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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Nov 12, 2017, 1:28 am
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Originally Posted by yosemite1
Looking for some advice on my connection tomorrow.

LH Flight BCN > FRA arriving at A16
AC Flight FRA > YYZ "departing at terminal 1" with no gate info this early

I only have an hour, historically my AC flight departs at B48 or around there.

Think I can make this happen in an hour?
Yes, AC flights usually leave from B gates. You are in luck if your flight from BCN arrives at A16 which is very close to the elevator down to the tunnel. Follow the signs for B, walk through the tunnel and clear passport control at the end. Unless your flight from BCN is late you値l be fine.
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Planning on a trip next summer from New Orleans on Condor, switching to Lufthansa at FRA and heading to either Nice or Brussels. The Condor flights from MSY arrive around 10:40 AM. How much time should I leave for the transfer?
On different tickets, I assume?

For me personally, it would make a difference whether the second flight is to NCE or to BRU. I'd be more aggressive with BRU. The reason being that high-speed trains FRA-BRU run regularly, and last-minute train tickets aren't that expensive. So if you miss a flight FRA-BRU, you have a back-up plan which isn't terribly bad financially.

With FRA-NCE on separate tickets, I'd leave three hours to be on the safe side. Perhaps 2 1/2 is fine, assuming the punctuality record of your Condor flight looks all right (check flightradar24 or similar)

And what exactly is Schengen?
A town in Luxemburg. The term is used here as a reference to the Schengen agreement. Wikipedia is your friend.
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Old Nov 12, 2017, 7:27 am
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A town in Luxemburg.
A village, even by Luxembourg standards.
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Old Nov 12, 2017, 9:03 am
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Originally Posted by howahya
And what exactly is Schengen?
Check also the first post of this thread.
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I checked the first post, but it's from 2009 so I figure the airport will have changed a bit since then.
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
Yes, AC flights usually leave from B gates. You are in luck if your flight from BCN arrives at A16 which is very close to the elevator down to the tunnel. Follow the signs for B, walk through the tunnel and clear passport control at the end. Unless your flight from BCN is late you値l be fine.

Thanks!
looks like my arrival gate got changed to A30, but I'll just have to walk fast and find the tunnel. I noted down the info from the OP for the location.

Connections shouldn't be this stressful :P
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Old Nov 13, 2017, 12:41 am
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can you update the first post to say that X99A indicates a non clean arrival? Ie B28A is deplaning at B28 but not into the B concourse...
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
can you update the first post to say that X99A indicates a non clean arrival? Ie B28A is deplaning at B28 but not into the B concourse...
Will do.

The first post might be due for one of the regular updating/link checking.
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Originally Posted by howahya
Planning on a trip next summer from New Orleans on Condor, switching to Lufthansa at FRA and heading to either Nice or Brussels. The Condor flights from MSY arrive around 10:40 AM. How much time should I leave for the transfer?
If you have a single ticket (and I know it's possible to interline DE and LH since I've done it earlier this year, though in a different direction), then I'd say about two hours to be safe, though obviously it's possible to do it down to MCT.

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Can I check my bags in MSY to the final destination or do I need to retrieve them in FRA and then recheck them?
No need to retrieve if on single reservation. Customs will be done in destination, in FRA, only immigration.

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How about the return trip? Likely it will be BRU - FRA - MSY. The Condor flights leave FRA around 11:50 AM.
I'd aim to arrive at about 11. LH1007 flight should be OK (again, if on single ticket). You could just do the earlier LH1005 as well to give yourself space.

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And what exactly is Schengen?

Thanks in advance!
Most (but not all) EU countries are in a "Schengen area", which basically means the flights are treated as domestic (no passport control, no immigration)
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FWIW:
I landed at an apron outside with bus transport to A30, by the time I got to the terminal it was about 9:10 or 9:12. I RAN through the terminal to B48 and go there by 9:30ish.

My bags however, didn't make my connection leaving at 10am. I had to go back to pick them up at my destination airport when the following FRA>YYZ flight arrived.
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Originally Posted by yosemite1
FWIW:
I landed at an apron outside with bus transport to A30, by the time I got to the terminal it was about 9:10 or 9:12. I RAN through the terminal to B48 and go there by 9:30ish.

My bags however, didn't make my connection leaving at 10am. I had to go back to pick them up at my destination airport when the following FRA>YYZ flight arrived.
Glad you made the connection but sorry to hear about your bags. The airline should normally deliver your delayed bags to an address you give them though it could be sometimes quicker to go to the airport to retrieve them yourself.
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Old Nov 16, 2017, 2:00 am
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Originally Posted by Fabo.sk


Most (but not all) EU countries are in a "Schengen area", which basically means the flights are treated as domestic (no passport control, no immigration)
The Schengen area also includes three non-EU countries: Iceland, Norway and Switzerland.
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I知 flying ARN-FRA-JFK on Monday, is this a simple enough transfer? All on LH, and my connection time is 1h 40m. Never been through FRA before so I知 fairly nervous.
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I知 flying ARN-FRA-JFK on Monday, is this a simple enough transfer? All on LH, and my connection time is 1h 40m. Never been through FRA before so I知 fairly nervous.
Yes, it should be very straightforward. Your flight from ARN should arrive at an A gate and the flight to JFK leaves from a Z gate. A and Z are two floors in the same part of the terminal. Just follow the signs for Z gates which will take you through passport control. There will be document check by the gate.
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Originally Posted by James91
I知 flying ARN-FRA-JFK on Monday, is this a simple enough transfer? All on LH, and my connection time is 1h 40m. Never been through FRA before so I知 fairly nervous.
Your plane might arrive at a B-gate. In that case you have to walk through the notorious 288 meter long tunnel. Still, just follow the signs for Z to the elevator leading to the tunnel. No security check, the passport control before the stairs to Z is pretty close to the A-end elevator. A B-arrival would add between five and ten minutes to the time used to transfer.
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