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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
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 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
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 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
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 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
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 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
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Old May 28, 2018, 12:20 pm
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
Interesting. So they must be using a bus gate in B as a secure non-Schengen (arrival) gate. I hope FRAport/LH will do more to avoid/reduce unnecessary transfer security.
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Old May 29, 2018, 2:39 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
Interesting. So they must be using a bus gate in B as a secure non-Schengen (arrival) gate. I hope FRAport/LH will do more to avoid/reduce unnecessary transfer security.
Yes, exactly. I turned left after walking from the Z wing that is restricted to US-bound flights, following the signs, and came across a temporary sign post in the middle of the concourse. Where before you would keep going, out of security along with foot traffic bound for baggage claim, and then circle back around to the Z Skyline station for a transfer to B non-airside, instead I found this temporary sign across from Z11. Turn left to go to Schengen passport (and A), turn right to go down the stairs to the tarmac and a bus transfer to a bus gate in B.

It all felt very temporary? Perhaps a test? It was so much dramatically faster a transfer. ^
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Old May 29, 2018, 4:02 am
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Originally Posted by symphonicman
Yes, exactly. I turned left after walking from the Z wing that is restricted to US-bound flights, following the signs, and came across a temporary sign post in the middle of the concourse. Where before you would keep going, out of security along with foot traffic bound for baggage claim, and then circle back around to the Z Skyline station for a transfer to B non-airside, instead I found this temporary sign across from Z11. Turn left to go to Schengen passport (and A), turn right to go down the stairs to the tarmac and a bus transfer to a bus gate in B.

It all felt very temporary? Perhaps a test? It was so much dramatically faster a transfer. ^
I've noticed recently they may indeed be testing different non-Schengen arrival options. Some flights from the US are arriving at AEUW allowing passengers to enter the terminal behind security just like arrivals at Zxx (rather than ZxxA) gates.

I've also noticed most flights from the UK are arriving at ANS or B gates. Many morning flights from the UK used to arrive at AEUW but I haven't seen any for a while. Instead AEUW seems to be used for US arrivals.

Good news for some but not so good news for others.
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Hey! So I'm flying Lufthansa for the first time next week and I'm trying to figure out which part of Frankfurt airport I'll be in. Usually I've been able to find approximate gate information for other airlines in the past. My ticket information just has this vague reference to Terminal 1. My flights are from Billund-Frankfurt, Frankfurt-Naples with a 4hr40 layover. I'm trying to make some plans for what to do with that layover so I'm trying to figure out what exactly I'll have access to during that time and if I'll go through security again... so, any ideas where I'd be able to find out which gates (A, Z, B, C, D, E? I've never been there - I have no idea which gates are Schengen or likely connecting Billund and Naples)? Or, better yet, anyone who has flown these routes have an idea which gates they typically arrive in and depart from? I feel like I'm missing something when I've been trying to find information about this.
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Originally Posted by AStarr
Hey! So I'm flying Lufthansa for the first time next week and I'm trying to figure out which part of Frankfurt airport I'll be in. Usually I've been able to find approximate gate information for other airlines in the past. My ticket information just has this vague reference to Terminal 1. My flights are from Billund-Frankfurt, Frankfurt-Naples with a 4hr40 layover. I'm trying to make some plans for what to do with that layover so I'm trying to figure out what exactly I'll have access to during that time and if I'll go through security again... so, any ideas where I'd be able to find out which gates (A, Z, B, C, D, E? I've never been there - I have no idea which gates are Schengen or likely connecting Billund and Naples)? Or, better yet, anyone who has flown these routes have an idea which gates they typically arrive in and depart from? I feel like I'm missing something when I've been trying to find information about this.

Lufthansa uses T1 and it's not always possible to know in advance which concourse will be used. Besides they all connect to a single point landside anyway, so for arriving nor departing passengers it makes no difference.

In your case you'll be doing Schengen to Schengen, in all probability A to A, possibly bus gates for A.
Unless you get lost, you shan't need go through security.

Not sure what your plan would be, it's too short to go to the city I'd say, but if you want to see if you can access like PriorityPass lounges, T2 is readily available at the cost of transfer security check, and possibly passport check depending on whether you go for the Skyy Lounge.
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Originally Posted by Fabo.sk
Lufthansa uses T1 and it's not always possible to know in advance which concourse will be used. Besides they all connect to a single point landside anyway, so for arriving nor departing passengers it makes no difference.

In your case you'll be doing Schengen to Schengen, in all probability A to A, possibly bus gates for A.
Unless you get lost, you shan't need go through security.

Not sure what your plan would be, it's too short to go to the city I'd say, but if you want to see if you can access like PriorityPass lounges, T2 is readily available at the cost of transfer security check, and possibly passport check depending on whether you go for the Skyy Lounge.
Thanks! I know I'll have access to a fair amount lounges as far as I can tell. I have Priority Pass and I'm flying in business as a Star Alliance Gold member. It's mostly a matter of which side of the airport I'll be on (and if I can chase down anywhere for a rather necessary last minute pedicure because I'll have the time during the layover but not in the days before flying).

I'd prefer to avoid any unnecessary additional security and passport checks if possible (saving page space).
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Originally Posted by AStarr
Thanks! I know I'll have access to a fair amount lounges as far as I can tell. I have Priority Pass and I'm flying in business as a Star Alliance Gold member. It's mostly a matter of which side of the airport I'll be on (and if I can chase down anywhere for a rather necessary last minute pedicure because I'll have the time during the layover but not in the days before flying).

I'd prefer to avoid any unnecessary additional security and passport checks if possible (saving page space).
No stamps in the automatic machines (assuming you are EU citizen).

Either way if you are *G in J there is 0 worth in your going to T2.

So it's a question of where exactly will your flight will arrive and leave from, I'll hazard a guess at leaving from A, arrival, probably a bus gate, A or B... either way. Between A and B use the tunnel, NOT the train and you should be fine without transfer security.
Don't know about pedicure, but lounge you have a choice of any Lufthansa Senator or Business lounge that works well for you. Presumably Senator in A will be optimal.
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I'd prefer to avoid any unnecessary additional security and passport checks if possible (saving page space).
[Assuming you are a non-EU passport holder (hence your concern about space saving)], you will not go through border checks travelling from Denmark to Italy via Germany, your passports won’t even be checked at the gate in FRA (it will in NAP on your way back, though).

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Originally Posted by Fabo.sk
No stamps in the automatic machines (assuming you are EU citizen).

Either way if you are *G in J there is 0 worth in your going to T2.

So it's a question of where exactly will your flight will arrive and leave from, I'll hazard a guess at leaving from A, arrival, probably a bus gate, A or B... either way. Between A and B use the tunnel, NOT the train and you should be fine without transfer security.
Don't know about pedicure, but lounge you have a choice of any Lufthansa Senator or Business lounge that works well for you. Presumably Senator in A will be optimal.
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[Assuming you are a non-EU passport holder ([b]hence your concern about space saving)], you will not go through border checks travelling from Denmark to Italy via Germany, your passports won’t even be checked at the gate in FRA (it will in NAP on your way back, though).

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Bus gates are no problem. I walk to the plane at AAR and ride a bus around CPH after landing all the time. That's not a big deal. It's nice to watch all the planes going to all the fun places.

Good to know at about NAP. I'm not into surprise stamps given the rate I go through passports these days. The joys of being a US citizen residing in both Denmark and the UK with more residency visas on the way... oof. Now to scour the airport website for shops and services for that pedicure because I know I can't get one in BLL... I appreciate the info! Will keep the tunnel in mind. Thanks a million!
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Originally Posted by AStarr
Hey! So I'm flying Lufthansa for the first time next week and I'm trying to figure out which part of Frankfurt airport I'll be in. Usually I've been able to find approximate gate information for other airlines in the past. My ticket information just has this vague reference to Terminal 1. My flights are from Billund-Frankfurt, Frankfurt-Naples with a 4hr40 layover. I'm trying to make some plans for what to do with that layover so I'm trying to figure out what exactly I'll have access to during that time and if I'll go through security again... so, any ideas where I'd be able to find out which gates (A, Z, B, C, D, E? I've never been there - I have no idea which gates are Schengen or likely connecting Billund and Naples)? Or, better yet, anyone who has flown these routes have an idea which gates they typically arrive in and depart from? I feel like I'm missing something when I've been trying to find information about this.
Check the first post in this thread for how to find out arrival and departure gates for your flights on recent days.
https://www.lufthansa.com/online/por...en&cid=1000243

As others have already said you are likely to arrive and depart in A or possibly B Schengen. The best lounge for you is the Senator Lounge between the duty free shops and A50 which is better than business lounges though the Business Lounge above gate A26 is nice and convenient if your flight departs from A24-42 gates. Note that there is no lounge near B Schengen departure gates.

Check the first post also to find which are bus gates.
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Check the first post in this thread for how to find out arrival and departure gates for your flights on recent days.
https://www.lufthansa.com/online/por...en&cid=1000243

As others have already said you are likely to arrive and depart in A or possibly B Schengen. The best lounge for you is the Senator Lounge between the duty free shops and A50 which is better than business lounges though the Business Lounge above gate A26 is nice and convenient if your flight departs from A24-42 gates. Note that there is no lounge near B Schengen departure gates.

Check the first post also to find which are bus gates.
No bus gate. Pedicure plans totally thwarted. Both passport control agents at B and Z will not let me leave the A gate area. Kind of sucks. Glad l packed nail polish. Now to kill 4 hours... Senator lounge and Caviar House it is.
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No bus gate. Pedicure plans totally thwarted. Both passport control agents at B and Z will not let me leave the A gate area. Kind of sucks. Glad l packed nail polish. Now to kill 4 hours... Senator lounge and Caviar House it is.
Can't you go to this place if pedicure is what you want? It's in A but looks landside so you will have to clear security afterwards.

https://shop.frankfurt-airport.com/e...t-nail-lounge/
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Can't you go to this place if pedicure is what you want? It's in A but looks landside so you will have to clear security afterwards.

https://shop.frankfurt-airport.com/e...t-nail-lounge/
That's the next plan. Otherwise I'm raiding the rose' here... the jolly stroll to the B gates was entertaining. Nice tunnel. Much more fun than wasting time in LHR.
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That's the next plan. Otherwise I'm raiding the rose' here... the jolly stroll to the B gates was entertaining. Nice tunnel. Much more fun than wasting time in LHR.
Rose' and chill wins. My ability to kill time is phenomenal.
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That's the next plan. Otherwise I'm raiding the rose' here... the jolly stroll to the B gates was entertaining. Nice tunnel. Much more fun than wasting time in LHR.
You must be one of the very few people, if not the only one in this forum, who think the tunnel is nice. It’s commonly known as the tunnel of horror.
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