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wrp96 Aug 9, 2016 11:42 am


Originally Posted by vincentharris (Post 27038899)
His wife, and him are 2 clowns, They made it 90% of the way getting to ATL. Rent a damn car, and drive the 5ish hours instead of waiting for food vouchers.

Just an FYI, a rental car may not have been possible. There is trip report from the Southwest debacle a few weeks ago where a couple tried to get a rental car and couldn't find a single company that was allowing a one way rental from their location (or anywhere close). It's very possible that people may have encountered similar situations yesterday even if they had tried for rental cars.

dzflyer Aug 9, 2016 11:43 am


Originally Posted by TheLifeOfA_NKCM (Post 27038903)
So help me god. And to think I was going to even consider a connection through ATL. Nope.

If LAX is that bad, I can only imagine what poor Widgets is dealing with.

May have to call in the national gaurd to all delta hubs if this doesnt get fixed pretty soon. Not a good day to be a delta employee. That is for sure.

MSPeconomist Aug 9, 2016 11:43 am


Originally Posted by flyerCO (Post 27038302)
They don't see the vouchers. Those go straight into your SM account as e-credits. This isn't a refund of fare paid or voucher for cancelling a non-refundable fare, this is a customer service gesture. Company will have no way of knowing who was issued one or for how much.

My employer's policy is that any airline vouchers (same for hotels, car rentals, etc.) earned on business travel that's reimbursed by the employer are to be used for later business travel, regardless of the account that's funding the travel. This means that I never take VDBs for trips paid by my employer. We're pretty much on our honor to keep records and properly spend the vouchers for business travel as it would be extremely difficult to check this under normal circumstances.

Widgets Aug 9, 2016 11:46 am


Originally Posted by TheLifeOfA_NKCM (Post 27038903)
So help me god. And to think I was going to even consider a connection through ATL. Nope.

If LAX is that bad, I can only imagine what poor Widgets is dealing with.

I'm actually in pretty good shape. Extra staffing and minimal delays where I'm at :) but every flight is overbooked for days.

Rabidstoat Aug 9, 2016 11:46 am


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 27038932)
My employer's policy is that any airline vouchers (same for hotels, car rentals, etc.) earned on business travel that's reimbursed by the employer are to be used for later business travel, regardless of the account that's funding the travel. This means that I never take VDBs for trips paid by my employer. We're pretty much on our honor to keep records and properly spend the vouchers for business travel as it would be extremely difficult to check this under normal circumstances.

I had assumed that was our policy, but my direct boss told me not to worry about it for $200. To treat it like frequent flyer miles which we do get to keep. Surprised me, but I wasn't looking forward to figuring out how to use the voucher through our mandatory travel web site, or how to account for it on an expense report (as it draws directly from our corporate card for expenses).

dzflyer Aug 9, 2016 11:46 am


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 27038932)
My employer's policy is that any airline vouchers (same for hotels, car rentals, etc.) earned on business travel that's reimbursed by the employer are to be used for later business travel, regardless of the account that's funding the travel. This means that I never take VDBs for trips paid by my employer. We're pretty much on our honor to keep records and properly spend the vouchers for business travel as it would be extremely difficult to check this under normal circumstances.

Big risk to take if you break company policy and someone finds out. If an employee did this who worked for me, i would think they were stealing from me in other ways as well and termination would be immediate.

KDCAflyer Aug 9, 2016 11:47 am


Originally Posted by dzflyer (Post 27038931)
May have to call in the national gaurd to all delta hubs if this doesnt get fixed pretty soon. Not a good day to be a delta employee. That is for sure.

Lmao.

CVG appears to be mostly back to normal. Regional operators weren't hit nearly as hard, and CVG is 50-seater central. Good day to connect through here I imagine.

vincentharris Aug 9, 2016 11:54 am


Originally Posted by wrp96 (Post 27038921)
Just an FYI, a rental car may not have been possible. There is trip report from the Southwest debacle a few weeks ago where a couple tried to get a rental car and couldn't find a single company that was allowing a one way rental from their location (or anywhere close). It's very possible that people may have encountered similar situations yesterday even if they had tried for rental cars.

Do a round trip rental. Worst case you dump it off in Hilton Head, and pay a penalty after the fact. Enjoy your honeymoon and worry about the fees X rental car company charge you later.

Better to beg for forgiveness, then ask for permission in this case.

There are plenty of car rentals available around Atlanta right now.

TheLifeOfA_NKCM Aug 9, 2016 11:56 am


Originally Posted by dzflyer (Post 27038931)
May have to call in the national gaurd to all delta hubs if this doesnt get fixed pretty soon. Not a good day to be a delta employee. That is for sure.

Yeah..

What's sad is that ACS, well just all CSRs were and still are as dumbstruck and informed as we are. It's kind of hard to know whats going on or what to do with something you have little control over. Thats ITs job, and they failed -bad.

In the end, there had to be some human error or missed factor overlooked. DL has generators, so the fact that they didn't cutover to it is shocking.

To all those in reservations and refunds my condolences are equally as high. The amount of enraged passengers who missed their cruises and events is insane and it's really sad how they take it out on the front line, forgetting how little control they have over the situation and what they can do. More-so, with how many people are dissatisfied with the $200 waivers. It's hard to help someone with stuff like this when there's only so little you yourself can do ..So it's very appreciated. Those who are stuck, I feel ya', but just remember you could be flying RyanAir two days in a row w/ a somehow excited Rene. ;)

TheLifeOfA_NKCM Aug 9, 2016 11:59 am


Originally Posted by vincentharris (Post 27038993)
Do a round trip rental. Worst case you dump it off in Hilton Head, and pay a penalty after the fact. Enjoy your honeymoon and worry about the fees X rental car company charge you later.

Better to beg for forgiveness, then ask for permission in this case.

There are plenty of car rentals available around Atlanta right now.

I guess today was a good time to get my free day.

It's a shame you can't transfer them.

motytrah Aug 9, 2016 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by MSPeconomist (Post 27038932)
My employer's policy is that any airline vouchers (same for hotels, car rentals, etc.) earned on business travel that's reimbursed by the employer are to be used for later business travel, regardless of the account that's funding the travel. This means that I never take VDBs for trips paid by my employer. We're pretty much on our honor to keep records and properly spend the vouchers for business travel as it would be extremely difficult to check this under normal circumstances.

Could be worse. There's a major employer in the MSP area that confiscates all the DL miles on their tickets. It's part of their preferred airline agreement.

Stgermainparis Aug 9, 2016 12:00 pm

I've now heard DL is refunding all flights that were affected. Anyone know? Have a link? I was due out of ATL test day at 6. Now bumped around today for 8 pm departure. I'm actually not optimistic bc many others have been canceled today.

MSPeconomist Aug 9, 2016 12:01 pm


Originally Posted by dzflyer (Post 27038949)
Big risk to take if you break company policy and someone finds out. If an employee did this who worked for me, i would think they were stealing from me in other ways as well and termination would be immediate.

I once was anal about a silly little $5 voucher I got for doing OLCI when it was first introduced by PMNW. If I had known that using OLCI was going to automatically generate the voucher, I would have checked in with an agent at the airport.

StayingHomeIsBetter Aug 9, 2016 12:02 pm


Originally Posted by vincentharris (Post 27037547)
Honestly instead of a dumb 58 second video from the CEO, I would just like them to come out, and admit what really happened.

...

In fairness, they may be aware of WHAT happened, but not yet know WHY.

MSPeconomist Aug 9, 2016 12:03 pm


Originally Posted by motytrah (Post 27039023)
Could be worse. There's a major employer in the MSP area that confiscates all the DL miles on their tickets. It's part of their preferred airline agreement.

Target, right?


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