Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Aug 11, 2018, 11:35 am
#4741
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Only tip I can provide is to clear immigration near Z25. Never much of a wait there.
Aug 11, 2018, 11:41 am
#4742
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Aug 11, 2018, 11:53 am
#4743
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I'm flying into Z22 with a one hour connection at A36
Is it a relatively quick route? The wiki says Z gates are above the A gates, any tips would be great
Edit: I'm assuming there will be passport control as I'm entering the EU, is there anything else to expect? Another one for flying from FRA -> CDG? Security?
Is it a relatively quick route? The wiki says Z gates are above the A gates, any tips would be great
Edit: I'm assuming there will be passport control as I'm entering the EU, is there anything else to expect? Another one for flying from FRA -> CDG? Security?
As far as I know Z25 passport control is only open at certain times of the day.
After passport control (either near Z13 or Z25) go downstairs and you will be in the A departure area. Assuming you are arriving from the US, UK, Canada or Singapore, there is no need to re-clear security.
Aug 11, 2018, 12:00 pm
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Bear in mind that both arrival and departure gates can and do change on the day of travel.
As far as I know Z25 passport control is only open at certain times of the day.
After passport control (either near Z13 or Z25) go downstairs and you will be in the A departure area. Assuming you are arriving from the US, UK, Canada or Singapore, there is no need to re-clear security.
As far as I know Z25 passport control is only open at certain times of the day.
After passport control (either near Z13 or Z25) go downstairs and you will be in the A departure area. Assuming you are arriving from the US, UK, Canada or Singapore, there is no need to re-clear security.
Oh, is there anywhere I can find out if Z25 passport control will be open? I arrive at like.. 8am
Aug 11, 2018, 12:45 pm
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Here’s a map of the Z concourse (Z13-Z25) from FRA airport app.
Aug 11, 2018, 12:51 pm
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Perfect! I’m on LH471! Thanks for the info, and I guess after passport control, just grab an elevator down a floor and I’m good to go!
Thanks a bunch! Off to the airport now!
Thanks a bunch! Off to the airport now!
Aug 11, 2018, 2:37 pm
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Well. Follow up, looks like my LH 471 YYZ > FRA Is delayed by an hour, so I will almost certainly miss my connection (even if I somehow make it, my bag definitely wont). Really ...... situation, I’ll be able to get LH1034 (instead of 1030), and I’ll have to call my car rental company to tell them I’ll be late I guess.
Aug 11, 2018, 3:10 pm
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Well. Follow up, looks like my LH 471 YYZ > FRA Is delayed by an hour, so I will almost certainly miss my connection (even if I somehow make it, my bag definitely wont). Really ...... situation, I’ll be able to get LH1034 (instead of 1030), and I’ll have to call my car rental company to tell them I’ll be late I guess.
Aug 14, 2018, 9:03 pm
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Transiting Frankfurt With a Tight Connection on Star Alliance
Later this month, my parents are flying Lufthansa (business class, fortunately) DFW-FRA and then FRA-TLL. They have a 65 minute connection in Frankfurt. Will this be enough time?
From what I can tell they will arrive and depart in A,B, or Z. It appears that you can stay inside security within these terminals. Is that correct? It looks like terminals A and Z are next to each other within the same security zone. And then it looks like there is a tunnel (walking, train, moving sidewalks?) from A/Z over to B.
I would greatly appreciate any insight into this transfer. Also, is it worth paying the 120 Euros for gate to gate service?
From what I can tell they will arrive and depart in A,B, or Z. It appears that you can stay inside security within these terminals. Is that correct? It looks like terminals A and Z are next to each other within the same security zone. And then it looks like there is a tunnel (walking, train, moving sidewalks?) from A/Z over to B.
I would greatly appreciate any insight into this transfer. Also, is it worth paying the 120 Euros for gate to gate service?
Aug 14, 2018, 9:51 pm
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Your parents will arrive at Terminal A, or, possibly at a parking stand and be bussed. This can cause a delay. Then they need to go through a passport check. Another possibility for delay, particularly if arriving in the morning when so many other international flights arrive. Then they could depart out of A or B. B could could involve a bus ride.
65 minutes is tight. If they have any mobility issues, or difficulties (like unfamiliarity)moving through the process, 65 minutes can go very fast. That is why 90 minutes is the common recommendation for transit.
Have to say we did SFO-FRA-CPH in 40 minutes, with passport check and Terminal B bus ride. But we were late, absolutely no line in Immigration, and we have transited FRA probably a dozen times. We were in Business, and about the first off the plane at a gate...no parking away. We were the last on our CPH flight.
65 minutes is tight. If they have any mobility issues, or difficulties (like unfamiliarity)moving through the process, 65 minutes can go very fast. That is why 90 minutes is the common recommendation for transit.
Have to say we did SFO-FRA-CPH in 40 minutes, with passport check and Terminal B bus ride. But we were late, absolutely no line in Immigration, and we have transited FRA probably a dozen times. We were in Business, and about the first off the plane at a gate...no parking away. We were the last on our CPH flight.
Aug 14, 2018, 9:59 pm
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As these are LH flights, will move this to the LH Forum
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Aug 15, 2018, 12:05 am
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Your parents will arrive at Terminal A, or, possibly at a parking stand and be bussed. This can cause a delay. Then they need to go through a passport check. Another possibility for delay, particularly if arriving in the morning when so many other international flights arrive. Then they could depart out of A or B. B could could involve a bus ride.
65 minutes is tight. If they have any mobility issues, or difficulties (like unfamiliarity)moving through the process, 65 minutes can go very fast. That is why 90 minutes is the common recommendation for transit.
Have to say we did SFO-FRA-CPH in 40 minutes, with passport check and Terminal B bus ride. But we were late, absolutely no line in Immigration, and we have transited FRA probably a dozen times. We were in Business, and about the first off the plane at a gate...no parking away. We were the last on our CPH flight.
65 minutes is tight. If they have any mobility issues, or difficulties (like unfamiliarity)moving through the process, 65 minutes can go very fast. That is why 90 minutes is the common recommendation for transit.
Have to say we did SFO-FRA-CPH in 40 minutes, with passport check and Terminal B bus ride. But we were late, absolutely no line in Immigration, and we have transited FRA probably a dozen times. We were in Business, and about the first off the plane at a gate...no parking away. We were the last on our CPH flight.
I'm not usually one to suggest spending any extra money, but given this scenario the gate to gate service might be a prudent investment. It will feel like a waste of money after the fact when everything goes smoothly, but if you don't do it and something goes wrong you'll really be kicking yourself!
Aug 15, 2018, 12:24 am
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FRA is very complicated for transfers & no guarantees on arrival & departing gates plus unessesary security for transit is a possibility.
If they have any mobility issues or are nervous about the connection paying for the transfer assistance is probably a wise move.
If they have any mobility issues or are nervous about the connection paying for the transfer assistance is probably a wise move.
Aug 15, 2018, 1:01 am
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My JFK FRA flights usually land at the Z gates— once C
The DFW to FRA flight 439 departing on the 14th will arrive at Z19 on the 15th.
So much depends on the lines at passport control in terms of transfer times.
Many first time travelers find FRA confusing.
i think the transfer may be a good idea.
The DFW to FRA flight 439 departing on the 14th will arrive at Z19 on the 15th.
So much depends on the lines at passport control in terms of transfer times.
Many first time travelers find FRA confusing.
i think the transfer may be a good idea.
Last edited by arttravel; Aug 15, 2018 at 1:09 am Reason: Edit
Aug 15, 2018, 2:06 am
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It is doable but, as others have pointed out, Frankfurt can throw a few spanners at you. You may be at a remote gate, you may have to go through transfer security. Immigration lines could be long. I suggest reading up on the connections thread, but I suspect that this might be a bit overwhelming for older people. Are they on one continuous ticket or two?