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Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Amsterdam (AMS): The Definitive Thread

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Minimum connection time at AMS
Note: when determining the airline for MCT purposes, what counts is who markets the flight, not who operates it.

Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-KL: 50 minutes

Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-DL, DL-KL, or DL-DL: 25 minutes

Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, KL-KL or KL-DL: 90 minutes

Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, DL-KL or DL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-KL or DL-KL: 60 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-DL or DL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, DL-DL, DL-KL, or KL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, KL-KL: anywhere from 40 minutes to 2 hours--it depends on the flight numbers and the dates. I've posted the raw output below to help you figure out which MCT will apply.
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2040 - FLT 4141
KL-KL II .55 FLT 602 - FLT 597 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II SUP FLT 1230 - FLT 743 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 904 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1382 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1386 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1396 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1614 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3086 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 902 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1392 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1394 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 904 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1386 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1396 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1614 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3086 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3096 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3097 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 758 - ALL OPN -02DEC18
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 894 - ALL OPN -02DEC18
KL-KL II .55 FLT 741 - ALL OPN -28FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 749 - ALL OPN -28FEB19
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 884 - ALL OPN -29MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 602 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 622 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 692 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 724 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 734 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 792 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3096
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3823
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3948
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 210 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3097 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3822 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3949 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 4102 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 4991 - ALL
KL-KL II .55 FLT 758 - ALL 03DEC18-28FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 876 - ALL 01JAN19-03FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 878 - ALL 01JAN19-03FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 434 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 604 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 606 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 608 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 741 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 749 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 882 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 884 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.55 FLT 888 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 894 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 896 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 566 - ALL 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 602 - ALL 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3400 - 3420 ALL - LIN
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3400 - 3420 ALL - FCO
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3400 - 3420 - FLT 900 - 1999 LIN - ALL
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3400 - 3420 - FLT 900 - 1999 FCO - ALL
KL-KL II .50 FLT 400 - 1999 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II .40 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II .40 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3108 - 3109
KL-KL II .50 FLT 2000 - 2369 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2370 - 2529 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 2520 - 2699 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2700 - 4999 - FLT 6000 - 6199
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2823 - 2826 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.45 FLT 2960 - 2999 - FLT 300 - 899
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 3000 - 4999 - FLT 6000 - 6199
KL-KL II .40 FLT 3108 - 3109 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3150 - 3175 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 6000 - 6199 - FLT 2700 - 4999
KL-KL II .50 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 400 - 1999
KL-KL II .50 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2000 - 2369
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2370 - 2529
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2520 - 2699
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183 GRU - ALL
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183 YVR - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 400 - 1999 - ALL EQP ALL - TRN
ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 3096 - 3099 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 3100 - 3107 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 2758 - 2759 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.40 ALL - FLT 2890 - 2899 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 320 - 329 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2520 - 2699 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2758 - 2759 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2830 - 2837 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.40 FLT 2890 - 2899 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3076 - 3079 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3120 - 3122 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 320 - 329
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 2758 - 2759
KL-KL II 2.00 ALL - FLT 2890 - 2899
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3100 - 3107
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3152 - 3173
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3646 - 3649
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 320 - 329 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 2520 - 2699 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2758 - 2759 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2823 - 2826 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2830 - 2837 - ALL
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 2890 - 2899 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2960 - 2999 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3076 - 3079 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.15 FLT 3100 - 3107 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3120 - 3122 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3150 - 3175 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3178 - 3183 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.15 FLT 3646 - 3649 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 EQP ALL - TRN GROUP3 - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.30 EQP TRN - ALL
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Old Jun 11, 03, 2:12 pm
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Minimum Connection Transfer Time at Amsterdam (AMS): The Definitive Thread

i am planning a trip this fall to rome. i am flying from dtw to ams and connecting to fco. the time between flights at ams is 1hour and 15 mins. is that enough time for a connection in ams?
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That should be plenty of time. AMS is pretty well laid out and the NW/KLM section is relatively easy to navigate.
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will i have to go through customs?
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EU customs - no bags to re-check though.
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AMS connection time, procedures

I'm connecting in AMS from a DTW (NW) flight to a VCE (KL) flight. Connection is 75 mins. Since I'm just connecting at AMS, do I go thru passport control there or in VCE? (or both?)
Do I get my luggage checked at AMS or at VCE?

So is 75 mins plenty of time (assuming flight is on time)? I'm sitting at the way-back of the bus on DTW-AMS so it may be a while before I get off the DC-10....
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You go through passport control (= immigrations) in Amsterdam. The checkpoint is between concourse E (where you'll arrive on NW metal) and the part of the terminal called "Schengen" (referring to the countries of the European Union that allow seemless travel between them). From my experience, depending on the time of day the wait can be anywhere from nothing to 15 minutes. Most of the time they have different lines for people with European passports and everybody else, so make sure you join the line that is right for you - you don't want to be turned away after waiting for a while in the wrong line.

Your checked luggage will go all the way to VCE (that's the plan, at least) without you ever seeing it in Amsterdam. Consequently, the customs inspection doesn't happen before you get to your final destination. I haven't been to VCE myself, but in most European airports the inspection is rather informal, if you even talk to a customs officer at all. They usually have two exits from the baggage claim area, one that says "nothing to declare" (in green color), the other one for people bringing in items that need to be declared (colored red). More than likely, you'll find signs posted in the baggage claim area that tell you what can and what cannot be brought into the country for free. By the way, this whole procedure is very different when you come back to the US from overseas, but you probably already know that.

75 minutes should be more than enough time to connect. I have flown through Amsterdam more than a dozen times in the last few years and never needed that much time. And the difference between the first and the last row of seats in the DC-10 shouldn't be more than maybe five minutes.

Enjoy your trip!

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I'm connecting this fall LHR-AMS-DTW and I have 4 hours in Amsterdam. Can I go out through passport control to explore the surroundings for an hour or so or will I have to stay inside the international transfer area? Any suggestions or advice?
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chrisny2:

When you arrive in AMS from London, you'll be in the "Schengen" area - in other words, you'll still need to go through passport control to get to the gate for your intercontinental flight. I believe the only restriction as far as moving around the airport goes is that once you have gone through passport control (to the E and F gates) you need to stay in that area. The reason I say this is when you go through passport control (in either direction), they look at your boarding pass for your (connecting) flight. Not sure if they would let you go through unless you are catching a flight on the other side of passport control.

With four hours to spare, you may even be able to go into the city of Amsterdam by bus or train. Haven't tried it myself, but if that interests you you should search this forum for postings by others. Or if you are into art, there is a small museum in the intercontinental part of the terminal that shows some work of Rembrandt and others. Look at http://www.schiphol.nl/ for more information on what to do at Schiphol airport.


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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by chrisny2:
I'm connecting this fall LHR-AMS-DTW and I have 4 hours in Amsterdam. Can I go out through passport control to explore the surroundings for an hour or so or will I have to stay inside the international transfer area? Any suggestions or advice?</font>
In case you'd rather visit central Amsterdam instead of hanging around Schiphol airport during your four-hour layover (why do I suspect this inquiry is forthcoming?), please check out this thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum35/HTML/006260.html
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Actually arriving from LHR you will be in the international are not Schengen.
However there should be no problem to go through into the other area if you want to visit Amsterdam. It takes about 30mins from the airport to Central station in the heart of Amsterdam.
Well worth a visit even if only a couple of hours.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by AviationFan:
chrisny2:

When you arrive in AMS from London, you'll be in the "Schengen" area - in other words, you'll still need to go through passport control to get to the gate for your intercontinental flight.
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Actually the UK is not part of Schengen. It's the EU minus UK & Ireland PLUS Norway & Iceland, IIRC. (UK wants to control their own borders thus no Schengen - and Ireland because you can freely move between UK & Ireland. As far as Iceland & Norway, they are part of the Nordic free movement area, thus their inclusion in the Schengen treaty).

Arriving from London - chrisny2, you will be in the International Area (likely the lower level of Pier D - the upper level is Schengen). As the you will be in the International area, you can just make your way over to Pier E for your NW flight to DTW.

With four hours, it might be cutting it close to get into the city. The boarding time on the NW flight will likely be 90 minutes prior, plus you must clear secondary security at the gate. You can probably make it into the city for an hour, but you'd almost be turning around once you got into the city.

There's many things to do at Schiphol and a four hour layover should go by in no time.

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1 hr connection time in AMS?

I am flying DTW-AMS-BOM all on NW metal. I have a layover of about an hour in AMS.. just wondering if an hour is enough. Thanks!
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i just had a 65-minute connection flying MSP-AMS-BLQ, and it was not a problem. The flight arrived about 10 minutes early, and I went thru immigration to the EU in about 30 seconds. I even had 15 minutes to stop in the lounge for a coffee and a snack!
As you will be heading out of the EU, you wont even have to go thru immigration. The only potential trouble for you would be a delay of the flight into AMS of more than an hour.
good luck!
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Yes.
http://www.nwa.com/travel/timetable/help.pdf
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