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Originally Posted by LHSEN
(Post 31702980)
Does anyone know the BA RTW desk phone number? I wrote emails to [email protected] and it’s been a couple of week but no response, and I also called 800-828-7797 and couldn’t get through (always saying high call volume try again later) ...
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Originally Posted by LHSEN
(Post 31702980)
Does anyone know the BA RTW desk phone number? I wrote emails to [email protected] and it’s been a couple of week but no response, and I also called 800-828-7797 and couldn’t get through (always saying high call volume try again later) ...
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Preamble: Help please. I’m finding it difficult to arrange travel for the Euro 2020 football games and need to be in Baku (GYD) and Rome next summer. I’m thinking of buying a RTW ticket and using the remaining segments later in 20/21.
The question: is MAN-GYD via DOH, then GYD-FCO (again on QR via DOH) a valid starting itinerary before leaving FCO-JFK open dated for later travel...? I would get back to the UK and return to Rome etc off ticket |
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Originally Posted by alex67500
(Post 31828065)
I think that would be backtracking which isn't allowed. However you can maybe try with a multi-carrier award. You'll need a second oneworld airline but you can always use IB or AA for JFK.
if that’s the case I’d be happy to go to Asia and return via N America. But would prefer the other direction of travel. More avios & Tp too ! |
In my response I am assuming your are considering purchasing a Oneworld RTW ticket. I'm further assuming you're looking at the Oneworld Explorer ticket which is the most common one (Oneworld's other RTW offering, the global Explorer has different rules)
Originally Posted by wyddfa
(Post 31827604)
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The question: is MAN-GYD via DOH, then GYD-FCO (again on QR via DOH) a valid starting itinerary Yes You are allowed up to four flight segments per continent (6 in the case of Nth America) Your itinerary will use all four allowed in Europe/Middle East at the beginning MAN-xDOH-GYD GYD-xDOH-FCO Therefore your later flight from FCO to Nth America will need to be a direct flight - no transits in Europe allowed, because you will have used the allowed four flights already Also your final flight back to Europe will need to be a direct flight from wherever into the UK (so, for example, HKG-MAN) - for the same reason You are allowed a maximum of two stopovers in your continent of origin - your two are at GYD and FCO - so your two transits in DOH must be strictly no longer than 24hrs (from scheduled arrival in DOH to scheduled departure from DOH)
Originally Posted by wyddfa
(Post 31827604)
...before leaving FCO-JFK open dated for later travel...?
While the fare rules allow an open dated ticket, as a practical matter the global booking systems used nowadays do not allow open-dating Also the ticket will need to be a valid RTW ticket at the time of booking, so in addition to JFK you will need to specify the rest of the RTW ticket (in other words destinations in Asia or SWP (South West Pacific) or both plus the final return to the U.K.) The ticket has a lot of flexibility, so you can subsequently change dates/times and even carriers for free. Routing changes (adding or removing destinations or changing stopovers to transits or v.v.) entail a change fee of USD125 plus a recalculation of the taxes/fees/(sur)charges I would get back to the UK and return to Rome etc off ticket This will work. I just want to point out that there is no requirement to return to Rome to continue the RTW ticket. You could fly from anywhere in Europe/Middle East that has direct flights to Nth America; and simply specify the FCO-XXX segment to be a surface segment. Other Points:Examples of XXX are Dublin, Paris, Amsterdam The FCO-XXX surface segment will count as a single stopover Note that XXX cannot be in the U.K. - only one departure is allowed from the country of origin - I see you are based in Wales - QR also flies from Cardiff (CWL) and Birmingham (BHX) to Doha - one of those might be more convenient for you than Manchester - The Oneworld Explorer fare rules are available on oneworld.com - Happy planning :) |
Originally Posted by wyddfa
(Post 31828175)
Thanks. I thought Doha & Baku counted as same (Euro/Mid East) zone and therefore Baku & Rome could be my two stopovers before departing for more distant climes? Hence no backtracking but maybe I’m wrong?
if that’s the case I’d be happy to go to Asia and return via N America. But would prefer the other direction of travel. More avios & Tp too ! [MENTION=563437]alex67500[/MENTION] seems to be mistakenly assuming that you are looking to redeem frequent flier miles for an award ticket; such redemptions will have their own rules, which may well include no backtracking |
Mea culpa, I was actually under the impression that you had to keep going in one direction, and so that once in Baku, coming back to Rome would be illegal. I'll read the rules again...
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The relevant rule is
4(b) Travel must be in a continuous forward direction between TC1 ‐ TC2 ‐ TC3. Backtracking within a continent is permitted except as follows: Backtracking between Hawaii and other points in North America is not permitted. |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 31828210)
In my response I am assuming your are considering purchasing a Oneworld RTW ticket. I'm further assuming you're looking at the Oneworld Explorer ticket which is the most common one (Oneworld's other RTW offering, the global Explorer has different rules)
Yes You are allowed up to four flight segments per continent (6 in the case of Nth America) Your itinerary will use all four allowed in Europe/Middle East at the beginning MAN-xDOH-GYD GYD-xDOH-FCO Therefore your later flight from FCO to Nth America will need to be a direct flight - no transits in Europe allowed, because you will have used the allowed four flights already Also your final flight back to Europe will need to be a direct flight from wherever into the UK (so, for example, HKG-MAN) - for the same reason You are allowed a maximum of two stopovers in your continent of origin - your two are at GYD and FCO - so your two transits in DOH must be strictly no longer than 24hrs (from scheduled arrival in DOH to scheduled departure from DOH) While the fare rules allow an open dated ticket, as a practical matter the global booking systems used nowadays do not allow open-dating Also the ticket will need to be a valid RTW ticket at the time of booking, so in addition to JFK you will need to specify the rest of the RTW ticket (in other words destinations in Asia or SWP (South West Pacific) or both plus the final return to the U.K.) The ticket has a lot of flexibility, so you can subsequently change dates/times and even carriers for free. Routing changes (adding or removing destinations or changing stopovers to transits or v.v.) entail a change fee of USD125 plus a recalculation of the taxes/fees/(sur)charges This will work. I just want to point out that there is no requirement to return to Rome to continue the RTW ticket. You could fly from anywhere in Europe/Middle East that has direct flights to Nth America; and simply specify the FCO-XXX segment to be a surface segment. Other Points:Examples of XXX are Dublin, Paris, Amsterdam The FCO-XXX surface segment will count as a single stopover Note that XXX cannot be in the U.K. - only one departure is allowed from the country of origin - I see you are based in Wales - QR also flies from Cardiff (CWL) and Birmingham (BHX) to Doha - one of those might be more convenient for you than Manchester - The Oneworld Explorer fare rules are available on oneworld.com - Happy planning :) |
Just an additional thought, which may be of interest to you [MENTION=778406]wyddfa[/MENTION]
QR flies DUB-DOH and CX commences flying HKG-DUB on 30-Mar-20 So Dublin would work as the start and end point of your RTW The ex-Ireland RTW base fares are a little cheaper than the ex-UK fares but the big saving would be the departure taxes for your first trip - to Baku ex-DUB departure taxes are EUR13 (= ~GBP11) ex-MAN departure taxes are - in Economy GBP96 - in any other cabin GBP192 |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 31831804)
Just an additional thought, which may be of interest to you [MENTION=778406]wyddfa[/MENTION]
QR flies DUB-DOH and CX flies HKG-DUB So Dublin would work as the start and end point of your RTW The ex-Ireland RTW base fares are a little cheaper than the ex-UK fares but the big saving would be the departure taxes for your first trip - to Baku ex-DUB departure taxes are EUR13 (= ~GBP11) ex-MAN departure taxes are - in Economy GBP96 - in any other cabin GBP192 |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 31831804)
Just an additional thought, which may be of interest to you [MENTION=778406]wyddfa[/MENTION]
QR flies DUB-DOH and CX flies HKG-DUB So Dublin would work as the start and end point of your RTW The ex-Ireland RTW base fares are a little cheaper than the ex-UK fares but the big saving would be the departure taxes for your first trip - to Baku ex-DUB departure taxes are EUR13 (= ~GBP11) ex-MAN departure taxes are - in Economy GBP96 - in any other cabin GBP192 |
Thinking of doing an ex-OSL (seems to be the cheapest in Europe) DONE4 for my third RTW, but this time including Australia. Is PER-LHR doable these days without counting Asia? I was considering EU-NA-SA-AU for the continents.
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Originally Posted by andreiz
(Post 31902848)
Thinking of doing an ex-OSL (seems to be the cheapest in Europe) DONE4 for my third RTW, but this time including Australia. Is PER-LHR doable these days without counting Asia? I was considering EU-NA-SA-AU for the continents.
Travel between South West Pacific and Europe/Middle East on a single flight number/or by surface eg LON‐ SYD/MEL/PER vv, DOH‐ADL/AKL/CBR/MEL/PER/SYD vv, is considered travelling via Asia. Continents South West Pacific, Asia and Europe/Middle East must each be counted. |
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