectors on one ticket. Another option is to include one or more flights in the booking record that are priced and ticketed separately; since such flights are on their own ticket, they do not count against the 16 segment limit of the main ticket. Not all agents or airlines are comfortable issuing separate tickets out of one booking record, so it is easier to book in a new record, but keeping al flights in one record and issuing separate tickets is often used to increase the ease of having connections protected when there are flight delays, schedule changes, etc.


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