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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
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 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
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 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
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 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
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 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
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 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
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Old Mar 24, 2018, 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
Most flights from the UK arrive at B gates which makes it a little more straightforward if connecting to another B gate. Just go through transfer security on arrival and go downstairs for the departure gate.

I have experience of arriving at every possible gate in FRA from the UK with the exception of AEUW (usually early morning flights) but I have no experience of connecting from ANS (A non-Schengen bus gate) to B non-Schengen. The escalators from ANS take you up to the unclean Z arrival level where you are directed to transfer security. I don't believe you can go to the Skyline shuttle platform from this level without going through security first. However, the Skyline shuttle itself is 'unclean' so on arrival in B you will have to clear security (again). The Skyline shuttle is the only way you can move between Z and B without entering Schengen but I have not travelled between Z and B in recent years (only B to Z ) and cannot tell exactly what to expect. About a week ago I did arrive on the Z (unclean) arrival level but after security I went through passport control down to A and did not use the Skyline shuttle.

I'd certainly be interested in hearing how you find your way from ANS to B31 if these are indeed your gates. Gate assignments can and do change at any time.
Just a follow up on my experience! Indeed the gates remained as they were at T-72, and we arrived at ANS, with my departure gate being B33 (bus gate). However, on arrival at ANS (after the bus journey back to the terminal), a Lufthansa member of staff had a sign with my flight number on it (and that of another flight number as well). It ended up being that myself and one other passenger were connecting to the B gates. So escorted by the memeber if staff we were led to a car, and whisked to what I believe was an A gate, where we were let in the terminal. From here, I followed the signs to the B gates, which involved taking the Skytrain (i believe that is what it is called). I continued to follow the signs for the B gates, and encountered transfer security (which was dead at that time of night). After I went through and found B33.

Have to say that the connection journey was very long and took about 45 minutes from plane door to B33. I was surprised at how much walking I had to do! My iPhone clocked 1.2 miles for the transfer! My first LH experience was nice (by intra-EU standards) but I have to say FRA (in my one experience) is not the most user friendly of airports to transfer at.

My return is coming up with a much more manageable BNS to B24 transfer! Thanks for your help @NewbieRunner !
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Old Mar 28, 2018, 9:39 am
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I am booked on IAH-FRA-VCE in business next week. Sadly, I don't think first class is going to open up for us. We have almost a 4 hour layover so I do have some questions.
1. I hear the arrivals lounge is nicer than the business lounge. Is this correct?
2. If 1 is correct, does it make sense to sleep through breakfast on the plane and have it in the arrivals lounge?
3. Which lounge is likely to be closest to the get for our FRA-VCE flight?
Thanks!
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Old Mar 28, 2018, 3:16 pm
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Originally Posted by NDtraveler
I am booked on IAH-FRA-VCE in business next week. Sadly, I don't think first class is going to open up for us. We have almost a 4 hour layover so I do have some questions.
1. I hear the arrivals lounge is nicer than the business lounge. Is this correct?
2. If 1 is correct, does it make sense to sleep through breakfast on the plane and have it in the arrivals lounge?
3. Which lounge is likely to be closest to the get for our FRA-VCE flight?
Thanks!
Hey NDtraveler,

Of course, it always depends on your priorities. The arrivals lounge wins (imho) in terms of food and shower availability. It loses in terms of view (there is none in the arrivals lounge) and ease of process as you have to go landside and later airside again (probably a non-issue with your length of layover).

I personally always prefer to have a full dinner and then sleep through breakfast on all but the longest TATL flights. And yes, the selection in the arrivals lounge is nicer than on the plane.

Just looked at the departure gates for LH 326 for three days - twice an A gate, once a low B gate. In all these cases I would visit one of the business lounges in A (either close to A13 or close to A26), albeit the walk from there to the B gates is a bit longer (and uses the A-B tunnel).

Hope this helps. Have safe travels

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Old Mar 28, 2018, 3:44 pm
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Originally Posted by NDtraveler
I am booked on IAH-FRA-VCE in business next week. Sadly, I don't think first class is going to open up for us. We have almost a 4 hour layover so I do have some questions.
1. I hear the arrivals lounge is nicer than the business lounge. Is this correct?
2. If 1 is correct, does it make sense to sleep through breakfast on the plane and have it in the arrivals lounge?
3. Which lounge is likely to be closest to the get for our FRA-VCE flight?
Thanks!
I don't know if I would say the Welcome Lounge is necessarily "nicer". The WL is a windowless facility on the arrivals level, and the furnishings are comparable to other C lounges.
That said, the spread (food selection/variety/quality) for breakfast in the WL is better than in the business lounges (better than the SEN lounges, too, for that matter), crowding is generally a lot less, and the odds of having to wait for a shower are very low, and you can have your clothes pressed as well while you shower.
Yes, it is necessary to go landside, but with a 4-hour connection, there is plenty of time.

Also IME, significant security delays at FRA, especially in the priority lines are rare (security lines do occasionally get really bad, but my experience is that onerous security at FRA is the exception and not the rule. I typically O&D at FRA, and I might be lucky, but I don't seem to have huge problems). It is a fairly short walk from the WL to the A gates (from where you will very likely be departing--simply go up to the departures level and follow the signs to A gates), and I would head back airside as soon as I was finished with breakfast and shower, since aside from a good breakfast and nice showers, the Welcome Lounge is not all that exciting, and there is also no view.

I don't know if you are arriving from IAH on LH441 or UA46, but if LH441, you might see a small surge in lounge crowd around arrival time (0800 to 0900). However, even when the WL is "crowded" it is rarely completely full, and there are still plenty of shower rooms. By 0930 or so, the crowds tend to moderate it again. If arriving on UA46, the crowd should be pretty thin.

FRA is generally my destination, and I make regular use of the Welcome Lounge to shower and eat before moving on with ground transport. It is a nice facility for breakfast and a shower. If you choose to use the WL, it does make sense to skip breakfast on-board and sleep as long as possible. That should net you another hour or so of sleep. Speaking for LH, make sure to tell your flight attendant you would like to skip breakfast, because otherwise there is a risk s/he will wake you up and ask if you want breakfast (assuming the lights and service noise in the cabin don't wake you up anyway ).
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Old Mar 28, 2018, 3:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Primenumber
Just looked at the departure gates for LH 326 for three days - twice an A gate, once a low B gate. In all these cases I would visit one of the business lounges in A (either close to A13 or close to A26), albeit the walk from there to the B gates is a bit longer (and uses the A-B tunnel).
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Primenumber brings up a good point here--you might get a B gate to VCE as well.

From the Welcome Lounge, the entrance at the B gates is probably closer than the A gates. Just go upstairs from the WL and follow the signs to B. Note however, there is no lounge in Schengen B, so if you want an airside lounge, factor in an extra 10 minutes walk (+/-, depending on pace) to reach the B gates from the nearest A lounges.

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Old Mar 28, 2018, 8:21 pm
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Thanks all! It is LH441. I appreciate the feedback and we will head to the WL for breakfast and a shower before heading to the B gates. There is still a small chance that first class opens up (at least 1 seat) which means we could end up in the FCT.
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Old Mar 29, 2018, 3:22 am
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If you are coming in over the Easter weekend or shortly thereafter, please be advised that security lines have been much longer lately due to security personnel illnesses and just the general higher Easter workload. I would check through the Frankfurt Airport app or their website how long the security lines actually are, before I go landside.
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Old Mar 29, 2018, 7:12 am
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Originally Posted by NDtraveler
...There is still a small chance that first class opens up (at least 1 seat) which means we could end up in the FCT.
Which would of course be by far the best option, especially for a long transfer. Good luck!
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Old Mar 29, 2018, 11:32 am
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Hi,

I have a IAD-FRA-ATH (all LH J) with a short connection time of about 90 minutes. Do I have to clear security in FRA again? with the short connection time, will I be able to use SEN lounge for a quick shower? I would arrive at the Z gates and ATH flight would be from A gates. Which lounge would be the least crowded during 0530-0600 time frame.

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Originally Posted by washingtonian_2017
Hi,

I have a IAD-FRA-ATH (all LH J) with a short connection time of about 90 minutes. Do I have to clear security in FRA again? with the short connection time, will I be able to use SEN lounge for a quick shower? I would arrive at the Z gates and ATH flight would be from A gates. Which lounge would be the least crowded during 0530-0600 time frame.

thanks
Hey washingtonian_2017,
I took a quick look at the LH timetable and couldn't find LH flights matching your times - so I assume you plan to be on LH 419 and 1278. 419 lands in FRA at 8:00am. Around that time showers could be in high demand. I would suggest you pass immigration and transfer security before entering a lounge and putting your name on the shower waitlist. The SEN lounge in A is the obvious choice for your location and status. The Business lounge at gate A26 is another option - maybe the waiting time is shorter there and/or that is closer to your ATH gate. Beware that the ATH flight may depart from a low B gate as well. In that case just plan about 10-15 extra walking minutes to your gate (from the A SEN lounge through the tunnel).
Hope this helps - have safe travels
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Old Mar 29, 2018, 1:02 pm
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Originally Posted by washingtonian_2017
Hi,

I have a IAD-FRA-ATH (all LH J) with a short connection time of about 90 minutes. Do I have to clear security in FRA again? with the short connection time, will I be able to use SEN lounge for a quick shower? I would arrive at the Z gates and ATH flight would be from A gates. Which lounge would be the least crowded during 0530-0600 time frame.

thanks
You will not have transfer security, but you will have to clear passport control.

Both A and Z Senator lounges have showers. I rarely use them (only when I arrive long-haul too late for the Welcome Lounge). There is sometimes a wait for a shower in the SEN lounges, due to limited number of shower rooms (maybe 3 or 4?), and the ability of staff to clean and turn around for the next guest.

90 minutes is not a very long connection to stop for a shower (even if you are very quick about it), but I suppose is doable if your arriving flight is on time, and there is a free shower room with no waiting.

What I would do (more experienced users of shower rooms in SEN A/Z lounges, please speak up, as I am not an expert here):
If your flight is early, or on-time, I would go to the Z SEN lounge and see if there is a wait for a shower. If no wait, I would take a very quick shower and then head to A via passport control and to your gate. If there is a wait in SEN Z, I would go directly to SEN A (get through passport control) and see if there is a shower available in A within a reasonable time. In either case, if you stop for a shower, there will be little time left for breakfast, so I would either eat on the arriving flight, or plan to grab something very quickly before heading for the gate, or wait for whatever sumptuous short haul tray is presented on the flight to ATH.

Another alternative is to head directly to SEN A upon arrival (removing the risk of getting caught at passport control), and if the wait for a shower is more than a few minutes in SEN A, enjoy coffee/breakfast in SEN A and then shower when you arrive in ATH.

In any case, a 90 minute transfer is to me cutting it close for a shower stop, and it will probably only work if your flight is on time or early, and there is no waiting for a shower room (in other words, if all goes nearly perfectly). I would not depend on getting a shower in FRA given the scheduled connection time, but it might work out for you.

Good luck.

Probably the worst scenario is to have a delay in Z getting a shower and then not have enough time to get through passport control to your gate in A. If you have bad luck and get stuck behind a crowd at passport control (if you have a non-EU passport, the risk is higher), you might be delayed as much as 20-30 minutes.
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Old Mar 29, 2018, 1:19 pm
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Originally Posted by N1003U
If your flight is early, or on-time, I would go to the Z SEN lounge and see if there is a wait for a shower. If no wait, I would take a very quick shower and then head to A via passport control and to your gate. If there is a wait in SEN Z, I would go directly to SEN A (get through passport control) and see if there is a shower available in A within a reasonable time. In either case, if you stop for a shower, there will be little time left for breakfast, so I would either eat on the arriving flight, or plan to grab something very quickly before heading for the gate, or wait for whatever sumptuous short haul tray is presented on the flight to ATH.
I would endorse this plan. 1h30 should be plenty of time for a shower if you can hop right in - although I've always been lucky with lines at passport control into A so I might not be properly accounting for the tail here.
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Originally Posted by washingtonian_2017
Hi,

I have a IAD-FRA-ATH (all LH J) with a short connection time of about 90 minutes. Do I have to clear security in FRA again? with the short connection time, will I be able to use SEN lounge for a quick shower? I would arrive at the Z gates and ATH flight would be from A gates. Which lounge would be the least crowded during 0530-0600 time frame.

thanks
One other option was suggested to me by someone experienced in FRA transfers (this option is especially attractive if you arrive into a Z15-Z26 gate):

Upon arrival, head for the passport control at the end of Z by Z25. Once you clear passport control (which is normally a one-way control into Schengen, and is not often crowded), turn left before you go down the stairs/escalator and you will be at the entrance of the business lounge above A26. This is an old F lounge and apparently has 6 showers. Early in the morning, the demand for showers there may be lower.
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Old Mar 29, 2018, 3:44 pm
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Originally Posted by N1003U
Upon arrival, head for the passport control at the end of Z by Z25. Once you clear passport control (which is normally a one-way control into Schengen, and is not often crowded), turn left before you go down the stairs/escalator and you will be at the entrance of the business lounge above A26. This is an old F lounge and apparently has 6 showers. Early in the morning, the demand for showers there may be lower.
I've tried to enter that lounge twice and both times once they saw I was *G I got directed to the SEN lounge.
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Old Mar 29, 2018, 3:59 pm
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Originally Posted by TomMM
I've tried to enter that lounge twice and both times once they saw I was *G I got directed to the SEN lounge.
Good to know. That's odd/interesting. It is a regular business lounge now, so *G is definitely allowed to access (although I have heard reports that even LH's own rules don't impress some lounge dragons). Maybe they thought they were doing you a favor? I suppose it also could be when things get crowded, they try to deflect folks to other lounges, and C lounges at FRA can get crazy. It has been years since I have entered an LH lounge with non-LH credentials. I have never had an issue as SEN entering at A26 since it has been a C lounge.
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