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For all the hacking conspiracy theorists who think this could have been the result of a coordinated plot by China - why would the PRC government attack its closest foreign airline partner? The vast majority of PRC airlines except Air China and Hainan are partnered exclusively with Delta. There's nothing to be gained - DL is already freely sharing information, investment and expertise with MU.
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Originally Posted by BenA
(Post 27040175)
@rabidstoat, could you contact your corporate travel agent? IIRC, travel agents are empowered to do some amount of rebooking on Delta's behalf.
If I don't get a call back tonight before they close I'll try the travel agent route, but with my luck, Delta will call me back while I'm on the phone with the travel agent! |
Originally Posted by raehl311
(Post 27040456)
So I have a friend who just landed on a FCO-ATL return, connecting ATL-CAK, which is delayed 2 hours to currently depart around midnight. I'm going to bet this flight will ultimately cancel.
Southwest has a direct flight at 9:40 PM for $164. If my friend books and flies this flight: 1) Will there be a refund for the unflown segment on DL, assuming they cancel it? 2) What happens to their checked bags? Edit: Nevermind on 2), got them to hold onto their bags after customs. |
slashdot thread:
https://it.slashdot.org/story/16/08/...omputer-outage one of the comments links to this FT thread, so now it's full circle :D |
Originally Posted by Stgermainparis
(Post 27040520)
I highly recommend a sure thing with Southwest. Flights are being canceled left and right out of ATL. I was sitting on 2 flights last night only to be told AFTER AN HOUR that it was canceled.
He decided to just do today's meeting over the telephone, but he's trying to get to his more important meeting tomorrow morning, ATL-BWI. Poor guy got a 6 hour delay just last Sunday flying back from MCO, he's had a rough time of it. |
Originally Posted by ATOBTTR
(Post 27039918)
Between the fee just to rent the car, potential underage fees (many companies will rent to under 25 year olds but will charge a hefty fee to do it - and given that they're newly-weds coming from SLC there's likely an even higher than average chance they are under 25 years old), one-way drop off penalties, and then consider that many one-way rentals will hit you for mileage driven rather than "unlimited miles", and you could be looking at several hundred dollars - money that a young couple may not have. Don't see the reason so many on here need to be harsh when they don't know the full circumstances of the situation.
Heck looking at the pictures from AJC, they may even be under 21 years old and thus not even old enough to rent a car. |
So glad I decided to sit out August travel on DL this year, usually go cross-country right about now for my Dad's birthday.
Re-routed or trapped over the years over blizzards, airport hijacking shootouts (Larnaca) and blood-in-the-streets purges (Addis Ababa), but it's nice to sit one out for a change. My backyard looks pretty good right now. |
To give perspective on the cancellations for today:
By carrier: Cancel #/% Delay #/% 616 16% 941 25% Delta 17 4% 41 11% Compass Airlines 16 0% 183 10% ExpressJet 4 0% 53 7% Endeavor Air By hub: 198 13% 374 25% Hartsfield-Jackson Intl (KATL) 37 3% 101 9% Los Angeles Intl (KLAX) 25 3% 89 12% Minneapolis/St Paul Intl (KMSP) 24 5% 58 12% Salt Lake City Intl (KSLC) 17 2% 84 12% Detroit Metro Wayne Co (KDTW) 14 2% 59 8% Seattle-Tacoma Intl (KSEA) 13 2% 52 8% LaGuardia (KLGA) ATL is taking the most of it in terms of cancellations and its primarily hitting MD88,MD90,717 operated flights the most. Many of them are the domestic short-haul mainline flights. The international flights are mostly operating, albet delays and out-of-position aircraft persist. MSP & SLC are taking the brunt of domestic A319 & A320 cancellations, but they are much smaller in scale than ATL. DCI carriers are are operating close to normal. One can assume they are going to try to get the narrow body mainline airplanes and crews in position tonight as much as possible to reset and operate a more normal schedule tomorrow, however it sounds like lingering system issues are still creating throughput/capacity reduction system-wide. |
Just updated wiki with about three more updates, Delta just released a Q&A regarding compensation that may clear up some confusion.
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Originally Posted by bubbashow
(Post 27035710)
That will be interesting to watch. I know that a lot of crew is out of place right now and those cancellations are done. Now, if they aren't being honest about the state of the network (as evidenced by a poster a few minutes ago stating they were manually writing a manifest), that would probably change!
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I was caught up in this mess. I was due to fly out of LGA to DTW on DL 2331 due out at 8:50pm Monday. About 8pm they announce that the flight that has our crew is delayed till early morning and the new departure time was 6am(the md-88 for our flight was at the gate parked but no crew). The Delta app wasn't working kept crashing but was able to rebook via a gate agent to DL2807. Some people asked but they claimed they can't book you on another carrier. 2807 was originally supposed to depart around 5pm but it was delayed till 10pm which Is why I was able to get on it. Got my same seat and class (delta first). The 10pm departure came and went due to traffic on the runway and finding a gate. They ended up moving the MD-88 and parking the Airbus there so they could unload the pax clean and stock the plane. We finally departed around 12am. They filled the plane as to get as many people home as possible. Landing at DTW was uneventful no wait for a gate. Only hiccup was a last minute baggage carousel change and my cab was delayed 40 minutes cause of all the delayed flights stretched them thin. I think 2331 ended up being cancelled. Delta did pass out those red blankets for those sticking it out in the terminal for the 6am departure time. The pilots and crew on my flight were friendly and kept providing updates and information and the pilot also explained why the failure happened.
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Originally Posted by mpheels
(Post 27039729)
They are Mormons and newlyweds - regardless of the monetary outlay required, they are almost certainly younger than 25, and probably not going to be approved for a last minute, one-way car rental.
Not glamorous, but it's 5 hours or so and then you're enjoying your vacation. Yes, it's money but....you're really going on your honeymoon or travelling overseas without even $100 for contingencies?
Originally Posted by DTWflyer
(Post 27040630)
One can assume they are going to try to get the narrow body mainline airplanes and crews in position tonight as much as possible to reset and operate a more normal schedule tomorrow, however it sounds like lingering system issues are still creating throughput/capacity reduction system-wide.
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Originally Posted by javabytes
(Post 27040736)
At the moment, Delta is up to 616 cancelled and 944 delayed flights today.
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Originally Posted by javabytes
(Post 27040736)
At the moment, Delta is up to 616 cancelled and 944 delayed flights today.
684 cancelled and 1999 delayed so far with quite a lot more coming the rest of the day. There are already 54 flights cancelled for tomorrow as well. |
Originally Posted by sfozrhfco
(Post 27040806)
Think you missed about 1,000 delays:)
684 cancelled and 1999 delayed so far with quite a lot more coming the rest of the day. There are already 54 flights cancelled for tomorrow as well. |
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