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Do not call the airlines under any conditions! This is the fastest way to kill the trick and bring unwanted attention to your itinerary! And do not post precious deals in this thread, this is by far the fastest way to kill the trick!
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
Trick it / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
#7141
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 178
Sure.
You are giving the strike details away to a 3rd party website. The details of which are easily checked by the site owners.
Any strike that you use on that site, you are giving away.
I realise that I am more risk adverse than some, but personally I don't trust a system like that. And I never personally use it, or any other site like that. Nor do any of the experienced FDers that I know.
You are giving the strike details away to a 3rd party website. The details of which are easily checked by the site owners.
Any strike that you use on that site, you are giving away.
I realise that I am more risk adverse than some, but personally I don't trust a system like that. And I never personally use it, or any other site like that. Nor do any of the experienced FDers that I know.
This is why many shy away from these tools for any tricked itins.
#7142
Join Date: May 2013
Location: west coast best coast
Programs: TINDER GOLD, STARBUCKS GOLD, COSTCO EXECUTIVE!!
Posts: 3,989
#7143
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: ARN
Programs: Bit of this, bit of that
Posts: 454
#7144
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 11
Trial and error. Aggregators* can be helpful (or not) and some OTA's do prefer a bit more guidelines to trigger the desired result.
Having problems to get something ticketed is an issue all dumping and flying tricksters face from time to time. For newbies ITA can obviously be helpful when trying to discover your first dumps and strikes. But be aware that real life FD goes much further than just playing with ITA or even a GDS. Many of the gems are not even ITA-ble and have a very different logic behind the construction.
Having problems to get something ticketed is an issue all dumping and flying tricksters face from time to time. For newbies ITA can obviously be helpful when trying to discover your first dumps and strikes. But be aware that real life FD goes much further than just playing with ITA or even a GDS. Many of the gems are not even ITA-ble and have a very different logic behind the construction.
At a certain point you will have to leave ITA behind (and only use it for it's own merits), put on your boots and dive into the marsh of what I would call OTA dumping. Anybody not joining that level and specific process is nothing more than a sissy, wannabe dumper. Do you get it ?
#7145
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: IL
Programs: UA Gold, DL Silver, Hertz PC, Avis Pref+, Accor Silver
Posts: 1,107
C1-C3 $360
This is similar to a self dump that was publicized on all the blogs this year.
A commonly used short hop 3x (thought to be dead) took about $200 off YQ. Other C3 destinations possible for the same (ish) price, perhaps cheaper.
ITAble, OTAble with one of the main ones, also on one of the carriers' website...
(caveat - a conformist at heart, I have tried to keep within this forum's guidelines. If more direction is needed to make it useful I may edit).
This is similar to a self dump that was publicized on all the blogs this year.
A commonly used short hop 3x (thought to be dead) took about $200 off YQ. Other C3 destinations possible for the same (ish) price, perhaps cheaper.
ITAble, OTAble with one of the main ones, also on one of the carriers' website...
(caveat - a conformist at heart, I have tried to keep within this forum's guidelines. If more direction is needed to make it useful I may edit).
#7146
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 62
Haven't been in here for ages as I simply haven't had time or the possibility to book a flight ticket, but now I've decided to quit my job and possibly relocate to Australia. Before doing so I want to visit a few more countries and parts of the world I haven't visited.
Looking at leaving Sweden going to
i) South America. Arriving:BOG/CCS or other Northern South American airports. Departing: Preferably SCL, but EZE/GRU/GIG could work.
ii) Southern Africa (SA, Namibia, Botswana, Mocambique, Zimbabwe). Arriving: anywhere. Departing: Anywhere
iii) Australia. Arriving:MEL/SYD
I'm not looking for specific dumps per se, but rather looking for general ideas what I should think of/look for before booking my flights. I feel with this kind of itinerary the amount of possible dumps is massive. I had originally planned going i) Southern Africa, ii) South America, iii) Australia and managed to get it down to 830 USD+10k avios w/o any "proper" dumping, but going that direction is simply so much more easy to dump. I am no stranger to sit in sh*tty terminals for 20 hours or have 15 transfers along the way.
Looking at leaving Sweden going to
i) South America. Arriving:BOG/CCS or other Northern South American airports. Departing: Preferably SCL, but EZE/GRU/GIG could work.
ii) Southern Africa (SA, Namibia, Botswana, Mocambique, Zimbabwe). Arriving: anywhere. Departing: Anywhere
iii) Australia. Arriving:MEL/SYD
I'm not looking for specific dumps per se, but rather looking for general ideas what I should think of/look for before booking my flights. I feel with this kind of itinerary the amount of possible dumps is massive. I had originally planned going i) Southern Africa, ii) South America, iii) Australia and managed to get it down to 830 USD+10k avios w/o any "proper" dumping, but going that direction is simply so much more easy to dump. I am no stranger to sit in sh*tty terminals for 20 hours or have 15 transfers along the way.
#7149
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: TXL
Programs: A3 Silver
Posts: 1,116
#7150
Join Date: Jul 2016
Programs: "
Posts: 20
#7151
Join Date: May 2013
Location: west coast best coast
Programs: TINDER GOLD, STARBUCKS GOLD, COSTCO EXECUTIVE!!
Posts: 3,989
#7153
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Africa
Programs: A3 Gold, Hertz Gold
Posts: 92
I remember there was one poster who wanted to capitalise on a tragedy that happened in the past and pretending he was a relative who had to go ....looking for free handout. Now we have the charity angle...the lengths people will go to to avoid any effort and get it served on a silver platter. Jeez!
#7154
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: MSP, NYC, or WAS
Programs: AA CO DL
Posts: 717
I remember there was one poster who wanted to capitalise on a tragedy that happened in the past and pretending he was a relative who had to go ....looking for free handout. Now we have the charity angle...the lengths people will go to to avoid any effort and get it served on a silver platter. Jeez!
#7155
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Africa
Programs: A3 Gold, Hertz Gold
Posts: 92
Dont get me started on the blogs. One of the oldest tricks on AZ (and generally the only way it can be dumped) was posted in the MR thread in the clear on FT....that was copied by SF and other blogs...and today this trick has been closed.....this is the nonsense we have to deal with.....