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Old Nov 28, 2018, 12:40 pm
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Minimum connection time at AMS
Note: when determining the airline for MCT purposes, what counts is who markets the flight, not who operates it.

Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-KL: 50 minutes

Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-DL, DL-KL, or DL-DL: 25 minutes

Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, KL-KL or KL-DL: 90 minutes

Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, DL-KL or DL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-KL or DL-KL: 60 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Schengen Zone, KL-DL or DL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, DL-DL, DL-KL, or KL-DL: 50 minutes

Non-Schengen Zone to Non-Schengen Zone, KL-KL: anywhere from 40 minutes to 2 hours--it depends on the flight numbers and the dates. I've posted the raw output below to help you figure out which MCT will apply.
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2040 - FLT 4141
KL-KL II .55 FLT 602 - FLT 597 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II SUP FLT 1230 - FLT 743 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 904 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1382 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1386 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1396 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1614 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3086 - FLT 900 - 1999 OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 902 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1392 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1394 - FLT 900 - 1999 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 904 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1386 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1396 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 1614 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3086 - FLT 900 - 1999 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3096 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3097 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 758 - ALL OPN -02DEC18
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 894 - ALL OPN -02DEC18
KL-KL II .55 FLT 741 - ALL OPN -28FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 749 - ALL OPN -28FEB19
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 884 - ALL OPN -29MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 602 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 622 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 692 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 724 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 734 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 792 - ALL OPN -30MAR19
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3096
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3823
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3948
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 210 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3097 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3822 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3949 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 4102 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 4991 - ALL
KL-KL II .55 FLT 758 - ALL 03DEC18-28FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 876 - ALL 01JAN19-03FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 878 - ALL 01JAN19-03FEB19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 434 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 604 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 606 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 608 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 741 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .55 FLT 749 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 882 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 884 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.55 FLT 888 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 894 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 896 - ALL 30MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 566 - ALL 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 602 - ALL 31MAR19-26OCT19
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3400 - 3420 ALL - LIN
KL-KL II .50 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3400 - 3420 ALL - FCO
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3400 - 3420 - FLT 900 - 1999 LIN - ALL
KL-KL II .50 FLT 3400 - 3420 - FLT 900 - 1999 FCO - ALL
KL-KL II .50 FLT 400 - 1999 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II .40 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II .40 FLT 900 - 1999 - FLT 3108 - 3109
KL-KL II .50 FLT 2000 - 2369 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2370 - 2529 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 2520 - 2699 - FLT 6000 - 9999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2700 - 4999 - FLT 6000 - 6199
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2823 - 2826 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.45 FLT 2960 - 2999 - FLT 300 - 899
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 3000 - 4999 - FLT 6000 - 6199
KL-KL II .40 FLT 3108 - 3109 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3150 - 3175 - FLT 900 - 1999
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 6000 - 6199 - FLT 2700 - 4999
KL-KL II .50 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 400 - 1999
KL-KL II .50 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2000 - 2369
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2370 - 2529
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 6000 - 9999 - FLT 2520 - 2699
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183 GRU - ALL
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183 YVR - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 400 - 1999 - ALL EQP ALL - TRN
ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 3096 - 3099 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 ALL - FLT 3100 - 3107 EQP TRN - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 2758 - 2759 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.40 ALL - FLT 2890 - 2899 GROUP3 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 320 - 329 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2520 - 2699 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2758 - 2759 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 2830 - 2837 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.40 FLT 2890 - 2899 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3076 - 3079 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3120 - 3122 - ALL ALL - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 320 - 329
KL-KL II 1.05 ALL - FLT 2520 - 2699
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 2758 - 2759
KL-KL II 2.00 ALL - FLT 2890 - 2899
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3100 - 3107
KL-KL II 1.00 ALL - FLT 3152 - 3173
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3178 - 3183
KL-KL II 1.10 ALL - FLT 3646 - 3649
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 320 - 329 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.05 FLT 2520 - 2699 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2758 - 2759 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2823 - 2826 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 2830 - 2837 - ALL
KL-KL II 2.00 FLT 2890 - 2899 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.30 FLT 2960 - 2999 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3076 - 3079 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.15 FLT 3100 - 3107 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3120 - 3122 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 FLT 3150 - 3175 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.10 FLT 3178 - 3183 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.15 FLT 3646 - 3649 - ALL
KL-KL II 1.00 EQP ALL - TRN GROUP3 - GROUP3
KL-KL II 1.30 EQP TRN - ALL
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Old Feb 4, 2016, 8:32 pm
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
You'll have access to KLM lounges in AMS since you're elite+ As for times 7 hrs is plenty of time to get out. There's train service right under AMS, and I make it to central AMS all the time with a 5hr or longer layover.


Finally Dubai is DXB not DBX.
Whoops, sorry yes DXB.

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Old Feb 4, 2016, 8:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Grouchy
De Keukenhof of course

7 hours should be enough.
If your wife wants to see Tullips she should checkout 'de keukenhof' gardens:





http://www.keukenhof.nl/en/

It's southwest of Schiphol between Amsterdam and The Hague, google map location;

https://www.google.nl/maps/place/Keu...7db0da72386280

There is a bus leaving from Schiphol plaza several times each hour and it will take you around 30 minutes to get to the Keukenhof. They sell combi-ticket bus + Keukenhof entrance. The Keukenhof Express bus 858 from Schiphol Plaza departs from the exit by Arrivals Hall 4 (next to Starbucks).
Don't forget good shoes and clothing (in case of rain, low temperatures)

Edit:travel info here:

http://www.keukenhof.nl/en/plan-your...lic-transport/
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Old Feb 9, 2016, 6:23 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
Where are you planning to go to see tulips? IIRC this is more of a driving excursion.
I wrote an article about this last year, it's a perfect excursion from AMS during a layover (time permitting).

LINK

Note : above link is to an article on my website
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Old Mar 27, 2016, 12:44 pm
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Flew SEA->AMS->HEL today with a 50 minute connection at AMS. We landed only a couple minutes late but the taxi to the gate took forever. By the time I got off the plane the Helsinki flight was 30 minutes from departure. We had docked at the very far end of the E gates and I made it to the mid-C gates in about 20 minutes including the line at the passport check. I was the 2nd to last pax on the plane, the last pax was right behind me and they closed the door behind us. Unfortunately my bag was not as brisk as I was. Hope that I shows up at my hotel later tonight...
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Old May 22, 2016, 12:51 pm
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AMS gates: Schengen vs. non-Schengen & are non-Schengen never passport controlled?
I've just done a bit of research, reading this thread and other sources online to try to figure out the question: Do I go through passport control, and in particular, will my passport be stamped, at AMS if I'm arriving from the USA and traveling on to a non-Schengen country on the same day?. In the process, I found a number of useful links and info, which I decided to post here in hopes it is useful to others laying over at AMS.

First, while AMS is one building, it's divided between the Schengen and non-Schengen areas. However, I've yet to find an AMS airport map that shows clearly shows the demarcation explicitly. In particular, the line is not officially marked on either the Delta AMS map nor the maps available from AMS' website (PDF version).

Fortunately, I found this post in this thread..
Originally Posted by Grouchy
Schengen (B-C gates) and non-Schengen (E-M gates)
...which confirms the information what seems apparent from this KLM map showing the Lounges. (I see that map has a dotted blue line which is probably intended to be the non-Schengen/Schengen crossover point, but it's not labeled as such, nor is passport control labeled there.

Meanwhile, KLM's website has a video which confirms the obvious (i.e., you must go through passport control to go from non-Schengen to Schengen area). But, the video is silent as to whether you must go through passport control for a non-Schengen to a non-Schengen transfer.

Meanwhile, a TripAdvisor article and AMS' ifly.com page, this insiderflyer.nl article, and this stackexchange thread all talk about how there is definitely no passport control nor security check when transferring within Schengen. But all are vague about whether passport control is required when staying exclusively on the non-Schengen side.

Examining the AMS maps, it seems unlikely that there is any passport control between non-Schengen arrivals and departures unless you go through the Arrivals hall. And, my experience with most international airports is that you need not go through passport control if your connection is not to the local country, and in most European airports, I've found "local" typically means "Schengen". But AMS has a lot of construction over the last year and I've never been there other than to travel between Schengen and non-Schengen, so i am unsure.

Hopefully, someone knows for sure and can reply to this post. Otherwise, I'll follow up when I know for sure (which may not be until I actually travel).
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Old May 22, 2016, 1:04 pm
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Originally Posted by shipitfish
I've just done a bit of research, reading this thread and other sources online to try to figure out the question: Do I go through passport control, and in particular, will my passport be stamped, at AMS if I'm arriving from the USA and traveling on to a non-Schengen country on the same day?.
No

Non-Schengen towards non-Schengen is one (1) area, you won't go through passport control (but you might need to go through security in case your arrive from a non-safe flight -ie China, Africa etc or you might see random passport checks on arrival by the KMar)
This article (it's in dutch sorry) has two clear pictures showing the Schengen and non-Schengen area's:
http://theflyingdutchboy.blogspot.nl...-security.html
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Old May 30, 2016, 5:39 pm
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Amsterdam Observations
I have connected at AMS to/from DL from other European destinations numerous times over the past 7-8 years, but this was this past weekend was the first encounter with the new system. Routing was BOS-AMS-ZRH-AMS-BOS.

Observations: Arrived about 0530 from BOS, virtually no line at passport control. And very pleasantly, no security inspection immediately following passport control (which I am certain there used to be). Quickly made it to the C gate where my ZRH flight was scheduled for 0700. Plenty of time to spare, but did not use the KLM lounge. I was somewhat surprised that there was no passport stamp at ZRH since they are not part of the EU.

Coming home... arrived AMS at 0830 or so... about a 15 minute line at passport control, a sign which said "Sky Priority" but there really is no such line... people kept coming up and protesting but were turned away. The employee at the sign admitted it was confusing. Hopefully, a true Sky Priority line or two at passport control will become the reality.

Had enough time before my 1030 flight to BOS to visit the KL lounge between E and F. The man at the desk asked me if I had "cleared the security inspection". I had passed the D1 and E1 security signs but then he told me that there was a security inspect right outside the KL lounge. The "security" simply represented the pre-gate questions about carrying items from other people, any electronics that do not belong to you?, who packed your luggage etc. And then he pasted the 30th little sticket on the back of my passport. And that's when you find out what your actual aircraft gate is to be! (The monitors all listed D1 or E1.)

Enjoyed the lounge for about 30 minutes, then made my way over to D3 where they had just started boarding. No gate security check of carry-on luggageas in the past.

OK, here are my feelings... first Gate D3 was a mess, something in progress, really no seating. Obviuosly still under construction so give it an "incomplete". Secondly, although I never wished to admit it, I missed the second step at gate security. Although security at every gate may have been costly, I still felt that there should have been a secondary inspection at AMS before boarding US bound flights, maybe a security check for the entire pier. Who knows how good the security was at the airport of origin.
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Old May 30, 2016, 5:47 pm
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Secondly, although I never wished to admit it, I missed the second step at gate security. Although security at every gate may have been costly, I still felt that there should have been a secondary inspection at AMS before boarding US bound flights, maybe a security check for the entire pier. Who knows how good the security was at the airport of origin.
They trust people coming from Schengen zone airports (such as ZRH) had reliable security screening so they don't screen them again. The same is true for CDG. Similar to domestic travel from/within the US.
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Old May 30, 2016, 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by RobertS975
I still felt that there should have been a secondary inspection at AMS before boarding US bound flights, maybe a security check for the entire pier. Who knows how good the security was at the airport of origin.
Originally Posted by michael_v
They trust people coming from Schengen zone airports (such as ZRH) had reliable security screening so they don't screen them again. The same is true for CDG. Similar to domestic travel from/within the US.
Exactly. Though still some airports (LHR) insist on you clearing security (connections) again. Though, LHR is non-Schengen, so perhaps that has more to do with it.

I believe, that if you have cleared security at another EU airport, the need to re-screen makes no sense. The "standard" for security in the EU should be able to be trusted, IMHO.
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Old May 30, 2016, 8:27 pm
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So non-Schengen passengers do get re-screened?
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Old May 31, 2016, 12:58 am
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Depends on the country they departed from. USA; no need to clear security again.
India, China etc; yes pax do have to go clear security again
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Old May 31, 2016, 7:33 am
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Originally Posted by Grouchy
Depends on the country they departed from. USA; no need to clear security again.
India, China etc; yes pax do have to go clear security again
So how do they accomplish that? What gate piers (certainly none that arrive in C, D or E gates) at AMS get the hand luggage re-screened? And what countries... African arrivals, IST, Middle East?...
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Old May 31, 2016, 9:14 am
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Schiphol has that choice at E, F and G piers
Extra floors on top of the E, F and G piers. Transfer pax who arrive from a country with a security process that's not conform the EU-regulations will first have to go to the start of the G-pier or the filter between the E-F pier on top of the Hollland boulevard.
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Old Jun 1, 2016, 2:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Grouchy
Schiphol has that choice at E, F and G piers
Extra floors on top of the E, F and G piers. Transfer pax who arrive from a country with a security process that's not conform the EU-regulations will first have to go to the start of the G-pier or the filter between the E-F pier on top of the Hollland boulevard.
Is that why we lost the windows at the KL lounge between E and F?
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Old Jul 22, 2016, 6:17 pm
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I'm arriving into AMS from WAW on LOT and then have a connecting flight on Jet Airways from AMS - YZZ.

When I checked in online I can check in for LOT, but not JET, says it needs to be done at the airport.

So when I arrive, I clear customs and head to the transfer desk or do I need to go to Jet Airways check In?

many thanks for any help
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