Tokyo 2020 Olympics discussion [consolidated]
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That would suck. I'll keep my hopes up, though.
I think it's unfair that Jpn has to shoulder almost all of the financial burdens of this 1-yr delay or, God forbid, outright cancellation.
The background problem to all this is that IOC has allowed the Olympics to become this money-grubbing corporate/political behemoth.
Ticket prices and hotel price-gouging are symbolic of this, not to mention the amount of investment the host country has been forced to make.
I heard 2022 is unrealistic as they can no longer push back a lot of the things that were contingent upon Olympics being over, such as conversion of Athletes' Village into residential complexes.
I think it's unfair that Jpn has to shoulder almost all of the financial burdens of this 1-yr delay or, God forbid, outright cancellation.
The background problem to all this is that IOC has allowed the Olympics to become this money-grubbing corporate/political behemoth.
Ticket prices and hotel price-gouging are symbolic of this, not to mention the amount of investment the host country has been forced to make.
I heard 2022 is unrealistic as they can no longer push back a lot of the things that were contingent upon Olympics being over, such as conversion of Athletes' Village into residential complexes.
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Update: Called UAL to cancel and get an e-cert. Lo and behold, my employee Z class ticket was fully refunded. Not sure why but thrilled! How can one tell after purchase if a ticket is refundable?
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In a human interest story (Japanese)
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/202...415451000.html
To my knowledge, this is the first person that was supposed to be a torch runner to pass away. A 54 year old man who's restaurant saw dwindling business apparently set himself and the restaurant on fire.
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/202...415451000.html
To my knowledge, this is the first person that was supposed to be a torch runner to pass away. A 54 year old man who's restaurant saw dwindling business apparently set himself and the restaurant on fire.
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Tokyo Olympics Unlikely to Happen in 2021, Virus Experts Say
Tokyo’s postponed Olympics is unlikely to take place even in 2021 as the coronavirus pandemic may not be fully contained around the world by then, a growing number of infectious disease experts warn.
The highly contagious virus, which has claimed more than 200,000 lives globally, will be at various stages of spread and infection in different countries by next summer, making it hard to pull off a large-scale international event, some health policy experts say. Under such a scenario, guests and athletes from more than 200 countries and regions would require extensive testing and quarantines -- a logistical process that may not be feasible.
“Japan may be able to contain the virus by next year’s games” but other regions like the U.S., Africa or Brazil may not, creating an uneven playing field for athletes, said Norio Sugaya, a visiting professor at Keio University’s School of Medicine in Tokyo and a member of a World Health Organization panel advising on pandemic influenza. “It’s going to be tough to hold the Olympics.”
Sugaya’s concern is echoed by Yoshito Niki, a visiting professor of infectious disease at Showa University, who warns that the world will need at least two years to contain the virus as infections return in the northern and southern hemispheres when they enter their winter seasons. If the games are to be pushed ahead regardless, spectators would have to be shut out and athletes would have to travel to Japan a month in advance for testing, he said. That raises the question of whether it will be even worth having the event at all, he said.
The highly contagious virus, which has claimed more than 200,000 lives globally, will be at various stages of spread and infection in different countries by next summer, making it hard to pull off a large-scale international event, some health policy experts say. Under such a scenario, guests and athletes from more than 200 countries and regions would require extensive testing and quarantines -- a logistical process that may not be feasible.
“Japan may be able to contain the virus by next year’s games” but other regions like the U.S., Africa or Brazil may not, creating an uneven playing field for athletes, said Norio Sugaya, a visiting professor at Keio University’s School of Medicine in Tokyo and a member of a World Health Organization panel advising on pandemic influenza. “It’s going to be tough to hold the Olympics.”
Sugaya’s concern is echoed by Yoshito Niki, a visiting professor of infectious disease at Showa University, who warns that the world will need at least two years to contain the virus as infections return in the northern and southern hemispheres when they enter their winter seasons. If the games are to be pushed ahead regardless, spectators would have to be shut out and athletes would have to travel to Japan a month in advance for testing, he said. That raises the question of whether it will be even worth having the event at all, he said.
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People can try to speculate all they want.
But the most meaningful thing IOC should do is to define some timeframes.
Dec 15: decide whether to cancel or defer decision another 3mo.
Mar 15 (if necessary): decide whether to proceed or cancel.
This will stop the speculations and allow everyone (athletes, govt, businesses, venues, governing bodies) to make plans.
But the most meaningful thing IOC should do is to define some timeframes.
Dec 15: decide whether to cancel or defer decision another 3mo.
Mar 15 (if necessary): decide whether to proceed or cancel.
This will stop the speculations and allow everyone (athletes, govt, businesses, venues, governing bodies) to make plans.
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They've already defined a timeframe. The Olympics will start on July 23, 2021. They will refuse to say anything different until, like before, other parties force the issue.
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If they can decide to defer the decision, I would expect them to always defer the decision until as late as possible. There's no reason to make the decision on December 15th if they can postpone it to March 15th.
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But it's better for almost everyone else to know earlier than later if it's going to be cancelled anyways.
The delay is already costing Jpn, numerous businesses and certain athletes a lot of money. It'll probably cost them more if the cancellation is announced in March vs Dec.
So I think if it's looking very certain by Dec that the Olympics would be a bad idea, then it should just be cancelled then.
Dec was just arbitrary, though. It could be Jan or Nov or whenever. The earlier the better for the decision, although I just think you can't rule out summer 2021 Olympics until ~Nov at the earliest.
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It's the IOC that will be making the decision whether the IOC should defer the decision.
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