Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Nov 18, 2017, 7:07 am
#4321
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 7
I will be flying ZRH to FRA which is scheduled to arrive at 09:10 and then a 10:55 FRA to BOS flight.
Are arrival times when the bus pulls up to the bus gate or when the aircraft stops at the remote stand ?
Thanks.
Are arrival times when the bus pulls up to the bus gate or when the aircraft stops at the remote stand ?
Thanks.
Nov 18, 2017, 3:10 pm
#4322
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: CLE
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As a follow-up to my previous question about going Z to B non-Schengen via the tunnel to avoid going through security. It seems that most of the days, my UA flight arrives Z18/19/20 and the LH flight leaves B30/32 or B53/55 
I'd appreciate if you could answer a couple of questions:
I'd appreciate if you could answer a couple of questions:- From my arrival gate, do I walk to the stairs/elevators across Z11 to get to the A level to go through passport control into Schengen, and then walk to the elevator between A15 and A17 to go down to the tunnel?
- Can I take the elevator between Z15 and Z17 straight down to the tunnel?
- Should I instead just follow the signs to A from my arrival gate to go trough passport control, and once in A to follow the signs for B? Or would this take me to the sky train?
Nov 19, 2017, 7:06 am
#4323
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 263
All US bound passengers are now supposed to have additional
"security" checks. I came through FRA this Saturday but I did
not have any additional questioning. There was a little kiosk at
the entrance of Z gates (just outside the Senator lounge) where
they were checking BP but no questioning...
"security" checks. I came through FRA this Saturday but I did
not have any additional questioning. There was a little kiosk at
the entrance of Z gates (just outside the Senator lounge) where
they were checking BP but no questioning...
Nov 19, 2017, 10:53 am
#4324
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: 150km from MAN
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As a follow-up to my previous question about going Z to B non-Schengen via the tunnel to avoid going through security. It seems that most of the days, my UA flight arrives Z18/19/20 and the LH flight leaves B30/32 or B53/55 I'd appreciate if you could answer a couple of questions:
1. From my arrival gate, do I walk to the stairs/elevators across Z11 to get to the A level to go through passport control into Schengen, and then walk to the elevator between A15 and A17 to go down to the tunnel?
I'd appreciate if you could answer a couple of questions:1. From my arrival gate, do I walk to the stairs/elevators across Z11 to get to the A level to go through passport control into Schengen, and then walk to the elevator between A15 and A17 to go down to the tunnel?
2. Can I take the elevator between Z15 and Z17 straight down to the tunnel?
3. Should I instead just follow the signs to A from my arrival gate to go trough passport control, and once in A to follow the signs for B?
Or would this take me to the sky train?Thanks.
The official route from Z to B non-Schengen is to take the Skyline train from Z to B and go through transfer security there. No need to clear passport control.You may know this already but B30/32 and B53/55 are bus gates.
Nov 19, 2017, 11:00 am
#4325
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: CLE
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Thanks. So any ideas where the elevators between Z15 and 17 go? They show up on the map, they seem to be right above the ones in A that go down to the tunnel.
Yeah, I know those are bus gates I hope at least my UA flight from ORD doesn’t get a bus gate.
Yeah, I know those are bus gates
I hope at least my UA flight from ORD doesn’t get a bus gate.
Nov 19, 2017, 11:07 am
#4326
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I think you can go from A to Z via those elevators at certain times of the day (exit passport control once you are upstairs) but moving between A and Z (in either direction) is not my usual transfer route in FRA. I hope someone with experience can confirm.
Nov 21, 2017, 4:31 am
#4327
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
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Posts: 8,089
I can try and see if I can check for you on Saturday.
Nov 21, 2017, 5:14 am
#4328
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IIRC there are 6 elevators between gates A15 and A17. Two on the left take you from A to the tunnel. Two on the right used to be for passengers going to C,D or E gates (via the Skyline train) and two in the middle connect(ed) A and Z. I know it was/is sometimes possible to go from A > Z using these elevators but I'm not sure if you can use them in the opposite direction.
Nov 21, 2017, 3:53 pm
#4331
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: SJO
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My situation: SJO-PTY-FRA-BLR, all the way on Y.
Arrival at FRA 11:40am, departure to BLR 12:50pm. That's 1hr 10min (70 minutes) layover in FRA.
Is that a realistic connection time or not?
Arrival at FRA 11:40am, departure to BLR 12:50pm. That's 1hr 10min (70 minutes) layover in FRA.
Is that a realistic connection time or not?
Nov 22, 2017, 2:51 am
#4332
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 2,189
This said, it all depends on how critical the arrival time at BLR is for you. In the event of a misconnection, they'll probably put you on LH760 to DEL and get you from DEL to BLR on AI.
Nov 27, 2017, 5:34 pm
#4333
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IIRC there are 6 elevators between gates A15 and A17. Two on the left take you from A to the tunnel. Two on the right used to be for passengers going to C,D or E gates (via the Skyline train) and two in the middle connect(ed) A and Z. I know it was/is sometimes possible to go from A > Z using these elevators but I'm not sure if you can use them in the opposite direction.
edit: I'd thought about where they would lead anyway re. passport control, and realized they can't be used as they are now, since they lead directly to outside Schengen. But there are some stairs and elevators right across from there, aren't there?
Last edited by Fabo.sk; Nov 27, 2017 at 5:44 pm
Nov 27, 2017, 6:06 pm
#4334
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So I didn't pass round that part on Saturday, when I rather just went straight from the ASW to the A52 or what it was, but today (well, yesterday), I passed by them, and it's like you say. The middle two elevators were cordoned off on A level, so not useable at all.
edit: I'd thought about where they would lead anyway re. passport control, and realized they can't be used as they are now, since they lead directly to outside Schengen. But there are some stairs and elevators right across from there, aren't there?
edit: I'd thought about where they would lead anyway re. passport control, and realized they can't be used as they are now, since they lead directly to outside Schengen. But there are some stairs and elevators right across from there, aren't there?
Nov 30, 2017, 8:30 am
#4335
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I had a rather long connection at FRA today, arriving at A19 and departing from B12.
I went through the tunnel and passport control (but not through security) to get to the SEN lounge next to gate B42 because they make fresh decaf cappuccinos (I have only been at FRA a few times, but learned this much).
I asked the lounge agent if gate B12 was far away and if I would have to go through security again: “No, not at all, it’s just on the other side of the food court, there’s no security control” - and she pointed back to where I had just come from.
Anyway, after some time in the lounge, I try to walk to my gate. Unfortunately I followed the signs, which led me up to the second floor - and then out of the security area. So of course I had to go through security again, and there were loooooong lines and no fast track (I ended up finding proper B security, where they did have a fast track in the end).
But I am wondering, was what the lady told me just wrong?
Or could I have walked from B42 to B12 without going through security, only going through passport control?
I went through the tunnel and passport control (but not through security) to get to the SEN lounge next to gate B42 because they make fresh decaf cappuccinos (I have only been at FRA a few times, but learned this much).
I asked the lounge agent if gate B12 was far away and if I would have to go through security again: “No, not at all, it’s just on the other side of the food court, there’s no security control” - and she pointed back to where I had just come from.
Anyway, after some time in the lounge, I try to walk to my gate. Unfortunately I followed the signs, which led me up to the second floor - and then out of the security area. So of course I had to go through security again, and there were loooooong lines and no fast track (I ended up finding proper B security, where they did have a fast track in the end).
But I am wondering, was what the lady told me just wrong?
Or could I have walked from B42 to B12 without going through security, only going through passport control?