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Delta's Operational move from T5 to T2/3 at LAX:


Delta has moved to: T2 and T3 with eventual connector to TBIT (note: there is currently only airside bus service to stay securely between T2 & T3, the walking connector has not been built yet.)

Where to check bags: As of January 13, 2020, non-Sky Priority customers must check their bag(s) at the terminal their flight departs from, unless their flight departs from TBIT, in which case, they must check their bag at Terminal 2. Sky priority customers can check their bag at either terminal. See this link for more information.

Date(s) of move: May 12, 2017 - May 17, 2017

Here is a helpful chart from Delta which covers all Domestic / Int'l. transfer combos (AND TOTAL TRANSFER TIMES) between T2, T3 & TBIT.

New Bus Routes will help with connections:
- Circular Airfield Bus between TBIT, T2 and T3
- Airfield Bus between T2 and T3

Bus Map

Will there be a SkyClub: Yes, there is one in each terminal. Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse will remain.
- The SkyClub in T2 opened on May 20th (Former AC Maple Leaf Lounge)
pix in post 1058
- The SkyClub in T3 opened on May 24th (Former VX Loft)

https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...d-updates.html

Where Will The Delta One Check In Lounge Be Located:

Delta will temporarily offer dedicated check-in space in Terminal 2 (first door closest to T1) while a long-term Delta One experience is finalized.
In T2, there is a small Delta One seating area with refreshments. An agent will escort you from the check in/lounge area through a back pathway up stairs to TSA precheck. Its a shorter walk to check-in at SkyPriority and easier if you have a carry on and don't want to drag it up a flight of stairs. 11/3/17)

Airlines joining DL in T2/3 for landside and departures:
- AeroMexico (T2)
- Virgin Atlantic (T2)
- WestJet (T3)

Landside T2 only, departures from TBIT:
- Virgin Australia
- Volaris

Landside T3 only, departures from TBIT:
- Avianca/Taca
- Copa (effective April 7)
- InterJet

Will there be secure links between T2-T3 and TBIT: Yes, the final plan is to let pax walk between all airside.

External Links:
Press Release: http://news.delta.com/delta-relocate...rough-19b-plan

Rough link showing T2/3 connector:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmrq1UEAEUiF3.jpg

Proposed schedule from LAWA presentation:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmMDLVUAA1vNM.jpg

Delta fact sheet:
http://www.lawa.org/uploadedFiles/LA...ease-Delta.pdf

Delta's LAX destination page featuring 'Delta Sky Way at LAX':
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-terminal.html
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Old Mar 14, 2017, 7:09 pm
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There will be an airside bus between T2, T3, and Bradley, so you could still access lounges in Bradley.
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I think DL ops are going a bit sideways right now due to swapping gates with AA. I was on OAK-LAX yesterday arriving at T6... except there was no gates available at T6 so we sat in the plane near remote parking for 1 hour waiting for something to open. This was on top of a 1 hour sitting in the plane at OAK due to LAX ground delays (due to FAA not DL).

Actual flight time was 57 minutes.

Actual time spend in an E-175 was 3:35.
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There are a bunch of popup banners in T6 advertising DL clearing out of AS' terminal

I almost ran over one... they're all over.
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Originally Posted by bzcat
I think DL ops are going a bit sideways right now due to swapping gates with AA. I was on OAK-LAX yesterday arriving at T6... except there was no gates available at T6 so we sat in the plane near remote parking for 1 hour waiting for something to open. This was on top of a 1 hour sitting in the plane at OAK due to LAX ground delays (due to FAA not DL).

Actual flight time was 57 minutes.

Actual time spend in an E-175 was 3:35.
It's not unusual to sit on the ground at LAX for an hour waiting for a gate even when there isn't a terminal swap in progress.
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Old Mar 15, 2017, 6:33 pm
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Not much different to when AA (nee US) had those gates.

I had to be rebooked last year after the inbound AA aircraft landed on time but due to connection could not get to gate 60 - after an hour they gated at T4 to offload PAX before finally getting towed to the gate about 80 minutes after touching down.


... only 2 months to go ...

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Old Mar 21, 2017, 5:59 pm
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The relocation will begin the night of May 12 and will continue with additional overnight moves on May 14 and May 16, with a scheduled completion of May 17. Delta flights will operate from as many as four terminals (2, 3, 5 and 6) on certain days of the move, so the airline will be in constant communication with customers, providing real-time information on departure and arrival terminals and gates through the Fly Delta app, text messages, emails and additional channels.
21 airlines moving over a few nights during a single week. Going to be quite a feat.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/deltas...221500748.html

More info on the overall set of moves from LAWA. It appears VA remains in TBIT but moves check-in from T3 to T2.
http://www.lawa.org/newsContentbs.aspx?ID=2311

ETA: also looks like EI remains in T2, I had thought they were moving.

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Originally Posted by ty97
21 airlines moving over a few nights during a single week. Going to be quite a feat.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/deltas...221500748.html

More info on the overall set of moves from LAWA. It appears VA remains in TBIT but moves check-in from T3 to T2.
http://www.lawa.org/newsContentbs.aspx?ID=2311

ETA: also looks like EI remains in T2, I had thought they were moving.
Looks like VA customers sorta get screwed. Right now they arrive and are processed at TBIT. Come May they not only checkin at T2 and be bussed to TBIT, they'll arrive there and be bussed to T2 for immigration/customs.
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Looks like VA customers sorta get screwed. Right now they arrive and are processed at TBIT. Come May they not only checkin at T2 and be bussed to TBIT, they'll arrive there and be bussed to T2 for immigration/customs.
Not really; however, the bus seems strange.

Check-in/departure? ok, the landside walk from check-in increases from about 100 yards to 300. Maybe the bus relates to airside transits from DL to VA.

Arrival/Customs? Can't see why a bus would necessary when there is a perfectly good CBP area at TBIT - you still end up landside.

The better news is that VA Platinums (top level) will get to use the EK lounge at TBIT while business passengers and VA Golds will use the EY lounge. I presume DL elites would have EY access when on VA metal.

http://newsroom.virginaustralia.com/...operations-lax

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Not really; however, the bus seems strange.

Check-in/departure? ok, the landside walk from check-in increases from about 100 yards to 300. Maybe the bus relates to airside transits from DL to VA.

Arrival/Customs? Can't see why a bus would necessary when there is a perfectly good CBP area at TBIT - you still end up landside.

The better news is that VA Platinums (top level) will get to use the EK lounge at TBIT while business passengers and VA Golds will use the EY lounge. I presume DL elites would have EY access when on VA metal.

http://newsroom.virginaustralia.com/...operations-lax
The info linked to above on the LAX airport website shows that VA will move checkin to T2 and that while the plane will arrive and depart from TBIT, that they'll be bussed to/from T2. I don't get why they would do that on arrival. TBIT has round the clock CBP available while T2 is only at certain hours. However it's what is listed as going to happen. Hopefully it's an error and the person typing didn't understand that VA would clear at TBIT upon arrival.

I was happy to see VS is starting a third daily flight. I'm curious what timing it is at.
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I suspect it is as simple as an airside bus with the copy clerk not understanding.
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Originally Posted by serfty
I suspect it is as simple as an airside bus with the copy clerk not understanding.
Of course it's airside. The question is upon arrival will VA flight passengers then be bussed to T2 to clear or will they continue like now clearing at TBIT. It makes no sense not to clear at TBIT, but the document suggests otherwise.
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I would be very surprised if they bus people from TBIT to T2 on arrival. That sentence doesn't even make grammatical sense anyway. The only potential reason I can think of is to provide relief on TBIT's busier immigration facility and give shorter wait times (though that would only be successful if the flight schedules at both terminals lined up right).

On departure of course there would be no need to take a bus to TBIT, you could just take the quick walk landside after checking in and go through security there.

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Of course it's airside. The question is upon arrival will VA flight passengers then be bussed to T2 to clear or will they continue like now clearing at TBIT. It makes no sense not to clear at TBIT, but the document suggests otherwise.
You have missed the point I was trying to make

There are three main "types" of bus travel around LAX:
  1. Landside (Like the C bus)
  2. Airside (like AA's T4 to Eagles nest bus)
  3. Pre-Immigreation/Customs (Like when you land at gates 2xx over near the beach etc. and get bussed back to TBIT).
I suspect the bus is referring to "2" as it makes no sense otherwise. I really do doubt VA arrival PAX will be bussed as in "3" from TBIT over to T2 for CBP processing.

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Old Mar 22, 2017, 8:20 am
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Here's a helpful PDF showing where everyone is going. (I didn't see this already posted)

http://www.lawa.org/uploadedFiles/LA...-Map-FINAL.pdf
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Old Mar 22, 2017, 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
Looks like VA customers sorta get screwed. Right now they arrive and are processed at TBIT. Come May they not only checkin at T2 and be bussed to TBIT, they'll arrive there and be bussed to T2 for immigration/customs.
That does look crazy. Wasn't one of the points of DL's move to T2/T3 to bring their joint venture partners like VA under the same roof? Is that happening eventually but waiting for more gate space? Or does "under the same roof" mean you check in under the same roof but then have a relatively-long walk or bus ride to get to the actual airplane, which is the worst of both world?
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