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jerry a. laska Jul 27, 2014 1:09 pm


Originally Posted by wideman (Post 23264660)
I've been away from OW RTWs for awhile. I've forgotten everything I knew, and probably much has changed, anyway.

I'm looking to buy either a DONE4 or DGLOB34 ex-South Africa. Itinerary is fairly simple -- JNB-HKG-NRT-BOS-DFW-DEN-DFW-BOS-LHR-JNB. (I understand that I'm leaving a lot on the table.)

It looks like I have to reserve/purchase by phone (can't use the online tool -- for one thing, the JL NRT-BOS non-stop doesn't show up on the blessed thing). I will arrive in JNB on the afternoon before I leave on the RTW. What's the best way to handle the reservation & purchase -- call CX (first flight)? call the AA RTW desk?

Call the AA rtw desk to set up the routing and to price it and tell them you will be purchasing from the Mindpearl the AA GSA in Cape Town. Then call mindpearl and pay for the ticket.
See:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...-anyone-2.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...-airlines.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...ed-ex-jnb.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...ine-vs-aa.html

Full Score Jul 27, 2014 6:51 pm


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 23265958)
Call the AA rtw desk to set up the routing and to price it and tell them you will be purchasing from the Mindpearl the AA GSA in Cape Town. Then call mindpearl and pay for the ticket.

Jerry, would the same advice apply if the journey was reversed making the first leg on BA (JNB-LHR), or even CPT-JNB-LHR on BA?

jerry a. laska Jul 28, 2014 12:02 am


Originally Posted by Full Score (Post 23267283)
Jerry, would the same advice apply if the journey was reversed making the first leg on BA (JNB-LHR), or even CPT-JNB-LHR on BA?

Sure. The OW booking tool will revert to the airline operating the first segment (with some exceptions) that doesn't mean that you have to do that if you aren't using the tool. You cannot can book with any Oneworld airline that you want (and that will agree to book and issue the ticket for you). Doesn't matter who the first leg is on. There are any number of us that have booked through AA and then flown to LHR on our first intercontinental flight. Of course that said, at times AA has balked unless at least one of your long-haul overwater segments is on AA metal.

Himeno Jul 28, 2014 1:40 am


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 23268235)
Sure. The OW booking tool will revert to the airline operating the first segment (with some exceptions) that doesn't mean that you have to do that if you aren't using the tool.

I once asked CX to quote a trip. They refused and tried to send me back to QF because "they are the first carrier". They priced it when I started quoting fare rules back at them and stated the booking tool sends to first carrier due to a technical limitation, not a rule.

Wasabi Tofu Jul 29, 2014 3:48 pm


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 23268430)
I once asked CX to quote a trip. They refused and tried to send me back to QF because "they are the first carrier". They priced it when I started quoting fare rules back at them and stated the booking tool sends to first carrier due to a technical limitation, not a rule.

I have ticketed XONEX (1st segments are BA) via CX ticketing office several times. The last one was March 2014.
BA ticketing office has refused credit card transactions above some amount (aprox 600,000JPY) over the phone.

Himeno Jul 30, 2014 12:14 am


Originally Posted by Wasabi Tofu (Post 23278011)
I have ticketed XONEX (1st segments are BA) via CX ticketing office several times. The last one was March 2014.
BA ticketing office has refused credit card transactions above some amount (aprox 600,000JPY) over the phone.

The ticket I asked about was a DAS13 from the CX AU office. They provided it when I pushed back.
The online tool gave me a CX issued DONE3 last year which I had to make a change to. CX JP office did the change without a problem via email. Had to make another change during the trip last year after the MH KL Central office refused (it was MH flights I was trying to change). emailed the CX KL office, all sorted within an hour.

I've asked the CX JP office to price an ex-JP DONE3. Waiting to hear back. I figure I can get it set up and pay when I'm in Tokyo in 3 weeks.

Dr. HFH Jul 30, 2014 12:23 am


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 23279782)
I've asked the CX JP office to price an ex-JP DONE3. Waiting to hear back.

JPY 656,300 according to EF.

Himeno Jul 30, 2014 2:58 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 23279801)
JPY 656,300 according to EF.

Yes, I know. + taxes.

Himeno Jul 31, 2014 2:21 am

... CX Tokyo just refused to quote claiming that MIA-LAX and LAX-IAH was 2 transcons. Houston isn't on the transcon list.

Have quoted relevant section of rules back to them.
....
They apologized. Agent through IAH was IAD.

zoombee Sep 1, 2014 10:01 am


Originally Posted by serfty (Post 23209535)
Base DONE3 fares from E/F for these origins:

HKG - £5870
ICN - £4887
TPE - £5881
NRT - £3788

I've just looked up pricing on expert flyer (base fare in GBP) for JNB, CAI & NRT and figured some might find it useful so am posting it here.

Code:

JNB:
LONE4: 1193 **
LONE5: 1409 **
LONE6: 1657

DONE4: 3323 **
DONE5: 3827 **
DONE6: 4538

CAI:
LONE3: 1384 **
LONE4: 1595 **
LONE5: 1941
LONE6: 2266

DONE3: 3536
DONE4: 3714 **
DONE5: 4237
DONE6: 4946

NRT:
LONE3: 1942
LONE4: 2143
LONE5: 2515
LONE6: 2899

DONE3: 3805
DONE4: 4524
DONE5: 5189
DONE6: 5671

PRG for comparison:
LONE3: 1546
DONE3: 4698

LHR for comparison:
LONE3: 1800
DONE3: 5471


Calchas Sep 1, 2014 9:08 pm


Originally Posted by zoombee (Post 23456451)
I've just looked up pricing on expert flyer (base fare in GBP) for JNB, CAI & NRT and figured some might find it useful so am posting it here.

A month or so back I looked through a few (obviously didn't look at LONEx though :p): http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/briti...l#post23318405

Basically as you say CAI, JNB and TYO were the best, distantly followed by TIP.

Larssparholt Sep 21, 2014 2:03 pm

First flight on RTW
 
Dear Tripadvisors!

Been planning a RTW trip (2 people) in about a year from now.
My first RTW, and I'm not too experienced flying to begin with. (And english is not my first language, so sorry about spelling etc).

I've been reading the forums, trying to find answers to my (many) questions.
I have a couple I can't seem to find the answers to, hope you guys could point me in the right direction...

1. Denmark is my native country. Doha is my first stop on the RTW ticket. Starting in Cairo, not CPH, seems to save me around $5000, not including one way tickets from CPH to CAI. -So that's a no-brainer, right?

Here's my question: Am I allowed to fly straight from CPH to DOH on a seperately bought ticket and thereby voluntarily "miss" the flight from CAI to DOH on the rtw-ticket? -Or *must* I be on the plane from CAI, since it's the first flight on the RTW?

The reason I ask is that it is both easier (fewer fligthts and less traveltime), and cheaper for me, than arranging a flight from CPH to CAI (over IST), only to transit immediately and continue to DOH over AMM.

-Or is there an even smarter way of doing it?

2. As far as I can tell, if I start in CAI (and my first stop is DOH), Royal Jordanian seems to be my "ticket issuer" as far as I can tell. Is that a decent choice? -Or would I be better off with BA/someone else regarding customer service etc?


Hope you guys can help me. And sorry in advance if this is really basic stuff. I'm still learning.

Calchas Sep 21, 2014 2:17 pm


Originally Posted by Larssparholt (Post 23560286)
Here's my question: Am I allowed to fly straight from CPH to DOH on a seperately bought ticket and thereby voluntarily "miss" the flight from CAI to DOH on the rtw-ticket?

Absolutely not. As with any airline ticket, you must use your ticket in the correct order, or your ticket will be cancelled.

No showing will result in a 125 USD penalty, then there is a change fee of 125 USD, and since you want to change the ticketed points of your ticket, the entire ticket would be recalculated to your new start point, Doha. You will be asked to pay the fare difference between starting at CAI and starting at DOH. Even if you are willing to do this, it could take a day or two before the ticket was recalculated by the back office. It just isn't worth it.

It is dimly possible that due to an IT bug between the airlines, your ticket would survive your no show (or at least survive for a while, before being cancelled when you got somewhere else). I wouldn't recommend risking it, unless you can afford to buy a new ticket anyway.


Originally Posted by Larssparholt (Post 23560286)
The reason I ask is that it is both easier (fewer fligthts and less traveltime), and cheaper for me, than arranging a flight from CPH to CAI (over IST), only to transit immediately and continue to DOH over AMM.

The reasons you give are exactly the reasons why there are different prices for round the world tickets originating from different places. You are buying a RTW product originating in CAI. If you want to buy a RTW product originating elsewhere, you will have to pay the local price for it.


Originally Posted by Larssparholt (Post 23560286)
-Or is there an even smarter way of doing it?

Enjoy CAI. JNB is also cheap.


Originally Posted by Larssparholt (Post 23560286)
2. As far as I can tell, if I start in CAI (and my first stop is DOH), Royal Jordanian seems to be my "ticket issuer" as far as I can tell. Is that a decent choice? -Or would I be better off with BA/someone else regarding customer service etc?

Any OW airline can issue your ticket. AA or CX seem to be the preferred choice.

ajnaro Sep 21, 2014 3:11 pm


Originally Posted by Calchas (Post 23560340)

Any OW airline can issue your ticket. AA or CX seem to be the preferred choice.

I have used AA in Cairo, but not for some time. I recommend the following steps:

a) work out your itinerary, consulting members of this board as necessary; b) book with AA in the USA by phone 1-800-247-3247, using Skype or equivalent, and tell them that you will issue the ticket in Cairo so that they will price it correctly; c) get in contact with Emeco Travel at [email protected] or phone 20(2) 333-71277. I dealt with Inas Mouni, but, as I said, that was a few years ago. At that time they accepted international credit and charge cards for payment without any difficulty.

Mwenenzi Sep 22, 2014 1:44 am


Originally Posted by Larssparholt (Post 23560286)
Dear Tripadvisors Flyertalkers!
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Or would I be better off with BA/someone else regarding customer service etc?

Any ticket issued by BA will have very high cash fuel surcharges (added by BA). This is why AA is the preferred issuer for *ONE* for most people.

As above, post your route and ask here about your itinerary. Mileage Monkey is a good guide, but not 100% up to date just now.


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