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Old Oct 24, 2015, 5:28 am
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Why would a DL SkyPesos member do this now that RDMs are earned on ticket cost?

Either for the MQMs, or to actually visit SIN FWIW there are posts in the thread about similar itineraries on AA.

How do I search for dates/prices?

One way is to use ITA Matrix. Click on "Advanced routing codes" and enter something along the lines of:
  • outbound: dl+ dtw nrt
  • inbound: dl+ nrt dtw

NOTE: Basic Economy (E) fares have been spotted on this route and come with heavy restrictions. If you want to exclude E fares from your search you can add f ~bc=e in the separate "extension codes" box

See post 1329 for some screenshots (which are now out of date, the routing codes and extension code have been split into two separate input boxes)

You may wish to experiment with things like dtw,atl or x or even x+. Read the advanced routing codes help for more ideas. (DL no longer flies JFK-NRT nonstop)

I found an itinerary that works for me, how do I book it?
  • you can try a multi-city booking on Kayak or Google Flights and click through to Delta (you can save some effort by omitting the implicit/forced connection through NRT for example)
  • if you are comfortable installing add-ons etc. you can use the ITA userscript (see the wiki at the top of that thread)
  • for the less technically-inclined there is also the Book with Matrix helper site (and its related FT thread)
  • call in if none of the above methods work or e.g. you want to add a stopover

Do I need a visa?

No visa is needed for transits (or in fact for visiting up to 90 days, subject to qualifications)
You can get your boarding passes for your Delta return flight at Transit Lounge D, which opens 3 hours before departure.

What are the best seats?

Assuming you're stuck in Y (no GUCs etc.)
Picking a seat (Delta One, Boeing 777)
Master A330-300 (A333) Best Seats Thread

Will there be wifi on the international legs?

DL now touts International Wi-Fi is available on 100% of all wide body, long-haul aircraft providing near global coverage. Given "long-haul" this may not apply to NRT-SIN.

777s should all have wifi: thread #1, thread #2; although it is still subject to coverage/availability, seems to drop out in the far northern parts of the route, and coming down the Russian coast it seemed like http was slow but working and anything else like https took forever and/or was blocked

Delta doesn't seem to sell the Gogo global day pass on their web site but you can buy it directly from Gogo. You can use the same pass on both domestic and international flights in any order as long as it is within 24 hours.

FlexPerks VISA single-flight passes can NOT be used on international flights (they do not appear as a redemption choice when you sign in to Gogo in flight)

Other related threads:

Delta 763 International Wifi Installation Progress (especially posts #7 and #9)

Delta to add Gogo WiFi to international fleet

SIN airport facilities

If you are doing a quick turn, you can remain airside the whole time. There are a number of 24-hour food outlets in the transit mall areas (center of each terminal)

Each of the 3 terminals has their Transit Hotel on Level 3. Prices are similar for all:
-Terminal 1 - Plaza Premium Lounge recently opened Aerotel. Book at: Aerotel Terminal 1
-Terminal 2 and 3 - Harilela Hospitality runs an Ambassador Transit Hotel in each Terminal, above the Orchid Garden and Movie Theater, respectively. Book at: Ambassador Transit Hotels

Note that you can actually stay in either of the 3, regardless of which Terminal you arrive in. However, when leaving the airport, you need to exit through the same Terminal as that you arrived in.

FT thread on Singapore Airport Lounges

Airport website links:
NOTE: even though the DNATA Sky View lounge lists "Delta Airlines" on the airport web page and appears on a skyteam.com lounge search, it is considered by Delta to be third-party-operated, thus if you are STE+ in Y you will not have access. People have reported gaining access on an upgrade to J but YMMV.

There is free wifi either by receiving a text message code, or by scanning your passport. Previous posts mention just giving an email address, maybe try at the info desks. There are also free Internet stations.

NOTE for U.S. and other ~110V travelers: Singapore uses 230V/50Hz. There are plenty of USB charging ports in the seating areas, and most wall adapters for electronics these days are dual voltage (look for writing on the plug like "Input: 100V-240V") but if not or if you need to plug something else in, bring plug and voltage adapters to be safe.

Things to do in SIN

In descriptions of things to see/do airside, when you see "garden" read "smoking area" especially if you won't be there during daylight, the only other main reason people go there is to smoke.

SkyTrain between terminals runs from 5am-2:30am but you can always walk between any of the terminals as well.

Little More than 24 Hours in Singapore especially post #5 in that thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/25605453-post1047.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24452870-post836.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24064053-post794.html
Best practices for ~5 hour turnaround at SIN
3 perfect days in Singapore
Singapore's MRT (Mass Rapid Transit)
Destinations > Asia > Singapore FT forum
cheap transportation to Marina Bay Sands (or any hotel) for S$9

Things to do on a long connection through NRT:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/24426838-post835.html

Narita Int'l. Airport (NRT) Layover & Hotel Master Thread

There is free wifi in NRT.

Returning to the US

Even if you don't have Global Entry, CBP has a Mobile Passport Control app -- see program info and app website for d/l and list of participating airports which includes ATL (but not DTW)

You will have to pick up checked bags if any, and then everyone has to go through TSA security. International connections usually have their own checkpoint but it may not have PreCheck or CLEAR. If you want to take advantage of either of these, see airport-specific info below.

Through Delta's partnership CLEAR is free for DM, $79 for other Medallions, and $99 for General Members. Click here for more info on the partnership or to sign up.

Relevant FT threads:
Returning via ATL:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Atlanta (ATL): The Definitive Thread

CLEAR is now open in ATL but only at the domestic end.

For PreCheck, if you arrive in F, when you exit the hallway from customs there is a ticket desk in front of you. Normally the belt for re-checking bags on the left, and TSA screening beyond that. For PreCheck turn instead to the right (away from the drop-off luggage belt) and exit into the arrivals area, go up the escalators, and then you use the regular F terminal security checkpoint.

(It seems like NRT-ATL usually lands in E though... anyone have info to share?)

Returning via DTW:

Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Detroit (DTW): The Definitive Thread

When you exit customs normally you are directed to the right for rescreening. For PreCheck or CLEAR exit to the left as if you are an local Detroit arriving passenger and you will see some escalators in front of you. Go up 3 sets of escalators (there is a security checkpoint after the 2nd set but it does not have PreCheck). There is also an elevator.

The configuration as of Jan 2017 was, CLEAR without PreCheck was near the top of the escalators. If you have both CLEAR and PreCheck, there is a separate CLEAR lane on the right.

Duty Free Liquids

This post from 2014 says liquor etc must be checked as they cannot pass through screening in NRT/TSA. However this may have changed since then, and duty-free purchases in a Sealed Tamper-Evident Bag (STEB) might be permitted:

http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/secu...ection_ss.html

https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-...g/liquids-rule

FT: Bringing Duty-Free Liquids into USA with a Connecting Flight

If you have any experience with this, please share!

IRROPS handling:

Good at least for one DM: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/21923836-post7.html

Trip Reports/Tips:

2016: Dec, Nov, Oct #1, Oct #2, Oct #3, Sep, Apr, Feb

2015: Nov #1, Nov #2, Oct, Sep

2014: Dec, Nov #1, Nov #2, Nov #3, Nov #4, Nov #5, Oct, Sep #1, Sep #2

2013: Oct
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Old Oct 15, 2017, 9:26 am
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Gotcha. Thanks. I like my own personal mobility and ride in Georgia in 100+ degrees so the heat isn't too much concern. I'll think about it.
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Old Oct 15, 2017, 9:34 am
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Originally Posted by dinanm3atl
I have the following coming up.

Oct 23-26 - ATL-LAX-SIN
Nov 6-10 - ATL-LGA-SIN Seems a scooter/motorcycle is possible in Singapore as well. What should I do? See? Where to stay?

I am a photographer by trade so seeing stuff to photograph is a plus!
Depending on what time your flight arrives (MSP/NRT/SIN) for me always arrives at something like 12:30am. To get to Marina Bay you are about 30 min by car which IS the only way to travel in Singapore. During the late night a taxi costs (If I remember correctly) about $20 to Marina Bay. During the day I'd never rent a scooter as it's a absolute madhouse traffic wise and the distance involved.

Being a amateur photographer myself you MUST go to Marina Bay Sands hotel just to gasp in awe at the architecture. If you have enough time and arrive at MBS before 2am walk directly behind the hotel to the Gardens by the Bay as that feature will absolutely knock your socks off, especially at night.

The entire Marina Bay district is completely safe at night. At no time during my MR's to SIN have I felt unsafe walking around the marina area. There is actually a Michelin rated local food place that literally costs $4/5/6 for a late night dinner place not more than 200 yards away from the soccer arena

It's a amazing city with a more incredible vibe and environment.

A. Take taxi to Marina Bay
B. Walk around Marina Bay making sure you stop at this food place near floating soccer arena
C. When downtown stop and reminisce on one of the many water facing benches
D. As walk comes to a end walk thru Marina Bay Sands and be ready to have your mind blown
E. If enough time presents itself and if you arrive at MBS before 2am walk to Garden of the Bay and prepare to be amazed
F. Grab a taxi from que at MBS back to airport.
G. Lounge of your choice
H. Sleep on plane and dream of a fascinating MR
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Old Oct 15, 2017, 11:46 am
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Wow! This thread is still alive.
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Old Oct 15, 2017, 12:06 pm
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The deal is still alive! And, has gotten better!
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Old Oct 15, 2017, 2:08 pm
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Originally Posted by aspenedelen
Depending on what time your flight arrives (MSP/NRT/SIN) for me always arrives at something like 12:30am. To get to Marina Bay you are about 30 min by car which IS the only way to travel in Singapore. During the late night a taxi costs (If I remember correctly) about $20 to Marina Bay. During the day I'd never rent a scooter as it's a absolute madhouse traffic wise and the distance involved.

Being a amateur photographer myself you MUST go to Marina Bay Sands hotel just to gasp in awe at the architecture. If you have enough time and arrive at MBS before 2am walk directly behind the hotel to the Gardens by the Bay as that feature will absolutely knock your socks off, especially at night.

The entire Marina Bay district is completely safe at night. At no time during my MR's to SIN have I felt unsafe walking around the marina area. There is actually a Michelin rated local food place that literally costs $4/5/6 for a late night dinner place not more than 200 yards away from the soccer arena

It's a amazing city with a more incredible vibe and environment.

A. Take taxi to Marina Bay
B. Walk around Marina Bay making sure you stop at this food place near floating soccer arena
C. When downtown stop and reminisce on one of the many water facing benches
D. As walk comes to a end walk thru Marina Bay Sands and be ready to have your mind blown
E. If enough time presents itself and if you arrive at MBS before 2am walk to Garden of the Bay and prepare to be amazed
F. Grab a taxi from que at MBS back to airport.
G. Lounge of your choice
H. Sleep on plane and dream of a fascinating MR
Land 1230am.

Depart SIN ~40 hours later at 715am.
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Old Oct 15, 2017, 4:08 pm
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Currently enroute- check in/boarding pass question

currently enroute flying over canada dtw-nrt then to sin and turn right back around. Many of you that have done this quick turn may be aware delta sends you a check in reminder for the return leg while you are in the air lol.

anyone have success getting boarding passes printed in narita (ie delta lounge) on your way to singapore so you dont have to wait until transit desk opens in singapore? Thanks much.
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Old Oct 15, 2017, 4:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Speedis1
currently enroute flying over canada dtw-nrt then to sin and turn right back around. Many of you that have done this quick turn may be aware delta sends you a check in reminder for the return leg while you are in the air lol.

anyone have success getting boarding passes printed in narita (ie delta lounge) on your way to singapore so you dont have to wait until transit desk opens in singapore? Thanks much.
Mine all ended up on my phone. However I got paper ones at backup. Used the transit desk.
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Old Oct 15, 2017, 6:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Speedis1
currently enroute flying over canada dtw-nrt then to sin and turn right back around. Many of you that have done this quick turn may be aware delta sends you a check in reminder for the return leg while you are in the air lol.

anyone have success getting boarding passes printed in narita (ie delta lounge) on your way to singapore so you dont have to wait until transit desk opens in singapore? Thanks much.
Be aware that SIN does not honor phone or web BPs - for "security" reasons you must check in with the agent at either the transfer desk (airside) or the ticket counter (landside) starting about T-3.5 prior to departure.
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Old Oct 15, 2017, 9:42 pm
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Safe flight, Speedis1, I'll be doing the same thing in about 3 weeks, will hit Delta Diamond on the leg from SIN-NRT.
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Old Oct 15, 2017, 10:21 pm
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Originally Posted by ChuckieB
Safe flight, Speedis1, I'll be doing the same thing in about 3 weeks, will hit Delta Diamond on the leg from SIN-NRT.
Thanks chukieB!

Im doing a sea-nrt-sin-nrt-sea from oct 28-31st as well. You wouldnt happen to be on any of those Legs would ya?
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Old Oct 16, 2017, 7:15 am
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Originally Posted by Speedis1
Thanks chukieB!

Im doing a sea-nrt-sin-nrt-sea from oct 28-31st as well. You wouldnt happen to be on any of those Legs would ya?
I'll be headed outbound Oct 26th DTW-NRT-SIN

Spending a long weekend in KL/SIN

Returning Oct 31 SIN-NRT-DTW on the first A350 flight from NRT. Seems like we will share a leg on the return.
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Old Oct 16, 2017, 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by cdonnellyx
Spending a long weekend in KL/SIN
What hotel in Kuala Lumpur? Renaissance has a great pool -- perhaps best in the city. The JW Marriott has a great lounge. I would say the lounge attendants are a little better at the Renaissance, but the food seemed to be of a higher quality at the JW Marriott. There was always a chef during food services who made whatever you wanted if you didn't like the offerings. Also, the JW Marriott had free sparkling wine.

Be sure to fly the cool Ethiopian Airlines fifth-freedom route between Kuala Lumpur and Singapore.
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Old Oct 16, 2017, 9:57 am
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Originally Posted by mnbp
Be aware that SIN does not honor phone or web BPs - for "security" reasons you must check in with the agent at either the transfer desk (airside) or the ticket counter (landside) starting about T-3.5 prior to departure.
You can get into the Dnata lounge, using Priority Pass, without a boarding pass if you tell the attendant you are in transit. They will politely remind you to get a boarding pass when the transit desk opens around 3 a.m. The lounge is maybe 5 minutes by foot from the transit desk. When I was there about a month ago, there were at the most four of five other passengers in the lounge overnight. Most were passed out in their pajamas. The food changes over to breakfast around 2 a.m. The alcohol is self-serve. I didn't see any sparkling wine, but there was plenty of other wine as well as spirits. The showers were self-serve as well.

The transfer desk attendant, who is a Delta employee, not a contracted employee, told me they get 2-3 people doing a quick-turn every month.
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Old Oct 16, 2017, 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by hockeyinsider
What hotel in Kuala Lumpur? Renaissance has a great pool -- perhaps best in the city. The JW Marriott has a great lounge. I would say the lounge attendants are a little better at the Renaissance, but the food seemed to be of a higher quality at the JW Marriott. There was always a chef during food services who made whatever you wanted if you didn't like the offerings. Also, the JW Marriott had free sparkling wine.

Be sure to fly the cool Ethiopian Airlines fifth-freedom route between Kuala Lumpur and Singapore.
Will be staying at the JW actually, have stayed there before and enjoyed the amenities you listed plus the excellent breakfast spread.

Unfortunately the ET flight is at an awful time (midnight) and will instead be flying MH on the quick jump to/from KL.
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Old Oct 16, 2017, 11:35 am
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The renovations at the J.W. Marriott are very nice. The TVs are probably the biggest I have seen. They had to have been 60 inches. My only complaints were two-fold:
1) The pool is closed, so you use the Ritz-Carlton pool. It sucks. Too small and gets almost zero sunlight.
2) The bathrooms weren't renovated. They're fine, but look dated compared to the rest of the rooms.

Ethiopian departs Singapore at 3:50 pm with the return from Kuala Lumpur at 11:25 p.m. It's timed rather good to make the Delta flight home from Singapore.
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