Nov 20, 2013, 7:48 am
Last edit by: Pat89339
Do not call the airlines under any conditions! This is the fastest way to kill the trick and bring unwanted attention to your itinerary! And do not post precious deals in this thread, this is by far the fastest way to kill the trick!
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
Trick it / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
Oct 17, 2016, 2:56 am
#7186
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 758
That's why almost all the people think inside the box and can't improve their skills. They don't have to use their time elsewhere. They have to break the head against the puzzle because in this way they can find something new. Furthermore there will not be the risk that they will share the trick with 100+ people because when they will lose days to find something, you can be sure that they will not share with people which don't lose their time too.
It's like when someone come here and claim to explain why YQ is missing or some experts claim to have universal YQ remover bla bla bla.
I mean you can read all the impossible explanations about a dump. You can analize it inside the GDS. It's completely useless. It's a wasting of time.
In most cases the dump is inside the fare rules and this is the only thing that you have to analize. Throw away GDS, throw away tools.
Let me do a stupid example for noobs:
Carrier XX, fare XXXYYDDDC: EOE permitted only within Spain.
1X or 3X within Spain will dump this carrier.
What is the point to analize the GDS and say "oh oh oh YQ is missing because of bla bla bla bla bla bla bla". The fare rules are telling you what you have to search, where you have to look etc... that's all.
And this is true also for EK. The only difference is that when I read the EK fare rules I perfectly now if it is dumpable with 3X because I have the skills to make it happens.
How can you build this skills? Lose your time to learn the meaning of fare rules.
It's like when someone come here and claim to explain why YQ is missing or some experts claim to have universal YQ remover bla bla bla.
I mean you can read all the impossible explanations about a dump. You can analize it inside the GDS. It's completely useless. It's a wasting of time.
In most cases the dump is inside the fare rules and this is the only thing that you have to analize. Throw away GDS, throw away tools.
Let me do a stupid example for noobs:
Carrier XX, fare XXXYYDDDC: EOE permitted only within Spain.
1X or 3X within Spain will dump this carrier.
What is the point to analize the GDS and say "oh oh oh YQ is missing because of bla bla bla bla bla bla bla". The fare rules are telling you what you have to search, where you have to look etc... that's all.
And this is true also for EK. The only difference is that when I read the EK fare rules I perfectly now if it is dumpable with 3X because I have the skills to make it happens.
How can you build this skills? Lose your time to learn the meaning of fare rules.
Oct 17, 2016, 3:47 am
#7187
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: c2c
Posts: 136
That's why almost all the people think inside the box and can't improve their skills. They don't have to use their time elsewhere. They have to break the head against the puzzle because in this way they can find something new. Furthermore there will not be the risk that they will share the trick with 100+ people because when they will lose days to find something, you can be sure that they will not share with people which don't lose their time too.
It's like when someone come here and claim to explain why YQ is missing or some experts claim to have universal YQ remover bla bla bla.
I mean you can read all the impossible explanations about a dump. You can analize it inside the GDS. It's completely useless. It's a wasting of time.
In most cases the dump is inside the fare rules and this is the only thing that you have to analize. Throw away GDS, throw away tools.
Let me do a stupid example for noobs:
Carrier XX, fare XXXYYDDDC: EOE permitted only within Spain.
1X or 3X within Spain will dump this carrier.
What is the point to analize the GDS and say "oh oh oh YQ is missing because of bla bla bla bla bla bla bla". The fare rules are telling you what you have to search, where you have to look etc... that's all.
And this is true also for EK. The only difference is that when I read the EK fare rules I perfectly now if it is dumpable with 3X because I have the skills to make it happens.
How can you build this skills? Lose your time to learn the meaning of fare rules.
It's like when someone come here and claim to explain why YQ is missing or some experts claim to have universal YQ remover bla bla bla.
I mean you can read all the impossible explanations about a dump. You can analize it inside the GDS. It's completely useless. It's a wasting of time.
In most cases the dump is inside the fare rules and this is the only thing that you have to analize. Throw away GDS, throw away tools.
Let me do a stupid example for noobs:
Carrier XX, fare XXXYYDDDC: EOE permitted only within Spain.
1X or 3X within Spain will dump this carrier.
What is the point to analize the GDS and say "oh oh oh YQ is missing because of bla bla bla bla bla bla bla". The fare rules are telling you what you have to search, where you have to look etc... that's all.
And this is true also for EK. The only difference is that when I read the EK fare rules I perfectly now if it is dumpable with 3X because I have the skills to make it happens.
How can you build this skills? Lose your time to learn the meaning of fare rules.
But the ones who are greedy for getting spoon-fed with the wrong medicine will never get that. Its much more comfortable than investing time and effort on their own part.
Oct 17, 2016, 5:27 am
#7188
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: New York Metropolitan Area 45 km from JFK
Programs: UA,AA,AS,BA
Posts: 4,607
After so long on FT, you are expected to be more advanced before asking such open-ended questions.In fact anyone asking open-ended questions are wasting their time.
For most carriers the strike dumping Cx-Cy is different than the one dumping Cy-Cx or Cx-Cz for that matter. Many carriers are also self-dumping ;-)
You are trying to bike on a major highway using beginners training wheels.
I have never paid more than $ 269.00 All-in for extremely long-haul itineraries on this carrier including SEZ. In some instances the all-in price can be less than half of that .
The two initial letters of some of the strike airports' IATA codes are already embedded in your name, but there are many more.
For most carriers the strike dumping Cx-Cy is different than the one dumping Cy-Cx or Cx-Cz for that matter. Many carriers are also self-dumping ;-)
You are trying to bike on a major highway using beginners training wheels.
I have never paid more than $ 269.00 All-in for extremely long-haul itineraries on this carrier including SEZ. In some instances the all-in price can be less than half of that .
The two initial letters of some of the strike airports' IATA codes are already embedded in your name, but there are many more.
Last edited by WingedWorldExplorer; Oct 17, 2016 at 5:52 am
Oct 17, 2016, 10:32 am
#7189
Join Date: May 2015
Location: GRO, BCN
Posts: 60
Oh, and also, because it's not that I am asking someone to find me a dump. I think that, if someone sees it like a game and tries to dump it, they don't mind finding the flight as well, as it is part of the game!
Oct 17, 2016, 11:05 am
#7191
Join Date: May 2015
Location: GRO, BCN
Posts: 60
You're wrong twice here, in the same sentence. It's not my game or my pleasure, it's theirs if they decide to play it. Also wrong when generalizing about what everyone or noone thinks / does. Nice job!
Oct 17, 2016, 11:09 am
#7192
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 412
5. Do not code your questions. No one will be able to answer them.
Oct 17, 2016, 11:13 am
#7193
Join Date: May 2015
Location: GRO, BCN
Posts: 60
I would also modify it: noone will bother to answer and waste time but... isn't it exactly what you're doing?
Last edited by the_gironian; Oct 17, 2016 at 11:18 am
Oct 17, 2016, 11:52 am
#7196
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: NY
Programs: AA: ExPlat & 3MM; UA: 1k; KL: Plat 4 Life; Hyatt: Plat; SPG, Marriott, Hilton: Gold
Posts: 2,709
Oct 17, 2016, 11:56 am
#7197
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: c2c
Posts: 136
Oct 17, 2016, 12:01 pm
#7198
Join Date: May 2015
Location: GRO, BCN
Posts: 60
