Nov 20, 2013, 7:48 am
Last edit by: Pat89339
Do not call the airlines under any conditions! This is the fastest way to kill the trick and bring unwanted attention to your itinerary! And do not post precious deals in this thread, this is by far the fastest way to kill the trick!
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
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This is NOT the right place to ask: "Can you help me with a low fare for AAA-BBB?" This is not the beg-it thread, but the trick-it thread.
This thread deals with unique combinations of routes and booking tricks in order to lower prices on airline fares. Prices that would astound the general public are often achieved by the posters in this thread.
Many people, including airline representatives, monitor this thread. For that reason, it is unorganized, very content heavy, often lacking details, and written in shorthand. It takes patience and effort in order to understand the conversation and be able to participate as an active member.
We encourage you to read the entirety of this thread if you would like to get started and to experiment as soon as you understand the gist of Trick It. Lots of time spent reading, practicing, and learning is the only way to be able to reproduce our tricks and discover new ones yourself. There are many, many people who ask for advice here, so productive members are only able to help those who have shown a concerted effort and progress over a long period of time (months).
If you have no idea what this thread is about, a good place to start are various blogs' posts on the subject. At the very least, read the Rules for posting in this thread. They're also listed in the very first post, below.
Older portions of the thread have been separated into archive thread by year. They are listed below
2008 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2009 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2010 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2011 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2012 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2013 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
2014 Trick It / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
Trick it / negotiate it / special savings lounge thread
Oct 5, 2016, 1:59 am
#7112
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 412
... perhaps read the fare rules?...
Then estimate yourself what chance is that TK made an error filing their own YQ rules. Answer: there is little chance (self-dump happens sometimes with TK) but I would not count on it...
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH TK FARES WITHIN
TURKEY OR BETWEEN TURKEY AND CYPRUS. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.
TURKEY OR BETWEEN TURKEY AND CYPRUS. VALIDATE ALL FARE
COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.
Oct 5, 2016, 9:00 am
#7115
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 68
For Conventional Fuel Dumping, when a 1x or 3x flight is added to the itinerary, the one-way fare of that 1x/3x is added end-on-end to the fare construction.
1x changes the ORIGIN of the itinerary while 3x changes the final DESTINATION.
While there is a fare increase by adding the one-way fare end-on-end, there MIGHT be a larger amount of Fuel Surcharge decrease since your trip is now coming from (1x) or going to (3x) a new location that might have lower Fuel Surcharges.
Oct 5, 2016, 9:38 am
#7116
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 68
Non-Conventional fuel dumping is when the lowered fuel surcharge comes as a result of changing the Validating Carrier.
In the airline industry, while carriers may agree to ticket for each other, they do not always agree to collect (or allow the others to collect) fuel surcharges FOR the other airline.
The result might be a drastic drop of fuel surcharge in your ticket since it is not collected.
Sorry, I cannot provide examples here without violating the new TOS. But generally speaking, when blogs like SF or F4F find a fantastic Error Fare, you can suspect it is due to non-conventional fuel dumping.
Oct 5, 2016, 11:48 am
#7117
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Rome
Posts: 14
man i've read fare rules but tk is very hard to fd....
Oct 5, 2016, 1:40 pm
#7118
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 758
Oct 6, 2016, 10:16 am
#7123
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 178
Every day that passes, increasingly sensitive information is gifted to those who have no appreciation of it. All the noobs getting into bed with self-proclaimed messiahs should wonder what will happen to the tricks they discover, and all the hard work they invest, should the attention seekers of the world decide they need a new audience. I ask the noobs around who are hungry to learn this hobby if they would be ok with this? Would you be happy to have a trick that you regularly fly be exposed by a third party who has no respect for the information you provided them? The barriers around this sport are not to keep newcomers out, rather it is to ensure that those in possession of sensitive info treat it with the respect that it deserves.
Caveat emptor my friends. There have been many false prophets before.
Caveat emptor my friends. There have been many false prophets before.
Oct 6, 2016, 3:44 pm
#7125
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Africa
Programs: A3 Gold, Hertz Gold
Posts: 92
Every day that passes, increasingly sensitive information is gifted to those who have no appreciation of it. All the noobs getting into bed with self-proclaimed messiahs should wonder what will happen to the tricks they discover, and all the hard work they invest, should the attention seekers of the world decide they need a new audience. I ask the noobs around who are hungry to learn this hobby if they would be ok with this? Would you be happy to have a trick that you regularly fly be exposed by a third party who has no respect for the information you provided them? The barriers around this sport are not to keep newcomers out, rather it is to ensure that those in possession of sensitive info treat it with the respect that it deserves.
Caveat emptor my friends. There have been many false prophets before.
Caveat emptor my friends. There have been many false prophets before.