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Old Nov 28, 2018, 12:40 pm
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Minimum connection time at AMS
Note: when determining the airline for MCT purposes, what counts is who markets the flight, not who operates it.

Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-KL: 50 minutes

Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-DL, DL-KL, or DL-DL: 25 minutes

Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, KL-KL or KL-DL: 90 minutes

Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, DL-KL or DL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-KL or DL-KL: 60 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-DL or DL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, DL-DL, DL-KL, or KL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, KL-KL: anywhere from 40 minutes to 2 hours--it depends on the flight numbers and the dates. I've posted the raw output below to help you figure out which MCT will apply.
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2040 - FLT 4141
KL-KL II .55 FLT 602 - FLT 597 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II SUP FLT 1230 - FLT 743 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 904 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1382 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1386 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1396 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1614 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3086 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 902 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1392 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1394 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 904 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1386 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1396 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1614 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3086 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3096 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3097 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 758 - ALL OPN -02DEC18
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 894 - ALL OPN -02DEC18
KL-KL II .55 FLT 741 - ALL OPN -28FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 749 - ALL OPN -28FEB19
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 884 - ALL OPN -29MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 602 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 622 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 692 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 724 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 734 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 792 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3096
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3823
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3948
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 210 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3097 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3822 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3949 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 4102 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 4991 - ALL
KL-KL II .55 FLT 758 - ALL 03DEC18-28FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 876 - ALL 01JAN19-03FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 878 - ALL 01JAN19-03FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 434 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 604 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 606 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 608 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 741 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 749 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 882 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 884 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.55 FLT 888 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 894 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 896 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 566 - ALL 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 602 - ALL 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3400 - 3420 ALL - LIN
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3400 - 3420 ALL - FCO
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3400 - 3420 - FLT 900 - 1999 LIN - ALL
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3400 - 3420 - FLT 900 - 1999 FCO - ALL
KL-KL II .50 FLT 400 - 1999 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II .40 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II .40 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3108 - 3109
KL-KL II .50 FLT 2000 - 2369 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2370 - 2529 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 2520 - 2699 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2700 - 4999 - FLT 6000 - 6199
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2823 - 2826 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.45 FLT 2960 - 2999 - FLT 300 - 899
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 3000 - 4999 - FLT 6000 - 6199
KL-KL II .40 FLT 3108 - 3109 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3150 - 3175 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 6000 - 6199 - FLT 2700 - 4999
KL-KL II .50 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 400 - 1999
KL-KL II .50 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2000 - 2369
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2370 - 2529
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2520 - 2699
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183 GRU - ALL
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183 YVR - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 400 - 1999 - ALL EQP ALL - TRN
ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 3096 - 3099 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 3100 - 3107 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 2758 - 2759 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.40 ALL - FLT 2890 - 2899 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 320 - 329 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2520 - 2699 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2758 - 2759 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2830 - 2837 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.40 FLT 2890 - 2899 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3076 - 3079 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3120 - 3122 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 320 - 329
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 2758 - 2759
KL-KL II 2.00 ALL - FLT 2890 - 2899
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3100 - 3107
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3152 - 3173
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3646 - 3649
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 320 - 329 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 2520 - 2699 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2758 - 2759 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2823 - 2826 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2830 - 2837 - ALL
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 2890 - 2899 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2960 - 2999 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3076 - 3079 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.15 FLT 3100 - 3107 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3120 - 3122 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3150 - 3175 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3178 - 3183 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.15 FLT 3646 - 3649 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 EQP ALL - TRN GROUP3 - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.30 EQP TRN - ALL
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Old Aug 31, 2016, 2:23 pm
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Tight yes but doable. Only passport control (KMar doesn't care about Star Gold, Unobtiniums, D1/WBC/Global First pax etc).
You and the baggage should make it, no need to collect and recheck as long as the airlines have an interline agreement.
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Old Aug 31, 2016, 6:16 pm
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Then I'll go for it. Especially since I'm arriving from "clean" zone and don't have to go through security. If I miss there are other LH connections that morning via FRA, and another nonstop to MUC around noon. I'm assuming that if my luggage doesn't make it, they'll put it on that later nonstop, and if I don't make it, they'll put me in there also or on an earlier connection.

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Old Sep 3, 2016, 4:09 pm
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US to Non-schengen
Hi, my friend will be flying in to AMS from IAH, and then taking a flight to India in 2 hours. Both KLM flights. Where do the flights from US generally land and flights to India depart? Are 2 hours enough? Thanks
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Old Sep 3, 2016, 4:31 pm
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More then enough. 10-15 minutes is most likely all he needs. Both flights will be arrive/depart from the Non-Schengen Area, either lounge 2 (gates D (lower-level) and E) or lounge 3 (gates F, G and H).
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Old Sep 3, 2016, 6:32 pm
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Old Sep 8, 2016, 12:09 pm
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55 min from ATL-AMS-GVA

I will have 7 students and another chaperone. We will be in Economy. Any chance on this one?
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Old Sep 8, 2016, 2:58 pm
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55 min from ATL-AMS-GVA

I will have 7 students and another chaperone. We will be in Economy. Any chance on this one?
It'll be tight but completely doable. Just be sure to hurry and when you get to the immigration area be sure to scout out the "short connection" line if there is any sort of queue -- it was to the far right the last time I went through a couple months ago but they may not hold true with all the construction that's been going on.
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Old Sep 12, 2016, 3:45 pm
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Originally Posted by RobertS975
[July 29...]...

... And it is even possible that she might be able to use an automated passport kiosk if she is holding a US/Canadian passport. The signs are up, but not sure when they will be actually used.
Set. 8, traveling in the reverse, Schengen to non-S, airport staff were calling out "EU passports only" even though the signs above the automated machines area said US chip-enabled passports could use them.

The manual-processing line got really, really long and people were getting sweaty (including me), when another uniformed staffer said "US passports that look like this [finger pointing to small rectangular gold leaf logo that, to me, sort of looks like a chip], CAN use the automated line!" The two "EU only!" uniformed yellers looked confused and a bit put out.

A minor stampede happened, but we got through, with a few USers seeming to be flummoxed by the machines.

I hope AMS staff get clearer about the automated lines soon. In early Oct I have a moderately tight (70 mins) AMS-PRG connecx with the onward flight at noon. If I miss it, I'll have 4+ hours in AMS till the next flight. Not quite long enough to really go into town, not meaningfully, anyway. I'd have Crown Lounge access as a GM, though, wouldn't I if I miss-connect? I'm never completely sure on post-Int'l connecting lounge rules, I've rarely had need.
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Old Sep 13, 2016, 9:09 pm
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Set. 8, traveling in the reverse, Schengen to non-S, airport staff were calling out "EU passports only" even though the signs above the automated machines area said US chip-enabled passports could use them.
Transited in both directions over the past week and the signs over the automated machines clearly said EU Passports only. Would have loved to use the automated lanes with my US Passport given the lines in the manual lanes.

60-minute connection today, transiting schengen to non-schengen. We arrived at our gate exactly on time and I was near the front of the plane so I got off quick. Hustled to passport control where the line was long, was shunted to the short connection line and got through with about 5-10 minutes wait total. Hustled to D1 and then hustled to over to the departure gate in the E Concourse. Walked up just as SKY priority boarding was being called.

I hate these really tight Schiphol connections but sometimes you cannot avoid them.
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Old Sep 14, 2016, 2:41 pm
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Transited in both directions over the past week and the signs over the automated machines clearly said EU Passports only. Would have loved to use the automated lanes with my US Passport given the lines in the manual lanes.
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I hate these really tight Schiphol connections but sometimes you cannot avoid them.
Huh. If I think about it, the signs indicating US passports could use the automated EU lines were maybe 15 or 20 meters back from the rope line before the machines, not directly over them. By the time I was up close, I was in the huge scrum and hearing the staff say "EU only".

Seems like the signage as well as the staff knowledge could use a significant tune-up? The machines accepted our chip-enabled US passports just fine, and the one staffer seemed just as firm in saying OK as the others were in saying No.
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Old Sep 19, 2016, 6:25 am
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Originally Posted by RaflW
Set. 8, traveling in the reverse, Schengen to non-S, airport staff were calling out "EU passports only" even though the signs above the automated machines area said US chip-enabled passports could use them.

The manual-processing line got really, really long and people were getting sweaty (including me), when another uniformed staffer said "US passports that look like this [finger pointing to small rectangular gold leaf logo that, to me, sort of looks like a chip], CAN use the automated line!" The two "EU only!" uniformed yellers looked confused and a bit put out.
Originally Posted by woodway
Transited in both directions over the past week and the signs over the automated machines clearly said EU Passports only.
Originally Posted by RaflW
Huh. If I think about it, the signs indicating US passports could use the automated EU lines were maybe 15 or 20 meters back from the rope line before the machines, not directly over them. By the time I was up close, I was in the huge scrum and hearing the staff say "EU only".

Seems like the signage as well as the staff knowledge could use a significant tune-up? The machines accepted our chip-enabled US passports just fine, and the one staffer seemed just as firm in saying OK as the others were in saying No.
Going from non-Schengen to Schengen the self service gates only accept EU + Swiss. Going from Schengen to non-Schengen, the gates accept EU + Swiss + several others, including US. (The signs clearly state this.) This is probably also why the staff was confused.

Going from non-Schengen to Schengen is a bit of a mess now. Some big signs are up, but they haven't finished the reconstruction and so they're sort of in the wrong place. They have the tiny little signs at the entrance to the mazes, but the lines are usually way longer, so lots of people walk up confused then have to double back. And of course no priority line. Though the lack of security recheck was nice.

Also, apparently the self service gates open at 7am.
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Old Sep 22, 2016, 9:22 pm
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I've got 55 minutes at AMS:

KL CPH-AMS 1440-1605
KL AMS-ATL 1650-2020

I haven't transited AMS in five years, I take it this is going to be a little tight, yes?
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Old Sep 23, 2016, 4:16 am
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Originally Posted by CMK10
I've got 55 minutes at AMS:

KL CPH-AMS 1440-1605
KL AMS-ATL 1650-2020

I haven't transited AMS in five years, I take it this is going to be a little tight, yes?
Wouldn't worry too much, at around 16h00 you don't have to deal with the typical morning rush & that CPH-AMS flight is early most of the time.
Within 15-20 minutes you should have cleared passport control and Delta's PDC.
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Old Sep 23, 2016, 5:23 am
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Originally Posted by CMK10
KL CPH-AMS 1440-1605
KL AMS-ATL 1650-2020
Originally Posted by Grouchy
Within 15-20 minutes you should have cleared passport control and Delta's PDC.
I think that ATL flight is KLM operated, and if so doesn't PDC only apply to DL operated flights?

Also, there should be a Quick Connect line at passport control if there is a backup.
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Old Sep 23, 2016, 5:56 am
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Oooh & oops, if it's a KL6xx flight then indeed the PDC can be skipped.
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