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Old Nov 28, 2018, 12:40 pm
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Minimum connection time at AMS
Note: when determining the airline for MCT purposes, what counts is who markets the flight, not who operates it.

Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-KL: 50 minutes

Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-DL, DL-KL, or DL-DL: 25 minutes

Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, KL-KL or KL-DL: 90 minutes

Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, DL-KL or DL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-KL or DL-KL: 60 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-DL or DL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, DL-DL, DL-KL, or KL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, KL-KL: anywhere from 40 minutes to 2 hours--it depends on the flight numbers and the dates. I've posted the raw output below to help you figure out which MCT will apply.
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2040 - FLT 4141
KL-KL II .55 FLT 602 - FLT 597 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II SUP FLT 1230 - FLT 743 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 904 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1382 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1386 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1396 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1614 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3086 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 902 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1392 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1394 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 904 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1386 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1396 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1614 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3086 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3096 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3097 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 758 - ALL OPN -02DEC18
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 894 - ALL OPN -02DEC18
KL-KL II .55 FLT 741 - ALL OPN -28FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 749 - ALL OPN -28FEB19
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 884 - ALL OPN -29MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 602 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 622 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 692 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 724 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 734 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 792 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3096
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3823
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3948
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 210 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3097 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3822 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3949 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 4102 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 4991 - ALL
KL-KL II .55 FLT 758 - ALL 03DEC18-28FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 876 - ALL 01JAN19-03FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 878 - ALL 01JAN19-03FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 434 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 604 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 606 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 608 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 741 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 749 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 882 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 884 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.55 FLT 888 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 894 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 896 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 566 - ALL 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 602 - ALL 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3400 - 3420 ALL - LIN
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3400 - 3420 ALL - FCO
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3400 - 3420 - FLT 900 - 1999 LIN - ALL
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3400 - 3420 - FLT 900 - 1999 FCO - ALL
KL-KL II .50 FLT 400 - 1999 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II .40 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II .40 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3108 - 3109
KL-KL II .50 FLT 2000 - 2369 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2370 - 2529 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 2520 - 2699 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2700 - 4999 - FLT 6000 - 6199
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2823 - 2826 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.45 FLT 2960 - 2999 - FLT 300 - 899
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 3000 - 4999 - FLT 6000 - 6199
KL-KL II .40 FLT 3108 - 3109 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3150 - 3175 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 6000 - 6199 - FLT 2700 - 4999
KL-KL II .50 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 400 - 1999
KL-KL II .50 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2000 - 2369
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2370 - 2529
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2520 - 2699
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183 GRU - ALL
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183 YVR - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 400 - 1999 - ALL EQP ALL - TRN
ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 3096 - 3099 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 3100 - 3107 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 2758 - 2759 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.40 ALL - FLT 2890 - 2899 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 320 - 329 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2520 - 2699 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2758 - 2759 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2830 - 2837 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.40 FLT 2890 - 2899 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3076 - 3079 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3120 - 3122 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 320 - 329
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 2758 - 2759
KL-KL II 2.00 ALL - FLT 2890 - 2899
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3100 - 3107
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3152 - 3173
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3646 - 3649
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 320 - 329 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 2520 - 2699 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2758 - 2759 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2823 - 2826 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2830 - 2837 - ALL
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 2890 - 2899 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2960 - 2999 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3076 - 3079 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.15 FLT 3100 - 3107 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3120 - 3122 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3150 - 3175 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3178 - 3183 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.15 FLT 3646 - 3649 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 EQP ALL - TRN GROUP3 - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.30 EQP TRN - ALL
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Old Nov 26, 2015, 6:45 am
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Originally Posted by baccarat_king
How are you getting from AMS to DFW?
Seems pretty clear they meant:
KLM: TXL-AMS 1.5H stop
DL: AMS-MSP
DL: MSP-DFW
It's not like we haven't all made typos ...
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Originally Posted by stc
Seems pretty clear they meant:
KLM: TXL-AMS 1.5H stop
DL: AMS-MSP
DL: MSP-DFW
It's not like we haven't all made typos ...
I was actually "intrigued" by the prospect of AMS-DFW. I actually, did not study it so closely. Noticed arrival from Berlin and departure from DFW. There was not an "ill" intent.

I was also "intrigued" at what prompted the concept of there being pre-clearance (in place) at AMS. (Since pre-clearance from Europe to the USA is very rare.)
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Originally Posted by baccarat_king
I was also "intrigued" at what prompted the concept of there being pre-clearance (in place) at AMS. (Since pre-clearance from Europe to the USA is very rare.)
Given the reconstruction and layout of AMS, it's one of the more plausible potential Pre-clearance EU airports (politics aside). Vs, say, CDG or LHR which are pretty much non-starters.
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Originally Posted by bennos
Given the reconstruction and layout of AMS, it's one of the more plausible potential Pre-clearance EU airports (politics aside). Vs, say, CDG or LHR which are pretty much non-starters.
Well, the "re-construction" was basically to allow central (not gate) screening for non-Schengen. While I will concede that Delta/KLM have an enviable AMS-USA operation with respect to service.... It's still only a % of the non-Schengen traffic (for KLM + other carriers). I just never heard the concept "floated," of pre-clearance which would (most likely) require extreme segregation of the USA flights.
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I have read through the thread as much as possible, but am still a tad confused as to how the new layout/process works at AMS, and also want to throw in a lounge access question as well to the mix.

My wife and I will be flying JFK-AMS in DL One and then onward from AMS-BSL on KLM Cityhopper, in coach on the same reservation/itinerary/ticket very soon. We have a little over a 3 hour connection. Since we are boarding a cruise ship in BSL and will not have access to our stateroom until later that afternoon, we would LOVE a shower in the Crown Lounge before our onward flight.

My questions are (and this may be a different question for another thread, but I am hoping you guys can help), would I even have access to the Crown Lounge in this situation? I am Delta Diamond arriving on a Biz Class ticket, but connecting in coach.

With the usual wait times for showers at the Crown Lounge, is it plausible to get in there, get the shower, and then get to our gate in time?

Assuming that all of the above is doable, what is the straightest path from our Delta arrival gate, through whatever passport control is necessary, to the lounge? I'm assuming that one of the agents there will be more than happy to direct us to our next gate.

Thanks in advance for any help! It sounds like the process should be a bit less painful than before with the security being centralized!
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Old Dec 11, 2015, 9:35 am
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Yes, you will have access to the KLM 25 and 52 (Schengen and non-Schengen) lounges. You most likely to arrive at one of the D or E-gates and you KLC flight most likely will depart from one of the B or C gates. A 3 hours connection will give you plenty of time to shower.

AMS-BSL is an international flight and as a DM (ST E+) you will have access. Doesn't matter if you flying coach or EBC on a skyteam operated flight.

If you go to the lounge 52 (the non-Schengen one) no passport control is needed.
If you switch lounges later or if you prefer to go for lounge 25 directly then you first have to go through passport control.

Edit: Locations of the lounges:
https://www.klm.com/travel/nl_en/pre...g_np_LargeIB=1
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55 Minute Connection at AMS on Sunday in March
Hello.. I'm new to this so pardon me if I've posted incorrectly.

I've read the later posts but want to be sure of making connecting flights back to Canada.

Flight is from CDG > AMS on Air France and connect to YEG on Delta. Is 55 minutes sufficient. It will be on a Sunday afternoon, if that makes any difference.

Thank you.
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AMS Connection Information from KLM
https://www.klm.com/travel/us_en/pre...ions/index.htm

Transferring at Amsterdam Airport Schiphol
When you check in for the first flight of your trip, you will receive the following documents:

A boarding pass for your first flight
A boarding pass for your connecting flight
A folder containing information about transferring at Amsterdam Airport Schiphol


The standard transfer time at Amsterdam Airport Schiphol to a flight within Europe is 40 minutes and 50 minutes for an intercontinental flight.
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Old Feb 4, 2016, 1:54 am
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Originally Posted by barjung
Hello.. I'm new to this so pardon me if I've posted incorrectly.

I've read the later posts but want to be sure of making connecting flights back to Canada.

Flight is from CDG > AMS on Air France and connect to YEG on Delta. Is 55 minutes sufficient. It will be on a Sunday afternoon, if that makes any difference.

Thank you.
DL doesn't fly to YEG from AMS. You've got a DL codeshare operated by KLM for the flight to YEG. Very easy connection to make.
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Old Feb 4, 2016, 8:56 am
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DL doesn't fly to YEG from AMS. You've got a DL codeshare operated by KLM for the flight to YEG. Very easy connection to make.
That's what I'm thinking. I'm also wondering whether the KLM AMS-YEG flight is nonstop or makes a stop somewhere in eastern Canada. AFAIK there wouldn't be a DL codeshare to DL metal "direct" flight from Europe to Canada via the USA.
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I am going from ORD>AMS>DBX in April. I will be in Amsterdam for 7 hours (arrive at 7am; flight to DBX at 2:30pm). I am fairly confident that is enough time between gates but my question is this: How much time should I give for me and my wife to get out of the airport, time to explore (she wants to see the Tulips) and then get back in the airport to our gate.

Also follow up because I am new to international travel. I am a GM and she is a plan ordinary Skymiles Member. What lounges would we have access to in AMS?

Thanks for your help!
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Originally Posted by halpin
I am going from ORD>AMS>DBX in April. I will be in Amsterdam for 7 hours (arrive at 7am; flight to DBX at 2:30pm). I am fairly confident that is enough time between gates but my question is this: How much time should I give for me and my wife to get out of the airport, time to explore (she wants to see the Tulips) and then get back in the airport to our gate.

Also follow up because I am new to international travel. I am a GM and she is a plan ordinary Skymiles Member. What lounges would we have access to in AMS?

Thanks for your help!
You'll have access to KLM lounges in AMS since you're elite+ As for times 7 hrs is plenty of time to get out. There's train service right under AMS, and I make it to central AMS all the time with a 5hr or longer layover.


Finally Dubai is DXB not DBX.
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Originally Posted by halpin
I am going from ORD>AMS>DBX in April. I will be in Amsterdam for 7 hours (arrive at 7am; flight to DBX at 2:30pm). I am fairly confident that is enough time between gates but my question is this: How much time should I give for me and my wife to get out of the airport, time to explore (she wants to see the Tulips) and then get back in the airport to our gate.

Also follow up because I am new to international travel. I am a GM and she is a plan ordinary Skymiles Member. What lounges would we have access to in AMS?

Thanks for your help!
Where are you planning to go to see tulips? IIRC this is more of a driving excursion.
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De Keukenhof of course

7 hours should be enough.
If your wife wants to see Tullips she should checkout 'de keukenhof' gardens:





http://www.keukenhof.nl/en/

It's southwest of Schiphol between Amsterdam and The Hague, google map location;

https://www.google.nl/maps/place/Keu...7db0da72386280

There is a bus leaving from Schiphol plaza several times each hour and it will take you around 30 minutes to get to the Keukenhof. They sell combi-ticket bus + Keukenhof entrance. The Keukenhof Express bus 858 from Schiphol Plaza departs from the exit by Arrivals Hall 4 (next to Starbucks).
Don't forget good shoes and clothing (in case of rain, low temperatures)

Edit:travel info here:

http://www.keukenhof.nl/en/plan-your...lic-transport/
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This is the pace for fancy show tulips. I've enjoyed just driving along secondary roads near where tulips are grown and seeing field after field of the flowers in bloom.
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