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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -                  TRN       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 0100 0100
 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Aug 28, 2014, 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by katrmich
Great, do this should work...

So basically, what is the difference if I would have (fortunatelly) one ticket?
If you have the whole itinerary on one ticket the airlines will protect you and put you on a later flight should you miss a connection. With separate tickets you are on your own.
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Old Aug 28, 2014, 1:43 pm
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Just to be sure: they don't have to check my hand luggage at EDDF?
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Old Aug 29, 2014, 1:08 am
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Originally Posted by MoritzT
Should be good.
Your MUC-FRA will arrive at an A gate, FRA-DUB should leave from B (B4x).
From your A gate you should take the tunnel (near Gate A17) to B. There, you just go through border control (no security check) and done. In a best case scenario, you get there in 10-15mins depending on border queue and your walking speed.

Thanks, I just changed my ticket at the suggestion of this forum (thanks guys) and now have 1.15 in MUC and 1.20 in FRA which is a much better distribution of connection times since i will be arriving ar the same time in DUB
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Old Aug 29, 2014, 10:25 am
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Would I have better chances while travelling with big luggage and say in LOWW that I'll continue flight at EDDF?
So then chcnces that they will wait for me at EDDF are bigger, correct?
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Old Aug 29, 2014, 11:05 am
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Originally Posted by katrmich
Just to be sure: they don't have to check my hand luggage at EDDF?
No security check in FRA if arriving from VIE. (Sorry I don't speak in ICAO codes, so please excuse the more commonly understood IATA codes. )

Originally Posted by katrmich
Would I have better chances while travelling with big luggage and say in LOWW that I'll continue flight at EDDF?
So then chcnces that they will wait for me at EDDF are bigger, correct?
I don't think it makes any difference whether you have a checked bag or not.

I'm still not clear if you have one ticket or not, though it sounds like you don't. Nor do I understand why you don't fly a more direct route between VIE and GDN.
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Old Aug 29, 2014, 3:53 pm
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If your incoming flight from, say, LHR, parks in front of an A gate near the centre of the A hub (e.g. A17), where would you expect the bus to take you? What part of the A terminal would it park at to let you in?
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
No security check in FRA if arriving from VIE. (Sorry I don't speak in ICAO codes, so please excuse the more commonly understood IATA codes. )


I don't think it makes any difference whether you have a checked bag or not.

I'm still not clear if you have one ticket or not, though it sounds like you don't. Nor do I understand why you don't fly a more direct route between VIE and GDN.
That's not a problem, with IATA codes. I just thought that if I would USS it it will be easier

I would like to clarify the 'bag issue' cause I don't now now if I should take handy luggage or big one ;-) ...

The reason was price basically..
Anyway I need to handle this somehow that's why I'm asking for advice ;-)

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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
No security check in FRA if arriving from VIE. (Sorry I don't speak in ICAO codes, so please excuse the more commonly understood IATA codes. )


I don't think it makes any difference whether you have a checked bag or not.

I'm still not clear if you have one ticket or not, though it sounds like you don't. Nor do I understand why you don't fly a more direct route between VIE and GDN.
Unfortunatelly I have 2 tickets: Vienna - Frankfurt and Frankfurt - Kopenhagen - Gdansk
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Old Aug 29, 2014, 11:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Kremmen
If your incoming flight from, say, LHR, parks in front of an A gate near the centre of the A hub (e.g. A17), where would you expect the bus to take you? What part of the A terminal would it park at to let you in?
There are two non-Schengen bus arrival areas in T1. T1A bus gate sounds more logical (closer) in this case but it does not always follow you will be taken to bus arrival A. It could be bus arrival B.

I have posted the positions of A and B bus arrivals previously. (Marked in yellow and orange on the map.) Non-Schengen T1A bus gate is opposite Schengen bus gates A6-10, with passport control on your right as you enter the terminal, and escalators for security and connecting flights on your left. It's close to A1 exit at the far end of the terminal (convenient if you are walking to the FCT ).





Non-Schengen arrivals at Schengen A gates are very annoying especially since you often have to deplane through the rear door. All they need to do (if gate A25 or lower) is to connect a jetbridge and let passengers deplane on Z level but this does not seem to be possible except for some late evening arrivals.
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
There are two non-Schengen bus arrival areas in T1. T1A bus gate sounds more logical (closer) in this case but it does not always follow you will be taken to bus arrival A. It could be bus arrival B.
Interesting. I was travelling with someone in a wheelchair and the bus took us to a special room which seemed to be miles away, through the concourse we came in to and down the A50+ concourse. I'm not sure how far and haven't been able to find it on any maps. Massively out of the way, given that we had a connection out of B20.
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Old Aug 30, 2014, 1:45 am
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Originally Posted by Kremmen
Interesting. I was travelling with someone in a wheelchair and the bus took us to a special room which seemed to be miles away, through the concourse we came in to and down the A50+ concourse. I'm not sure how far and haven't been able to find it on any maps. Massively out of the way, given that we had a connection out of B20.
Bus gates are not marked on any airport maps that I know of and I had to figure out where they are through observation.

T1A bus arrival gate is miles away from B gates if you follow the official route. It's likely you were taken to a special room somewhere near T1A bus gate. From T1A bus gate the route to non-Schengen B gates will be up to Skyline train to B/C stop, walk to transfer security B and to the gate. I don't know of any shortcut.
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ICN to VIE via FRA

hi people,
i need help about connection in FRA airport...i have very old Korean lady travelling from ICN via FRA to VIE with Lufthansa. Intercontinental flight is LH713 and flight within Schengen is LH1246.

She doesn't speak any languages but Korean and is very afraid to get lost on big airport. I plan to wait for her right after passport control and travel with her on second flight.

Here is the question, where could I wait for her on the airport and minimize her fear? I assume that would just right on the entrance to Schengen zone in connecting flights area but where exactly would that be?
Please help and thank you a lot.
Gomawoyo (thanks)
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Originally Posted by Hrvoje B.
hi people,
i need help about connection in FRA airport...i have very old Korean lady travelling from ICN via FRA to VIE with Lufthansa. Intercontinental flight is LH713 and flight within Schengen is LH1246.

She doesn't speak any languages but Korean and is very afraid to get lost on big airport. I plan to wait for her right after passport control and travel with her on second flight.

Here is the question, where could I wait for her on the airport and minimize her fear? I assume that would just right on the entrance to Schengen zone in connecting flights area but where exactly would that be?
Please help and thank you a lot.
Gomawoyo (thanks)
I would consider to spend 75€ for a Lufthansa Arrival guide:
http://www.lufthansa.com/us/en/Lufth...Family-Service
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Old Aug 30, 2014, 10:00 am
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Hi everyone,

I'm new to this board and just looking for a little insight concerning my flights next week.

I'm flying to Frankfurt from Dusseldorf (LH075) on September 9th and should arrive at 9:15 in FRA. I'll have a connection flight to Seattle at 10:15 (LH490). They are both Lufthansa flights and booked on one ticket if that matters.

Will the one hour connection time be enough? Any idea at which gate I'll arrive and/or depart?

Thanks a bunch!
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Old Aug 30, 2014, 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Hrvoje B.
hi people,
i need help about connection in FRA airport...i have very old Korean lady travelling from ICN via FRA to VIE with Lufthansa. Intercontinental flight is LH713 and flight within Schengen is LH1246.

She doesn't speak any languages but Korean and is very afraid to get lost on big airport. I plan to wait for her right after passport control and travel with her on second flight.

Here is the question, where could I wait for her on the airport and minimize her fear? I assume that would just right on the entrance to Schengen zone in connecting flights area but where exactly would that be?
Please help and thank you a lot.
Gomawoyo (thanks)
Originally Posted by rotanes
I would consider to spend 75€ for a Lufthansa Arrival guide:
http://www.lufthansa.com/us/en/Lufth...Family-Service
I support rotanes's suggestion for the guide service.

ICN flights usually arrive at a Z gate but yesterday it arrived at C16. There should be someone who speaks Korean at the arrival gate but they can only point your friend in the direction where she should go. It will not be easy/possible to wait for her just after passport control if that's what you are planning to do. If the flight arrives at a Z gate she will have to clear security, go downstairs and through passport control to A concourse. If the flight arrives at a C (or B) gate the route will involve a long walk and a ride on the Skyline train or a walk through a tunnel. If you are at all concerned you should consider the guide service.
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