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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old May 15, 2018, 9:02 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
If your flight arrives at a Z gate go through passport control to Pier A downstairs and go to the FCL A between the duty free shop and gate A13. Since Singapore is now a “clean” country for security purposes there is no need to clear transfer security. If your flight to Krakow leaves from a B Schengen gate (a bus gate) they will drive you to your plane from the FCL.

LH779 seems to arrive at a C gate on some days. In that case I’d go through passport control and walk to the FCT to avoid having to go through security in the main terminal.
Thanks for the info. I forgot to mention that although I'm booked on F, the FRA-KRK segment doesn't have an F class, so I'll be travelling on J for that leg. Will I still be able to go into either the FCL or FCT?
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Originally Posted by vade


Thanks for the info. I forgot to mention that although I'm booked on F, the FRA-KRK segment doesn't have an F class, so I'll be travelling on J for that leg. Will I still be able to go into either the FCL or FCT?
Yes, the FCT provided both flights are on a single ticket. The FCL whether on one or separate tickets.
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Old May 15, 2018, 10:27 am
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Originally Posted by vade


Thanks for the info. I forgot to mention that although I'm booked on F, the FRA-KRK segment doesn't have an F class, so I'll be travelling on J for that leg. Will I still be able to go into either the FCL or FCT?
I would head to FCT, they will drive you to the plane for FRA-KRK

If you head to FCL A & they will not drive you to the plane.

If you go to FCL B they will also drive you but you must clear transit security.
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Old May 15, 2018, 11:15 am
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Originally Posted by chris63
If you head to FCL A & they will not drive you to the plane.

If you go to FCL B they will also drive you but you must clear transit security.
They used to drive you to the plane to a Schengen destination from the FCL A if it was leaving from a remote stand. I thought B Schengen gates were bus gates and they drove you to your plane to Krakow if it's not a LOT flight. Has it changed?

Since SIN is now a "clean" country flights from SIN arrive at Z gates just like flights from the US. So you can go to the FCL B by going through passport control twice. But I don't think they'll drive you from the FCL B to a flight to Krakow, Poland which is in Schengen.
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
They used to drive you to the plane to a Schengen destination from the FCL A if it was leaving from a remote stand. I thought B Schengen gates were bus gates and they drove you to your plane to Krakow if it's not a LOT flight. Has it changed?

Since SIN is now a "clean" country flights from SIN arrive at Z gates just like flights from the US. So you can go to the FCL B by going through passport control twice. But I don't think they'll drive you from the FCL B to a flight to Krakow, Poland which is in Schengen.
I have never been offered a car from FCLA, always been advised to go to FCT or FCLB.

Yes, SIN is ‘clean’ arrival but if your in FCLB my understanding is car to plane unless it departs from a B gate.

FRA is so complex & ever changing, if arriving & connecting in F, FCT remains a failsafe.
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Old May 16, 2018, 1:54 am
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@chris63, @NewbieRunner, thanks for all your inputs!

Both flights are on a single ticket, so I guess I should be able to access the FCT then. Will they be able to check this from my boarding pass? Or do I need to show them my ticket?

From what I can understand, it seems like going to the FCT is my best bet. So regardless whether my flight arrives at Pier C or Pier Z, I should just go through passport control, exit the terminal, turn left, walk past the taxi stands and to the FCT?

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From what I can understand, it seems like going to the FCT is my best bet. If my flight arrives at Pier C, then I should go through passport control and walk to the FCT to avoid having to go through security in the main terminal. How about if my flight arrives at Pier Z? What's the best way to get to the FCT?
Head for baggage claim (this will take you through passport control), exit onto the street and turn left. Same as for C, but only a shorter walk essentially.
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Originally Posted by vade
@chris63, @NewbieRunner, thanks for all your inputs!

Both flights are on a single ticket, so I guess I should be able to access the FCT then. Will they be able to check this from my boarding pass? Or do I need to show them my ticket?
No need to show them anything other than the BP from your SIN-FRA flight. They can see all the information online.
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Originally Posted by chris63
I have never been offered a car from FCLA, always been advised to go to FCT or FCLB.
This is what LH.com says about the limousine service on departure from FRA.

"Whether you are waiting for your flight in the Lufthansa First Class Terminal or in our First Class Lounge in Pier B, the limousine service is available to you in cooperation with our partners Austrian Airlines Group and SWISS. It applies to Lufthansa flights to non-Schengen and non-EU countries that are taking off from a non-gate position from Departure Area B or from Piers Z or C. From the First Class Lounge in Pier A, the limousine service is also available for Lufthansa flights to Schengen countries that are departing from a non-gate position. If you are waiting in the First Class Terminal at Frankfurt, a limousine will take you directly to your aircraft in any event."

https://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/Firs...ousine-Service

As an aside when the current FCL A first opened there was a plan to drive passengers on flights to Schengen destinations departing from gates A26-42 as well as non-gate positions. They soon concluded it was too complex to operate the service for gates A26-42 departures and this part of the arrangement has been abandoned.
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How often do UK flights leave from Z gates? I’m so used to B departures to EDI, I’m surprised I will have to use Z SEN lounge than B and AC lounge.
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
This is what LH.com says about the limousine service on departure from FRA.

"Whether you are waiting for your flight in the Lufthansa First Class Terminal or in our First Class Lounge in Pier B, the limousine service is available to you in cooperation with our partners Austrian Airlines Group and SWISS. It applies to Lufthansa flights to non-Schengen and non-EU countries that are taking off from a non-gate position from Departure Area B or from Piers Z or C. From the First Class Lounge in Pier A, the limousine service is also available for Lufthansa flights to Schengen countries that are departing from a non-gate position. If you are waiting in the First Class Terminal at Frankfurt, a limousine will take you directly to your aircraft in any event."

https://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/Firs...ousine-Service

As an aside when the current FCL A first opened there was a plan to drive passengers on flights to Schengen destinations departing from gates A26-42 as well as non-gate positions. They soon concluded it was too complex to operate the service for gates A26-42 departures and this part of the arrangement has been abandoned.
Thanks, interesting.

I will ask them next time I’m there.

Problem with outside positions is it could change to a gate, had that a few times in B lounge & then you have to walk & line up with the mob .......
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How often do UK flights leave from Z gates? I’m so used to B departures to EDI, I’m surprised I will have to use Z SEN lounge than B and AC lounge.
Not that often & gates can change last minute at FRA.
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Originally Posted by hugolover
How often do UK flights leave from Z gates? I’m so used to B departures to EDI, I’m surprised I will have to use Z SEN lounge than B and AC lounge.
It happened to me a few times on flights to MAN and always in the evening. It’s strange to be sitting in an A321 right next to an A380.
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
It happened to me a few times on flights to MAN and always in the evening. It’s strange to be sitting in an A321 right next to an A380.
We seem to be getting more A320.

It was a very short ride from FCT to go to A321 to MAN at Z gates.
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Originally Posted by chris63
We seem to be getting more A320.
Possibly but there are now 5 daily flights instead of 4.
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