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I'm currently on the second leg of QR 907 with slightly limited internet connectivity. [But on the plus side, it is complimentary.] Let me see if I can dig out the exact wording when I get home. In the mean time, probably check with [MENTION=204888]JAXBA[/MENTION] for an authoritative answer. |
Originally Posted by anabolism
(Post 29475611)
There does seem to be an element of unclarity. Can the flight flight (or the last sequence of flights) start on the same date as the date of the first flight a year hence, or must it be a day or more earlier than the same date as the date of the first flight?
If your itinerary starts on January 1, 2018, then your itinerary should conclude by December 31, 2018. If you had until the same date in the following year, that would be January 1, 2019, of course. But that's the first day of the next year of your ticket, not the last day of your ticket year. |
Originally Posted by Dr. HFH
(Post 29478769)
Well, I can't speak for IATA, but to me there's no lack of clarity. Starting on the same date won't (or shouldn't) be valid.
If your itinerary starts on January 1, 2018, then your itinerary should conclude by December 31, 2018. If you had until the same date in the following year, that would be January 1, 2019, of course. But that's the first day of the next year of your ticket, not the last day of your ticket year. |
Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 29481802)
But as I (and others) pointed out, a 1M ticket can start on 01APR and ends with a flight departing on 01MAY and arriving on perhaps 03MAY. This is where we see an inconsistency.
(Due to IATA's one month and multiple months definition about the last day of the month and how to count the number of month from that day) Anyway, I will call a ticketing/reservation office of JAL, and report. |
Here we go, thank for your patience.
Resolution 735. I hope this can now answer all questions.PERIOD OF VALIDITY. RESOLVED that, unless otherwise specifically provided in the applicable fares resolutions: 1. The period of validity for tickets issued at one way, round or circle trip fares shall be one year from the date of commencement of travel, or, if the first flight coupon is open-dated, and/or unused from the date of issue thereof. [...] 4. Travel under each flight coupon whether related to a normal or special fare, must be scheduled to commence before midnight, local time at the airport of departure, of the date of expiry shown on such flight coupon. [...] 6. Definitions. [...] 6.2 “MONTH(S)” for the purpose of determining duration of ticket validity, shall mean a period of time from a given date in one month to the corresponding date in a subsequent month, e.g.: one month validity 01 January–01 February; 6.3 “YEAR”, for the purpose of determining the duration of ticket validity, shall mean a period of time from the date of ticket issue or the date of commencement of travel, as applicable, to the corresponding date in the subsequent year, e.g.:two month validity 15 January–15 March; three month validity 30 January–30 April. Exception 1: Where the corresponding date does not exist in a shorter subsequent month, then the month(s) shall mean from a given date in one month to the last day of such shorter subsequent month, e.g. one month validity 30 January–28/29 February. Exception 2: When the “Given Date” is the last day in one month, then the “Corresponding Date” in a subsequent month will be the last day in such subsequent months, e.g.: one month validity 31 January–28/29 February; two month validity 28/29 February–30 April; three month validity 30 April–31 July. one year validity 01 January 89–01 January 90; 28 February 89–28 February 90; 29 February 00–28 February 01. So I believe I was wrong in my above statements: you can commence your final flight on the same date one year after your first coupon commences. For completeness, the government of Brazil apparently objected to this Resolution. The period of validity for tickets issued at normal fares, originating in Brazil, shall be one year from the date of their issuance, for commencement and completion of transportation. |
OK, thanks. So the wording in the rules is sloppy. They don't mean from the last stopover point (as the term "stopover" is understood elsewhere in the rules)... they mean that the last flight coupon must commence no later than one year after the initial flight.
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Originally Posted by Calchas
(Post 29482983)
Here we go, thank for your patience.
Resolution 735. I hope this can now answer all questions.PERIOD OF VALIDITY. RESOLVED that, unless otherwise specifically provided in the applicable fares resolutions: 1. The period of validity for tickets issued at one way, round or circle trip fares shall be one year from the date of commencement of travel, or, if the first flight coupon is open-dated, and/or unused from the date of issue thereof. [...] 4. Travel under each flight coupon whether related to a normal or special fare, must be scheduled to commence before midnight, local time at the airport of departure, of the date of expiry shown on such flight coupon. [...] 6. Definitions. [...] 6.2 “MONTH(S)” for the purpose of determining duration of ticket validity, shall mean a period of time from a given date in one month to the corresponding date in a subsequent month, e.g.: one month validity 01 January–01 February; 6.3 “YEAR”, for the purpose of determining the duration of ticket validity, shall mean a period of time from the date of ticket issue or the date of commencement of travel, as applicable, to the corresponding date in the subsequent year, e.g.:two month validity 15 January–15 March; three month validity 30 January–30 April. Exception 1: Where the corresponding date does not exist in a shorter subsequent month, then the month(s) shall mean from a given date in one month to the last day of such shorter subsequent month, e.g. one month validity 30 January–28/29 February. Exception 2: When the “Given Date” is the last day in one month, then the “Corresponding Date” in a subsequent month will be the last day in such subsequent months, e.g.: one month validity 31 January–28/29 February; two month validity 28/29 February–30 April; three month validity 30 April–31 July. one year validity 01 January 89–01 January 90; 28 February 89–28 February 90; 29 February 00–28 February 01. So I believe I was wrong in my above statements: you can commence your final flight on the same date one year after your first coupon commences. For completeness, the government of Brazil apparently objected to this Resolution. The period of validity for tickets issued at normal fares, originating in Brazil, shall be one year from the date of their issuance, for commencement and completion of transportation. So, AA was wrong in interpreting "12 months" to mean two days prior to the date of the first flight, a year hence. |
I also contacted JAL reservaiton office, and confirmed.
When your first flight of XONEX(Oneworld Explorer) is 01May2017, your last flighty can fly on 01May2018, then arrive on 02May2018. |
Originally Posted by anabolism
(Post 29485855)
So, AA was wrong in interpreting "12 months" to mean two days prior to the date of the first flight, a year hence.
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Originally Posted by henry999
(Post 29486601)
I talked to the AA RTW desk yesterday to make a date change to the DONE4 we're in the middle of now. We started on 28 December '17 and our last flight will now depart on 27 December '18. The change was processed quickly, easily and without any quibbles. :)
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The AA RTW desk was happy to take my information for Brother-in-law's LCIR29SA exKUL and send it off to ticketing for "tax calculations". So it would seem most OneWorld "special" tickets (that involve an AA long haul flight) can be booked through them.... Five day payment limit.
Happy wandering Fred |
Originally Posted by Calchas
(Post 29482983)
Here we go, thank for your patience.
Resolution 735. I hope this can now answer all questions.PERIOD OF VALIDITY. RESOLVED that, unless otherwise specifically provided in the applicable fares resolutions: 1. The period of validity for tickets issued at one way, round or circle trip fares shall be one year from the date of commencement of travel, or, if the first flight coupon is open-dated, and/or unused from the date of issue thereof. [...] 4. Travel under each flight coupon whether related to a normal or special fare, must be scheduled to commence before midnight, local time at the airport of departure, of the date of expiry shown on such flight coupon. [...] 6. Definitions. [...] 6.2 “MONTH(S)” for the purpose of determining duration of ticket validity, shall mean a period of time from a given date in one month to the corresponding date in a subsequent month, e.g.: one month validity 01 January–01 February; 6.3 “YEAR”, for the purpose of determining the duration of ticket validity, shall mean a period of time from the date of ticket issue or the date of commencement of travel, as applicable, to the corresponding date in the subsequent year, e.g.:two month validity 15 January–15 March; three month validity 30 January–30 April. Exception 1: Where the corresponding date does not exist in a shorter subsequent month, then the month(s) shall mean from a given date in one month to the last day of such shorter subsequent month, e.g. one month validity 30 January–28/29 February. Exception 2: When the “Given Date” is the last day in one month, then the “Corresponding Date” in a subsequent month will be the last day in such subsequent months, e.g.: one month validity 31 January–28/29 February; two month validity 28/29 February–30 April; three month validity 30 April–31 July. one year validity 01 January 89–01 January 90; 28 February 89–28 February 90; 29 February 00–28 February 01. |
I am towards the end of a DONE5 and may not be able to fly the last sector SYD-JNB....should I call QF and cancel or no show ?
I have searched but couldn’t find the answer so apologies if this has been asked and answered before. |
Originally Posted by Wasabi Tofu
(Post 29486272)
I also contacted JAL reservaiton office, and confirmed.
When your first flight of XONEX(Oneworld Explorer) is 01May2017, your last flighty can fly on 01May2018, then arrive on 02May2018. |
Originally Posted by pbd456
(Post 29517986)
how about CX889 who will arrive May 03?
IMHO, only the date of departure is matter. So, CX889 departing on May01 is no problem |
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