Tokyo 2020 Olympics discussion [consolidated]
May 25, 2020, 10:54 pm
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Oh that's awesome. I'm just south of the border and go to Whistler often. There are remnants of Olympics all over Whistler, including a big outdoor amphitheatre where people hung out during the Olympics and I can imagine how cool it must've been to be there.
I just looked up costs of Olympics on Wikipedia. Vancouver Olympics only cost 1.26billion USD. That's 1/40 of Sochi Olympics! Some are estimating that Tokyo Olympics will also end up costing ~25billion USD in the end.
I just looked up costs of Olympics on Wikipedia. Vancouver Olympics only cost 1.26billion USD. That's 1/40 of Sochi Olympics! Some are estimating that Tokyo Olympics will also end up costing ~25billion USD in the end.
If you consider the various tangible infrastructure improvements, the intangible goodwill and add no debt, very few today complain about the Vancouver Olympics. Most consider it fairly successful.
Now that we live in Japan, the escalating costs, the pandemic delay, and dealing with COVID - Olympics seem to be more of a burden/duty than something to look forward to.
May 26, 2020, 1:32 am
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May 26, 2020, 2:01 am
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Interesting.
While hosting any party, there is always a cost. However the question is, how bad is the hangover? In Vancouver's case, it wasn't bad.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...says-1.2695994
Jun 3, 2020, 10:04 pm
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Your guaranteed tickets may not be so guaranteed after all.
A Japanese article on the subject gives a little more detail on the proposals, including scaling down the number of participants and festivities of the opening and closing ceremonies. Also heard on a news broadcast they were considering requiring a 14 day quarantine for all athletes before being allowed to compete.
Japan is considering simplifying the format of next year's Tokyo Olympics following the outbreak of the novel coronavirus, a government source said Thursday.
The simplification, which could include a cut in the number of spectators, is part of measures to prevent the spread of the virus, according to the source.
The simplification, which could include a cut in the number of spectators, is part of measures to prevent the spread of the virus, according to the source.
Jun 30, 2020, 11:59 pm
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What do you think are the probabilities (percentage-wise) of these scenarios?
1. Will be held in summer 2021 with spectators (may or may not be scaled down).
2. Will be held in summer 2021 without spectators.
3. Will be postponed to 2022.
4. Will be canceled.
5. Something else (specify)
1. Will be held in summer 2021 with spectators (may or may not be scaled down).
2. Will be held in summer 2021 without spectators.
3. Will be postponed to 2022.
4. Will be canceled.
5. Something else (specify)
Jul 1, 2020, 12:00 am
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what do you think are the probabilities (percentage-wise) of these scenarios?
1. Will be held in summer 2021 with spectators (may or may not be scaled down).
2. Will be held in summer 2021 without spectators.
3. Will be postponed to 2022.
4. Will be canceled.
5. Something else (specify)
1. Will be held in summer 2021 with spectators (may or may not be scaled down).
2. Will be held in summer 2021 without spectators.
3. Will be postponed to 2022.
4. Will be canceled.
5. Something else (specify)
2. 10%
3. 35%
4. 30%
Jul 1, 2020, 12:26 am
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What do you think are the probabilities (percentage-wise) of these scenarios?
1. Will be held in summer 2021 with spectators (may or may not be scaled down).
2. Will be held in summer 2021 without spectators.
3. Will be postponed to 2022.
4. Will be canceled.
5. Something else (specify)
1. Will be held in summer 2021 with spectators (may or may not be scaled down).
2. Will be held in summer 2021 without spectators.
3. Will be postponed to 2022.
4. Will be canceled.
5. Something else (specify)
2. 10%
3. 0%
4. 65%
5. 5% (limited number of events will be held in a controlled biosphere environment outside of Japan, kind of like UFC's "Fight Island")
Jul 1, 2020, 1:55 pm
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What do you think are the probabilities (percentage-wise) of these scenarios?
1. Will be held in summer 2021 with spectators (may or may not be scaled down).
2. Will be held in summer 2021 without spectators.
3. Will be postponed to 2022.
4. Will be canceled.
5. Something else (specify)
1. Will be held in summer 2021 with spectators (may or may not be scaled down).
2. Will be held in summer 2021 without spectators.
3. Will be postponed to 2022.
4. Will be canceled.
5. Something else (specify)
2. 30 %
3. 0% - will conflict with the Winter Olympics
4. 50%
Jul 1, 2020, 4:43 pm
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1. 20%
2. 20%
3. 20%
4. 38% An athletics celebration not called Olympics "year" to support Tokyo and athletes.
5. 2% Give Tokyo another Olympics in the near future. Possibly bumping one of the other cities to four years later? (Yeah, slim chance)
2. 20%
3. 20%
4. 38% An athletics celebration not called Olympics "year" to support Tokyo and athletes.
5. 2% Give Tokyo another Olympics in the near future. Possibly bumping one of the other cities to four years later? (Yeah, slim chance)
Jul 1, 2020, 6:43 pm
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So all of you think it's more likely to be cancelled than to be postponed till 2022.
I personally don't find it a problem to have winter and summer games in the same year (wasn't it that way until early 90's?), but of course I don't know all the logistical/money issues.
I personally don't find it a problem to have winter and summer games in the same year (wasn't it that way until early 90's?), but of course I don't know all the logistical/money issues.
Jul 1, 2020, 7:58 pm
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My impression is that it would be too difficult financially to delay until 2022. For example, isn't the Olympic Village slated to become a condominium complex? Although I haven't heard about this for a while, condo owners had already put down money and made plans to move there. That's just one example.
Jul 1, 2020, 8:27 pm
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Ditto for a huge list of equipment / facilities / services. Also, a delay until 2022 puts the games in direct competition with the Winter Olympics for same advertising and sponsorship budgets. (And with the 2022 FIFA World Cup, although the IOC might not mind that quite as much).
Jul 2, 2020, 12:08 am
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Okay well I guess 2022 is more difficult than I was thinking. But I'm definitely less optimistic about 2021 now than I was a month ago, and I think I'm in the majority. If it's not 2021 or 2022, then for sure Tokyo's cancelled altogether. But it's just hard to think that Jpn would be allowed to come away completely empty-handed after investing so much.
Anyways, it seems like so far the concensus is that probability of (1) + (2) is <50%.
I probably ought to get a jump start on contacting Cosport to ask for refund.
Anyways, it seems like so far the concensus is that probability of (1) + (2) is <50%.
I probably ought to get a jump start on contacting Cosport to ask for refund.
Jul 2, 2020, 12:43 am
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Jul 2, 2020, 1:05 am
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