Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Oct 28, 2017, 5:55 am
#4261
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You will have to go through security between the MLL and a C gate.
Oct 28, 2017, 6:35 am
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If you arrive from non-Schengen you will have to clear security to go to the MLL. You arrive outside security already so you don’t “exit” security. If you arrive from Schengen in B you don’t have to clear security to go to the MLL (but you will go through passport control).
You will have to go through security between the MLL and a C gate.
You will have to go through security between the MLL and a C gate.
Is that correct?
How are the lines for security at FRA? And are there trusted traveller lines to skip some of those lines? (Global Entry)
Oct 28, 2017, 6:42 am
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How are the lines for security at FRA? And are there trusted traveller lines to skip some of those lines? (Global Entry)
Oct 28, 2017, 6:46 am
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Dang, there are some int'l airports that have global entry, but I guess not FRA (after a quick google). Hopefully the lineups aren't too long as I won't have any priority lanes available (Booked into Y, only have *S)
Oct 28, 2017, 6:50 am
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Oct 28, 2017, 7:40 am
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1. Going to the FCT will probably be quicker.
2. The early morning flight (LH949) often arrives at AEUW (bus arrival at a secure gate in A/Z) which is convenient for A or Z gates. But if you want to go to the FCT/FCL it doesn’t make much difference. You may or may not be picked up by a limo to be taken to the terminal. If you do ask to be dropped at an A bus gate. In order to go to the FCL B you will have to clear transfer security (or walk through the tunnel and go through passport control twice). The FCL A is not recommended as it is in Schengen.
3. You will be driven to flights departing from Z (e.g. ORD flight) from the FCL B but I suggest you go to the FCT instead.
2. The early morning flight (LH949) often arrives at AEUW (bus arrival at a secure gate in A/Z) which is convenient for A or Z gates. But if you want to go to the FCT/FCL it doesn’t make much difference. You may or may not be picked up by a limo to be taken to the terminal. If you do ask to be dropped at an A bus gate. In order to go to the FCL B you will have to clear transfer security (or walk through the tunnel and go through passport control twice). The FCL A is not recommended as it is in Schengen.
3. You will be driven to flights departing from Z (e.g. ORD flight) from the FCL B but I suggest you go to the FCT instead.
Oct 30, 2017, 2:53 pm
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Trying to get daughter from A to Z in an hour
I have read a lot of the threads but many are very old. My daughter has an hour between flights and I am trying to map out the best route for her.
She is returning to the US from a visit with a friend. She is flying Stuggart to Frankfurt on LH 131 connecting to LH 444 to Atlanta.
She arrives in Gate A24 and Departs Z19. As I understand it she will have to go through immigration. Or is it general security, or both? An earlier post indicated there is an elevator up to Z near gates A24/A65 which doesn't make sense to me as these numerically are a long way apart.
Is this elevator the best/quickest route up to Z and if so, how would she go through immigration?
A simpler question might just be- what is the quickest route for her to get from A24 to Z19.
Another point is that she is flying LH Biz Class (award ticket) so does she have access to an expedited security/immigration line? How are they indicated?
She is returning to the US from a visit with a friend. She is flying Stuggart to Frankfurt on LH 131 connecting to LH 444 to Atlanta.
She arrives in Gate A24 and Departs Z19. As I understand it she will have to go through immigration. Or is it general security, or both? An earlier post indicated there is an elevator up to Z near gates A24/A65 which doesn't make sense to me as these numerically are a long way apart.
Is this elevator the best/quickest route up to Z and if so, how would she go through immigration?
A simpler question might just be- what is the quickest route for her to get from A24 to Z19.
Another point is that she is flying LH Biz Class (award ticket) so does she have access to an expedited security/immigration line? How are they indicated?
Last edited by toddreg; Oct 30, 2017 at 6:19 pm Reason: mistake
Oct 30, 2017, 6:22 pm
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FRA Getting from A to Z concourse quickly?
Trying to get daughter from A to Z in an hour. I have read a lot of the threads but many are very old. My daughter has an hour between flights and I am trying to map out the best route for her.
She is returning to the US from a visit with a friend. She is flying Stuggart to Frankfurt on LH 131 connecting to LH 444 to Atlanta.
She arrives in Gate A24 and Departs Z19. As I understand it she will have to go through immigration. Or is it general security, or both? An earlier post indicated there is an elevator up to Z near gates A24/A65 which doesn't make sense to me as these numerically are a long way apart.
Is this elevator the best/quickest route up to Z and if so, how would she go through immigration?
A simpler question might just be- what is the quickest route for her to get from A24 to Z19.
Another point is that she is flying LH Biz Class (award ticket) so does she have access to an expedited security/immigration line? How are they indicated?
She is returning to the US from a visit with a friend. She is flying Stuggart to Frankfurt on LH 131 connecting to LH 444 to Atlanta.
She arrives in Gate A24 and Departs Z19. As I understand it she will have to go through immigration. Or is it general security, or both? An earlier post indicated there is an elevator up to Z near gates A24/A65 which doesn't make sense to me as these numerically are a long way apart.
Is this elevator the best/quickest route up to Z and if so, how would she go through immigration?
A simpler question might just be- what is the quickest route for her to get from A24 to Z19.
Another point is that she is flying LH Biz Class (award ticket) so does she have access to an expedited security/immigration line? How are they indicated?
Oct 31, 2017, 1:07 am
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I have read a lot of the threads but many are very old. My daughter has an hour between flights and I am trying to map out the best route for her.
She is returning to the US from a visit with a friend. She is flying Stuggart to Frankfurt on LH 131 connecting to LH 444 to Atlanta.
She arrives in Gate A24 and Departs Z19. As I understand it she will have to go through immigration. Or is it general security, or both? An earlier post indicated there is an elevator up to Z near gates A24/A65 which doesn't make sense to me as these numerically are a long way apart.
Is this elevator the best/quickest route up to Z and if so, how would she go through immigration?
A simpler question might just be- what is the quickest route for her to get from A24 to Z19.
Another point is that she is flying LH Biz Class (award ticket) so does she have access to an expedited security/immigration line? How are they indicated?
She is returning to the US from a visit with a friend. She is flying Stuggart to Frankfurt on LH 131 connecting to LH 444 to Atlanta.
She arrives in Gate A24 and Departs Z19. As I understand it she will have to go through immigration. Or is it general security, or both? An earlier post indicated there is an elevator up to Z near gates A24/A65 which doesn't make sense to me as these numerically are a long way apart.
Is this elevator the best/quickest route up to Z and if so, how would she go through immigration?
A simpler question might just be- what is the quickest route for her to get from A24 to Z19.
Another point is that she is flying LH Biz Class (award ticket) so does she have access to an expedited security/immigration line? How are they indicated?
Oct 31, 2017, 3:13 am
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I would simply tell her to follow the Z signs upon her arrival at FRA, and not more than that. There is a priority lane at immigration for C class, as well as a priority lane for C class in the Z terminal to access the US departures. She will not have to redo "general security".
Oct 31, 2017, 4:58 am
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"security" checks. I came through FRA this Saturday but I did
not have any additional questioning. There was a little kiosk at
the entrance of Z gates (just outside the Senator lounge) where
they were checking BP but no questioning...
Oct 31, 2017, 5:04 am
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You are over-doing/thinking this. She and her friend are adults right? - so they should be perfectly capable of making the transfer without someone to "map the best route for her". 1 hour is plenty of time to get from A to Z. Just tell your daughter to follow the signs.
Yes, of course they will have to pass immigration; they are leaving Schengen area - but it is not a big deal. 2-3 min and they will be through. No security check as I recall it.
Stop worrying - they will be fine!
Yes, of course they will have to pass immigration; they are leaving Schengen area - but it is not a big deal. 2-3 min and they will be through. No security check as I recall it.
Stop worrying - they will be fine!
Oct 31, 2017, 6:34 am
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All US bound passengers are now supposed to have additional
"security" checks. I came through FRA this Saturday but I did
not have any additional questioning. There was a little kiosk at
the entrance of Z gates (just outside the Senator lounge) where
they were checking BP but no questioning...
"security" checks. I came through FRA this Saturday but I did
not have any additional questioning. There was a little kiosk at
the entrance of Z gates (just outside the Senator lounge) where
they were checking BP but no questioning...
Oct 31, 2017, 7:15 am
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In other words, OP, they're literally downstairs from one another. 1 hour is plenty
Oct 31, 2017, 11:04 am
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No problem - have done A34 to Z19 (also ATL) last week in 20 minutes (in C). There was no additional security check for LH444 (I was surprised about that)