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Jan 23, 2012, 3:31 pm
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During our stay last year we meat many locals who were there with their kids for the weekend. as i recall one group telling us they lived in hilo and would come about every other month for a saturday night to bring the kids to play in the pools as a specal treat. they said they got the rooms for like 99 per night. my son greatly enjoyed having lots of kids to play with.
As for staying local we live in socal and often get a room for just a night to be able to use the pool and feal like we are on vacation even if we are only 4 miles from the house. Vacation is a state of mind not just a destination, i dont always have to get onto an airplane to enjoy some relaxation.
As for staying local we live in socal and often get a room for just a night to be able to use the pool and feal like we are on vacation even if we are only 4 miles from the house. Vacation is a state of mind not just a destination, i dont always have to get onto an airplane to enjoy some relaxation.
Jan 23, 2012, 4:17 pm
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Hmmm, okay apologies about the comments on the locals. To me it seems unlikely that someone who lives on this island would stay at an expensive resort hotel on the island. I was unaware that locals might get a different rate. It seemed more likely to me that the 20 or so kids that are about 15 years old know someone who works at the hotel who would slip them a pass for the pool. The resort is pretty crowded, I would hope that the employees aren't doing that.
Jan 23, 2012, 4:34 pm
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Of course a non-resident is going to dislike Kama'aina rates - but offering discounts to people who would otherwise travel to the mainland or who might not otherwise be able to afford a vacation (and they have a right to take a vacation too) is a prudent and perfectly acceptable way to keep local tourism dollars, local.
Do you also object to the Florida resident rates for the Orlando theme parks and other Florida hotel properties? I've seen special rates published for residents of Taipei, Los Angeles, New York, etc etc. I see nothing wrong with it...especially when I'm paying $170 for something a mainlander is paying $300 for, or in the case of the FS, $350 for a $800 room.
Do you also object to the Florida resident rates for the Orlando theme parks and other Florida hotel properties? I've seen special rates published for residents of Taipei, Los Angeles, New York, etc etc. I see nothing wrong with it...especially when I'm paying $170 for something a mainlander is paying $300 for, or in the case of the FS, $350 for a $800 room.
You can keep local tourism by other means like offering last minute rates that usually only locals can benefit from or packaging some extras tht may be of value primarily to the locals.
Jan 23, 2012, 4:55 pm
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Yes I do object in all those cases. I have seen some very limited discounts for CA residents here in LA, 10% off or so and maybe a perk or two added like free breakfast. I suspect its similar in FL. Never anything of magnitude of HI kamaaina discounts. Unlike HI when people visit california we don't charge them 2-3x what we pay.
You can keep local tourism by other means like offering last minute rates that usually only locals can benefit from or packaging some extras tht may be of value primarily to the locals.
You can keep local tourism by other means like offering last minute rates that usually only locals can benefit from or packaging some extras tht may be of value primarily to the locals.
HWV is not the only hotel offering the program - you can find Kama'aina specials at almost every property from the Sheraton Keahou all the way up to the Mauna Kea and Prince...and on every other island.
One thing to consider - when occupancy rates at a hotel hit a certain number, the K-specials are gone...everyone pays the same rate.
Jan 23, 2012, 10:08 pm
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I suppose the rates make sense if the hotel is trying to fill available space. I just got back from driving all over the island, I'm going to reverse my earlier opinion, if you lived in Hilo it would make sense to spend the night here, it's a pretty far drive. Also they offered a 5 night stay for 600 dollars (tax included) as a return guest. The offer came as a voice mail.
Some other notes. Some of the other towers besides the Ocean tower seem to have a real bad problem with bird noise. I've walked by a couple times and they are really loud. Seems to be only in in evening and morning. The monorail is nice, but you can really walk as fast as it goes, so unless you are tired you might as well walk and enjoy the nice artwork. Lastly most of the things I wanted to do seem to be pretty far from the Ocean tower, the others are more convenient.
Some other notes. Some of the other towers besides the Ocean tower seem to have a real bad problem with bird noise. I've walked by a couple times and they are really loud. Seems to be only in in evening and morning. The monorail is nice, but you can really walk as fast as it goes, so unless you are tired you might as well walk and enjoy the nice artwork. Lastly most of the things I wanted to do seem to be pretty far from the Ocean tower, the others are more convenient.
Jan 23, 2012, 10:13 pm
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I stayed at that property many times in the past (it's probably my favorite hilton in US with decent upgrades, spa access for diamonds and very pleasant feel overall) and i don't recall ever getting this offer. Do you have any details?
Jan 23, 2012, 10:14 pm
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One item of note - I noticed both monorails operating when I was there, but the boat was a rare sight.
Jan 24, 2012, 5:56 am
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The Hilton Waikoloa has some wonderful rates for residents of Hawaii (so do a majority of hotels on Hawaii). Like anyone else, this is a great place to come and stay with your family...whether you are a resident of the Big Island or coming over from another island. It is much cheaper to take a trip over to a neighbor island for rest and relaxation than flying back to the mainland. It is wrong to assume that these people are anything other than guests. And the hotel might also sell day passes to use the facilities (not sure) but even if they do what is the problem with that?
Jan 24, 2012, 5:57 am
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The funny thing about the monorail is we just missed it one morning - but walked to the next stop and caught up.
Jan 24, 2012, 8:13 am
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right now disneyland is offering socal residence only 2 days at either park for 99, for everyone else its 160. there are lots more liek this is you look for them
Jan 24, 2012, 9:34 am
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Jan 24, 2012, 4:39 pm
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I suppose the rates make sense if the hotel is trying to fill available space. I just got back from driving all over the island, I'm going to reverse my earlier opinion, if you lived in Hilo it would make sense to spend the night here, it's a pretty far drive. Also they offered a 5 night stay for 600 dollars (tax included) as a return guest. The offer came as a voice mail.
Some other notes. Some of the other towers besides the Ocean tower seem to have a real bad problem with bird noise. I've walked by a couple times and they are really loud. Seems to be only in in evening and morning. The monorail is nice, but you can really walk as fast as it goes, so unless you are tired you might as well walk and enjoy the nice artwork. Lastly most of the things I wanted to do seem to be pretty far from the Ocean tower, the others are more convenient.
Some other notes. Some of the other towers besides the Ocean tower seem to have a real bad problem with bird noise. I've walked by a couple times and they are really loud. Seems to be only in in evening and morning. The monorail is nice, but you can really walk as fast as it goes, so unless you are tired you might as well walk and enjoy the nice artwork. Lastly most of the things I wanted to do seem to be pretty far from the Ocean tower, the others are more convenient.
Jan 24, 2012, 6:25 pm
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First time we heard it we thought "Wow" and went outside to check it out! Yeah..it was loud! This was in the Lagoon Tower. Our room was right in the middle of the tower....4th or 5th floor facing the dolphin lagoon. This time when we go back in June I am not upgrading to a one bedroom. But I worry a little about the bird noise and if it will occur when I am sleeping! No way could I sleep through it!
Jan 25, 2012, 8:39 am
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I too read a lot of reviews about the birds. When we stayed in June '10 we used points to upgrade to one of their 1 bedroom suites. Our son slept on the fold out sofa in the living room which is where the entrance was to the room. Sure enough, twice a day, the birds did their thing! It was crazy loud!!! We were only there 2 nights and I can't recall what times of day this happened, but I remember thinking "I am so glad I am in this other room 'cause I would not be able to sleep!!!" And my son was a heavy sleeper so he wasn't bothered.
First time we heard it we thought "Wow" and went outside to check it out! Yeah..it was loud! This was in the Lagoon Tower. Our room was right in the middle of the tower....4th or 5th floor facing the dolphin lagoon. This time when we go back in June I am not upgrading to a one bedroom. But I worry a little about the bird noise and if it will occur when I am sleeping! No way could I sleep through it!
First time we heard it we thought "Wow" and went outside to check it out! Yeah..it was loud! This was in the Lagoon Tower. Our room was right in the middle of the tower....4th or 5th floor facing the dolphin lagoon. This time when we go back in June I am not upgrading to a one bedroom. But I worry a little about the bird noise and if it will occur when I am sleeping! No way could I sleep through it!
Jan 25, 2012, 5:41 pm
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We stayed on the 4th floor in the middle of the lagoon tower in may 11 and as i recall teh birds started at about 8pm and went til 9pm then started up again about 3:30Am and went til 5:00 AM. the first night after ariving from the mainland we were up at 3:30 anyways since my 3yo son thought it was 6:30 and wanted breakfast.