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wackyiraqi Oct 17, 2013 11:44 am


Originally Posted by Happy (Post 21620419)
4) Conclusion: CVS does not need you the VR buyer as its customer as you do not bring in the needed profit that a business exists for.

First - I agree with pretty much everything you wrote. However, while the VR sales may not impact their P/L, if CVS didn't offer this product, they would never see me walk through their doors.

They've gotten at least a couple extra purchases out of me. They are the only game in town for me, so I'd like them to get something out of it.

gil123 Oct 17, 2013 1:06 pm

So today I tried to buy one reload car at three different CVS locations, and all three were a no-go with a credit card. This appeared to be coded into the register and generated an on-screen message after the cashier swiped my card that another form of payment is required. Again, not the policy of the cashiers but a message on the register. I tried at the self service screen and with cashier, with other items or without and nothing worked. Two out of three of the locations were ones I had never visited before but the third was one where I had never had a problem buying with a CC. Anyone else have a sudden change recently?

TheBOSman Oct 17, 2013 1:12 pm


Originally Posted by gil123 (Post 21624496)
So today I tried to buy one reload car at three different CVS locations, and all three were a no-go with a credit card. This appeared to be coded into the register and generated an on-screen message after the cashier swiped my card that another form of payment is required. Again, not the policy of the cashiers but a message on the register. I tried at the self service screen and with cashier, with other items or without and nothing worked. Two out of three of the locations were ones I had never visited before but the third was one where I had never had a problem buying with a CC. Anyone else have a sudden change recently?

Sounds like a fraud alert on the card you are using. Did you attempt to purchase with different CCs at each location or the same one?

gil123 Oct 17, 2013 1:44 pm

No fraud alert. It was not declined- there was a message on the register screen saying a different form of payment is required for this transaction. And I used the card for other things today after that and it was not declined so that is not the issue.

Explore Oct 17, 2013 1:48 pm


Originally Posted by Happy (Post 21621383)

Today I bought a gallon of milk which is at $3.79 with 1 ExtraCare buck reward. I paid it with a $1 off CVS coupon that printed out from that little red machine when you scanned your ExtraCare card, and $2 ExtraCare buck I got 2 weeks ago buying a $2.99 Colgate toothbrush of which I had a $1 manufacturer coupon. The final cost of my gallon milk today was $0.79.

CVS would never get my business on its highly overpriced regular priced items. Ditto Walgreen. MS or not, that will never change.

Some CVS locations push those red Extra Care cards on me. I assume you only realize rewards for purchases other than prepaid cards?

Explore Oct 17, 2013 1:50 pm


Originally Posted by gil123 (Post 21624496)
So today I tried to buy one reload car at three different CVS locations, and all three were a no-go with a credit card. This appeared to be coded into the register and generated an on-screen message after the cashier swiped my card that another form of payment is required. Again, not the policy of the cashiers but a message on the register. I tried at the self service screen and with cashier, with other items or without and nothing worked. Two out of three of the locations were ones I had never visited before but the third was one where I had never had a problem buying with a CC. Anyone else have a sudden change recently?

Was this a VR or another prepaid card? If VR, was it the radically new design? Also, what part of the country was this?

tuphat Oct 17, 2013 2:15 pm


Originally Posted by Explore (Post 21624726)
Some CVS locations push those red Extra Care cards on me. I assume you only realize rewards for purchases other than prepaid cards?

You don't earn any points for purchases of VRs. I don't know about other GCs.

Wonko Oct 17, 2013 2:18 pm


Originally Posted by gil123 (Post 21624706)
No fraud alert. It was not declined- there was a message on the register screen saying a different form of payment is required for this transaction. And I used the card for other things today after that and it was not declined so that is not the issue.

Don't assume that error messages reflect the actual error. Fraud alert blocks cause an error message "Alternate tender required" or something similar. And I think that fraud alerts can be set for certain stores or transactions of over some amount - someone correct me if I'm wrong. Also, is there any chance that the transaction would have put you over your credit limit?

gil123 Oct 17, 2013 2:27 pm


Originally Posted by Wonko (Post 21624901)
Don't assume that error messages reflect the actual error. Fraud alert blocks cause an error message "Alternate tender required" or something similar. And I think that fraud alerts can be set for certain stores or transactions of over some amount - someone correct me if I'm wrong. Also, is there any chance that the transaction would have put you over your credit limit?

No it was not a fraud alert, nowhere near my credit limit and I was not trying to pay with another reloadable or gift card. And I just went out and tried a fourth location and was successful purchasing the reload with the same credit card. So I guess this is a highly variable game from location to location, and over time apparently. Or CVS is changing their policies and it hasn't gotten to all the stores yet. Either way I'll survive because I am not in this game that deep.

Barry2013 Oct 17, 2013 2:33 pm

I got the same error that gil123 got. This was about an hour and a half ago trying to purchase one VR with a temporary MVD card that hasn't been activated on the website yet. I was under the impression it worked like a gift card before website activation. This was the first time I tried to do this with the temp MVD.

particlemn Oct 17, 2013 2:38 pm


Originally Posted by gil123 (Post 21624960)
No it was not a fraud alert, nowhere near my credit limit and I was not trying to pay with another reloadable or gift card. And I just went out and tried a fourth location and was successful purchasing the reload with the same credit card. So I guess this is a highly variable game from location to location, and over time apparently. Or CVS is changing their policies and it hasn't gotten to all the stores yet. Either way I'll survive because I am not in this game that deep.

each time i have gotten the "Alternate tender required" on the screen i swipe the same card again and it goes through no problems.

craz Oct 17, 2013 2:56 pm


Originally Posted by tuphat (Post 21623899)
@craz --

I feel confident that InComm has priced VRs appropriate to its market objectives. They aren't stupid.

And neither, maybe, is CVS. I don't believe they would continue to sell a product at a marginal loss, and "try to make it up on volume." They are undoubtedly getting slotting fees, discounts, etc. from InComm to at least cover their marginal costs.

If what you said is true then why has InComm closed up many of FTers,FWers & SDers MVD accts.

Now VRs can be used for loading other cards not only MVDs. Dont do this, but I bet you if you called up and asked if you were their target customer, youd be told no way and why are we allowing you to buy them if this is what you are doing with them

there are alot of factors involved but Loading and cashing out is something they are not looking for, especially when its done via MOs and CAs

craz Oct 17, 2013 3:00 pm


Originally Posted by particlemn (Post 21625026)
each time i have gotten the "Alternate tender required" on the screen i swipe the same card again and it goes through no problems.

was down South the past few days and p/u alot of VRs in several locations and didnt have any problems, with the exception that some stores held fast to a $1k limit. No problem as there were CVs 2 per corner, practically

TheDapperDon Oct 17, 2013 3:39 pm

I'm going to get some beans tonight. I'll report back.

tuphat Oct 17, 2013 5:18 pm


Originally Posted by craz (Post 21625128)
If what you said is true then why has InComm closed up many of FTers,FWers & SDers MVD accts.

Now VRs can be used for loading other cards not only MVDs. Dont do this, but I bet you if you called up and asked if you were their target customer, youd be told no way and why are we allowing you to buy them if this is what you are doing with them

there are alot of factors involved but Loading and cashing out is something they are not looking for, especially when its done via MOs and CAs

My observations were about the pricing of the VR product as sold in the store, not the "policing" of the reload able product.


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