Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
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DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Apr 28, 2018, 4:42 pm
#4531
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If the flight from DME arrives at a remote stand (marked BNS on the flight status page of LH.com) a limo will pick you up from the apron to drive you to a bus arrival gate in B. Go through transfer security to the FCL B (above gate B22) or go through passport control and walk to the FCT.
May 4, 2018, 11:41 am
#4532
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Hi,
My parents are connecting at FRA soon. They arrive from PRG at 12:00 (LH 1393) and depart to BLR at 13:10. Indian citizens. My mother was given a Schengen visa exactly according to her dates so she absolutely must cross the border that day. Any tips for the connection? Should they use the tunnel or the official route? And if the tunnel, is it by gate A15?
Also, I assume there is no need to clear security again. Just immigration. Correct?
Thanks,
Ansh
My parents are connecting at FRA soon. They arrive from PRG at 12:00 (LH 1393) and depart to BLR at 13:10. Indian citizens. My mother was given a Schengen visa exactly according to her dates so she absolutely must cross the border that day. Any tips for the connection? Should they use the tunnel or the official route? And if the tunnel, is it by gate A15?
Also, I assume there is no need to clear security again. Just immigration. Correct?
Thanks,
Ansh
May 4, 2018, 1:08 pm
#4533
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Hi,
My parents are connecting at FRA soon. They arrive from PRG at 12:00 (LH 1393) and depart to BLR at 13:10. Indian citizens. My mother was given a Schengen visa exactly according to her dates so she absolutely must cross the border that day. Any tips for the connection? Should they use the tunnel or the official route? And if the tunnel, is it by gate A15?
Also, I assume there is no need to clear security again. Just immigration. Correct?
Thanks,
Ansh
My parents are connecting at FRA soon. They arrive from PRG at 12:00 (LH 1393) and depart to BLR at 13:10. Indian citizens. My mother was given a Schengen visa exactly according to her dates so she absolutely must cross the border that day. Any tips for the connection? Should they use the tunnel or the official route? And if the tunnel, is it by gate A15?
Also, I assume there is no need to clear security again. Just immigration. Correct?
Thanks,
Ansh
Immigration only, no security requirement.
May 4, 2018, 1:44 pm
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Hi,
My parents are connecting at FRA soon. They arrive from PRG at 12:00 (LH 1393) and depart to BLR at 13:10. Indian citizens. My mother was given a Schengen visa exactly according to her dates so she absolutely must cross the border that day. Any tips for the connection? Should they use the tunnel or the official route? And if the tunnel, is it by gate A15?
Also, I assume there is no need to clear security again. Just immigration. Correct?
Thanks,
Ansh
My parents are connecting at FRA soon. They arrive from PRG at 12:00 (LH 1393) and depart to BLR at 13:10. Indian citizens. My mother was given a Schengen visa exactly according to her dates so she absolutely must cross the border that day. Any tips for the connection? Should they use the tunnel or the official route? And if the tunnel, is it by gate A15?
Also, I assume there is no need to clear security again. Just immigration. Correct?
Thanks,
Ansh
1 hr 20 mins is rather tight for this connection. There are later LH flights to other cities in India but they all seem to depart wuthin 30 mins of each other. There is also an Air India flight to DEL in the evening with connections to BLR.
I hope your parents will make the connection but provided they are on a single ticket LH should take care of them.
May 4, 2018, 6:01 pm
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Thanks for your replies. Yes, all booked on a single ticket. I'm not worried about them getting on another flight or even problems at immigration (they may understand if my mother has to overstay due to a missed flight) but problems down the road applying for other Schengen visas.
My dad said he will try to see if he can change to an earlier flight leaving PRG.
In the worst case, let's say my parents have their BP for the FRA-BLR segment, and they're about to miss the flight due to a delay or whatever, it should still be possible to cross passport control and deal with the flight later, right? Even if they have to stay for, say, 24 hr, to wait for the next connection, it may be better in the long run.
My dad said he will try to see if he can change to an earlier flight leaving PRG.
In the worst case, let's say my parents have their BP for the FRA-BLR segment, and they're about to miss the flight due to a delay or whatever, it should still be possible to cross passport control and deal with the flight later, right? Even if they have to stay for, say, 24 hr, to wait for the next connection, it may be better in the long run.
May 4, 2018, 11:48 pm
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My dad said he will try to see if he can change to an earlier flight leaving PRG.
In the worst case, let's say my parents have their BP for the FRA-BLR segment, and they're about to miss the flight due to a delay or whatever, it should still be possible to cross passport control and deal with the flight later, right? Even if they have to stay for, say, 24 hr, to wait for the next connection, it may be better in the long run.
In the worst case, let's say my parents have their BP for the FRA-BLR segment, and they're about to miss the flight due to a delay or whatever, it should still be possible to cross passport control and deal with the flight later, right? Even if they have to stay for, say, 24 hr, to wait for the next connection, it may be better in the long run.
They should be able to go through passport control to leave Schengen even if they are about to miss their connection. If the worst comes to the worst and they miss their connection and have to wait until the following day there is now a transit hotel in non-Schengen (close to gate Z25) so they won’t have to spend the night on benches.
May 5, 2018, 8:48 am
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It will certainly be helpful if they can change to an earlier flight from PRG without having to pay a small fortune given your mother’s visa situation.
They should be able to go through passport control to leave Schengen even if they are about to miss their connection. If the worst comes to the worst and they miss their connection and have to wait until the following day there is now a transit hotel in non-Schengen (close to gate Z25) so they won’t have to spend the night on benches.
They should be able to go through passport control to leave Schengen even if they are about to miss their connection. If the worst comes to the worst and they miss their connection and have to wait until the following day there is now a transit hotel in non-Schengen (close to gate Z25) so they won’t have to spend the night on benches.
May 7, 2018, 2:45 pm
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Hello! I am trying to work out a question about the layout of the SkyLine in FRA terminal 1, concourse A/Z.
There are three platforms at this station; the two on the outer sides are connected to each other by a walkway and passengers can move freely. The middle platform can only be reached by disembarking from the SkyLine; from there, passengers go down a level, through security, and into the Z concourse. This middle platform is not accessible from landside; it is only for people who have gone through passport control.
The outer two (connected) platforms allow people to board the SkyLine and travel to concourses B,C,D,E landside stations. However, those platforms are not landside themselves; they are accessed from a transfer area (centered around the circular column of open space that also opens into the food & shops areas of A and Z on the levels below) that is also accessible only to people who have gone through passport control. Is that correct?
Also, are landside riders of the SkyLine able to be dropped off at the AZ SkyLine station, or can people only be dropped there in the airside section of the station?
There are three platforms at this station; the two on the outer sides are connected to each other by a walkway and passengers can move freely. The middle platform can only be reached by disembarking from the SkyLine; from there, passengers go down a level, through security, and into the Z concourse. This middle platform is not accessible from landside; it is only for people who have gone through passport control.
The outer two (connected) platforms allow people to board the SkyLine and travel to concourses B,C,D,E landside stations. However, those platforms are not landside themselves; they are accessed from a transfer area (centered around the circular column of open space that also opens into the food & shops areas of A and Z on the levels below) that is also accessible only to people who have gone through passport control. Is that correct?
Also, are landside riders of the SkyLine able to be dropped off at the AZ SkyLine station, or can people only be dropped there in the airside section of the station?
Last edited by jbLL; May 7, 2018 at 2:46 pm Reason: clarification
May 8, 2018, 7:11 am
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Hello! I am trying to work out a question about the layout of the SkyLine in FRA terminal 1, concourse A/Z.
There are three platforms at this station; the two on the outer sides are connected to each other by a walkway and passengers can move freely. The middle platform can only be reached by disembarking from the SkyLine; from there, passengers go down a level, through security, and into the Z concourse. This middle platform is not accessible from landside; it is only for people who have gone through passport control.
The outer two (connected) platforms allow people to board the SkyLine and travel to concourses B,C,D,E landside stations. However, those platforms are not landside themselves; they are accessed from a transfer area (centered around the circular column of open space that also opens into the food & shops areas of A and Z on the levels below) that is also accessible only to people who have gone through passport control. Is that correct?
Also, are landside riders of the SkyLine able to be dropped off at the AZ SkyLine station, or can people only be dropped there in the airside section of the station?
There are three platforms at this station; the two on the outer sides are connected to each other by a walkway and passengers can move freely. The middle platform can only be reached by disembarking from the SkyLine; from there, passengers go down a level, through security, and into the Z concourse. This middle platform is not accessible from landside; it is only for people who have gone through passport control.
The outer two (connected) platforms allow people to board the SkyLine and travel to concourses B,C,D,E landside stations. However, those platforms are not landside themselves; they are accessed from a transfer area (centered around the circular column of open space that also opens into the food & shops areas of A and Z on the levels below) that is also accessible only to people who have gone through passport control. Is that correct?
Also, are landside riders of the SkyLine able to be dropped off at the AZ SkyLine station, or can people only be dropped there in the airside section of the station?
Despite the number of times I've been through FRA I have only been on the Skyline 10 times or so and am not familiar with the Schengen side except between B and D/E.
All I know is there are two sections/carriages on the Skyline, Schengen and non-Schengen, so passengers cannot mix. There are separate platforms for Schengen and non-Schengen passengers. Another thing I know is the Skyline carriages are 'unclean'. Once you ride the Skyline shuttle you have to re-clear security. Some stops/platforms have limited access: e.g. I believe you cannot get off at Z without a BP for flights departing from Z and the stop for C is non-Schengen only.
The Skyline is most useful for passengers who need to transfer between terminals and concourses but cannot enter Schengen without a visa. It's also useful for moving between T2 and T1 (e.g. train stations) as the two are not connected (for passengers anyway).
I have not been to the Skyline platform for A but to answer one of your questions you will not have gone through passport control as it is in Schengen. I don't think landside/airside is a useful description to separate Skyline platforms. They are either in Schengen or non-Schengen. The Schengen platforms in B and D/E are completely landside. Anybody can ride the Skyline between those two stops.
May 8, 2018, 7:43 am
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Hi all.
So it seems that my LH 431 flight later this week is scheduled -- at least for now -- to arrive B28A
I'll need to connect to the B50s (now showing B54). I've never had to do this before. Can anyone tell me what the route is? Looking at the wiki and the first post, it seems there is no way around having to go through security? I very much prefer the Z to B transfer, as I can go through passport control twice and use the tunnel, and thus avoid security.
Why would the 748 from ORD arrive at an unclean B gate, anyway?
Thanks
So it seems that my LH 431 flight later this week is scheduled -- at least for now -- to arrive B28A
I'll need to connect to the B50s (now showing B54). I've never had to do this before. Can anyone tell me what the route is? Looking at the wiki and the first post, it seems there is no way around having to go through security? I very much prefer the Z to B transfer, as I can go through passport control twice and use the tunnel, and thus avoid security.Why would the 748 from ORD arrive at an unclean B gate, anyway?
Thanks
May 8, 2018, 8:00 am
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Hi all.
So it seems that my LH 431 flight later this week is scheduled -- at least for now -- to arrive B28A I'll need to connect to the B50s (now showing B54). I've never had to do this before. Can anyone tell me what the route is? Looking at the wiki and the first post, it seems there is no way around having to go through security? I very much prefer the Z to B transfer, as I can go through passport control twice and use the tunnel, and thus avoid security.
Why would the 748 from ORD arrive at an unclean B gate, anyway?
Thanks
So it seems that my LH 431 flight later this week is scheduled -- at least for now -- to arrive B28A
I'll need to connect to the B50s (now showing B54). I've never had to do this before. Can anyone tell me what the route is? Looking at the wiki and the first post, it seems there is no way around having to go through security? I very much prefer the Z to B transfer, as I can go through passport control twice and use the tunnel, and thus avoid security.Why would the 748 from ORD arrive at an unclean B gate, anyway?
Thanks
After arriving at B28A there is only one way to the transfer area, go through transfer security and go downstairs. B54 is a bus gate so you will have to go all the way down to the bus gate area.
Last edited by NewbieRunner; May 8, 2018 at 8:13 am
May 8, 2018, 8:10 am
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A good question! Arrival gates are often determined by not where the aircraft came from but where it is going next. Since flight arrval/departure times are similar on most days it shouldn't change from day to day but it does.
After arriving at B28A there is only one way to the transfer area, go through transfer security and go downstairs. B54 is a bus gate so you will have to go all the way down to the bus gate area.
After arriving at B28A there is only one way to the transfer area, go through transfer security and go downstairs. B54 is a bus gate so you will have to go all the way down to the bus gate area.
Which lounge in B do you recommend?
May 8, 2018, 8:17 am
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Thank you for the info! One thing to note; there is one single station for AZ concourse, not two separate ones. I'm just trying to work out how it connects with the others. The confusing thing is that I am pretty sure people can board at AZ, in what must be a non-Schengen area (i.e., an area which people must have passed a passport control to access) and disembark at Schengen (i.e., completely landside, accessible to anyone coming from the street) stations at B or DE.
I am also still unsure about whether any passengers are able to disembark at the outer two platforms of AZ, which would allow them to enter the level 4 transfer area above the A and Z food & shopping areas (I wanted to attach a screenshot from FRA's online map, but could not as I don't have enough posts yet...however, if you find their interactive map and look at level 4 above the AZ concourse, you'll see what I mean) and then go down the stairs to the Z security checkpoint. Or, maybe more likely, people can only disembark at AZ in the center platform, which is physically separated from the transfer area mention, and then they must go down a level and through a security checkpoint in order to enter the Z gates.
If anyone has knowledge of how this works it's very much appreciated! It seems it's a mystery to many among the airport staff as well...
I am also still unsure about whether any passengers are able to disembark at the outer two platforms of AZ, which would allow them to enter the level 4 transfer area above the A and Z food & shopping areas (I wanted to attach a screenshot from FRA's online map, but could not as I don't have enough posts yet...however, if you find their interactive map and look at level 4 above the AZ concourse, you'll see what I mean) and then go down the stairs to the Z security checkpoint. Or, maybe more likely, people can only disembark at AZ in the center platform, which is physically separated from the transfer area mention, and then they must go down a level and through a security checkpoint in order to enter the Z gates.
If anyone has knowledge of how this works it's very much appreciated! It seems it's a mystery to many among the airport staff as well...
Welcome to FlyerTalk, jbLL!
Despite the number of times I've been through FRA I have only been on the Skyline 10 times or so and am not familiar with the Schengen side except between B and D/E.
All I know is there are two sections/carriages on the Skyline, Schengen and non-Schengen, so passengers cannot mix. There are separate platforms for Schengen and non-Schengen passengers. Another thing I know is the Skyline carriages are 'unclean'. Once you ride the Skyline shuttle you have to re-clear security. Some stops/platforms have limited access: e.g. I believe you cannot get off at Z without a BP for flights departing from Z and the stop for C is non-Schengen only.
The Skyline is most useful for passengers who need to transfer between terminals and concourses but cannot enter Schengen without a visa. It's also useful for moving between T2 and T1 (e.g. train stations) as the two are not connected (for passengers anyway).
I have not been to the Skyline platform for A but to answer one of your questions you will not have gone through passport control as it is in Schengen. I don't think landside/airside is a useful description to separate Skyline platforms. They are either in Schengen or non-Schengen. The Schengen platforms in B and D/E are completely landside. Anybody can ride the Skyline between those two stops.
Despite the number of times I've been through FRA I have only been on the Skyline 10 times or so and am not familiar with the Schengen side except between B and D/E.
All I know is there are two sections/carriages on the Skyline, Schengen and non-Schengen, so passengers cannot mix. There are separate platforms for Schengen and non-Schengen passengers. Another thing I know is the Skyline carriages are 'unclean'. Once you ride the Skyline shuttle you have to re-clear security. Some stops/platforms have limited access: e.g. I believe you cannot get off at Z without a BP for flights departing from Z and the stop for C is non-Schengen only.
The Skyline is most useful for passengers who need to transfer between terminals and concourses but cannot enter Schengen without a visa. It's also useful for moving between T2 and T1 (e.g. train stations) as the two are not connected (for passengers anyway).
I have not been to the Skyline platform for A but to answer one of your questions you will not have gone through passport control as it is in Schengen. I don't think landside/airside is a useful description to separate Skyline platforms. They are either in Schengen or non-Schengen. The Schengen platforms in B and D/E are completely landside. Anybody can ride the Skyline between those two stops.
May 8, 2018, 8:28 am
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May 8, 2018, 8:29 am
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Thank you for the info! One thing to note; there is one single station for AZ concourse, not two separate ones. I'm just trying to work out how it connects with the others. The confusing thing is that I am pretty sure people can board at AZ, in what must be a non-Schengen area (i.e., an area which people must have passed a passport control to access) and disembark at Schengen (i.e., completely landside, accessible to anyone coming from the street) stations at B or DE.
I haven't used the train in a while, but I can confirm it's not clean, and that you never cross border in-train.
FWIW I have travelled A to Schengen T2 (D), passport control, non-Schengen lounge in D, back on the train to Z. Security was I think only in Z, but once you reach the Schengen platform, you are "landside" e.g. if you tried to go back to A, there;s security.