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Delta's Operational move from T5 to T2/3 at LAX:

Delta has moved to: T2 and T3 with eventual connector to TBIT (note: there is currently only airside bus service to stay securely between T2 & T3, the walking connector has not been built yet.)

Where to check bags: As of January 13, 2020, non-Sky Priority customers must check their bag(s) at the terminal their flight departs from, unless their flight departs from TBIT, in which case, they must check their bag at Terminal 2. Sky priority customers can check their bag at either terminal. See this link for more information.

Date(s) of move: May 12, 2017 - May 17, 2017

Here is a helpful chart from Delta which covers all Domestic / Int'l. transfer combos (AND TOTAL TRANSFER TIMES) between T2, T3 & TBIT.

New Bus Routes will help with connections:
- Circular Airfield Bus between TBIT, T2 and T3
- Airfield Bus between T2 and T3

Bus Map

Will there be a SkyClub: Yes, there is one in each terminal. Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse will remain.
- The SkyClub in T2 opened on May 20th (Former AC Maple Leaf Lounge)
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- The SkyClub in T3 opened on May 24th (Former VX Loft)

https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...d-updates.html

Where Will The Delta One Check In Lounge Be Located:

Quote:

Delta will temporarily offer dedicated check-in space in Terminal 2 (first door closest to T1) while a long-term Delta One experience is finalized.

In T2, there is a small Delta One seating area with refreshments. An agent will escort you from the check in/lounge area through a back pathway up stairs to TSA precheck. Its a shorter walk to check-in at SkyPriority and easier if you have a carry on and don't want to drag it up a flight of stairs. 11/3/17)

Airlines joining DL in T2/3 for landside and departures:
- AeroMexico (T2)
- Virgin Atlantic (T2)
- WestJet (T3)

Landside T2 only, departures from TBIT:
- Virgin Australia
- Volaris

Landside T3 only, departures from TBIT:
- Avianca/Taca
- Copa (effective April 7)
- InterJet

Will there be secure links between T2-T3 and TBIT: Yes, the final plan is to let pax walk between all airside.

External Links:
Press Release: http://news.delta.com/delta-relocate...rough-19b-plan

Rough link showing T2/3 connector:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmrq1UEAEUiF3.jpg

Proposed schedule from LAWA presentation:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmMDLVUAA1vNM.jpg

Delta fact sheet:
http://www.lawa.org/uploadedFiles/LA...ease-Delta.pdf

Delta's LAX destination page featuring 'Delta Sky Way at LAX':
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-terminal.html

LAX 2017 Terminal Move: The Definitive Thread

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Mar 22, 2017, 10:07 am

#316

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Originally Posted by DCAproducer

Here's a helpful PDF showing where everyone is going. (I didn't see this already posted)

http://www.lawa.org/uploadedFiles/LA...-Map-FINAL.pdf

Hmm, this map dated 3/20/17 shows EI in TBIT. The 3/21/17 press release from LAWA indicates EI remains in T2. (Earlier this year, it was indicated EI was moving to T6). Would certainly make sense for EI to vacate T2, but wonder what's going on here?

Mar 22, 2017, 10:32 am

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Originally Posted by ty97

TBIT would not be the optimal place for EI since they do precleared arrivals. While it's possible to do domestic and precleared arrivals there, it's pretty clunky as the terminal was not designed for it. There is no signage that points to the exit from the gates, so they have to put employees standing throughout the terminal holding up signs. The exit from security dumps you out into the ticketing hall, and then you basically have to go outside, downstairs, walk to the northernmost end of TBIT near T3, and then walk back into the building, again with people standing and holding signs the whole way. And when you finally get to the domestic baggage claim, it's tiny, nowhere near enough capacity to handle a widebody, so staff have to constantly take bags off as they come out.

I think the best place for them would be T5 or T6. That would give them both easy arrivals and ease of connection to their current and future partners.

Mar 22, 2017, 10:44 am

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Originally Posted by ashill

That does look crazy. Wasn't one of the points of DL's move to T2/T3 to bring their joint venture partners like VA under the same roof? Is that happening eventually but waiting for more gate space? Or does "under the same roof" mean you check in under the same roof but then have a relatively-long walk or bus ride to get to the actual airplane, which is the worst of both world?

They are going to try and bring some of partners under the same roof, but there isn't enough room for all of them, so some will have to operate from TBIT. It isn't anywhere in the press release or map posted here, but I heard Delta plans on operating some of their own international flights from TBIT as well. They plan on building a T2-T3-TBIT airside connector to make connections easier. In the meantime they will have airside buses.

The reason they have some TBIT airlines checking in at T2 and T3 is that TBIT has plenty of gate capacity with the renovation, but very limited check-in hall capacity.

Mar 22, 2017, 11:50 am

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Originally Posted by serfty

You have missed the point I was trying to make

There are three main "types" of bus travel around LAX:

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Pre-Immigreation/Customs (Like when you land at gates 161 over near the beach etc. and get bussed back to TBIT).

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Those gates at the remote terminals at the west end of the airport are numbered in the 200's.

Mar 22, 2017, 2:53 pm

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Those gates at the remote terminals at the west end of the airport are numbered in the 200's.

Sure, I was doing it from memory.

Those number have changed a lot over the years.

But the point remains, I can't see that sort of bussing to shunt PAX arriving at TBIT across to T2/T3 to be processed.

Mar 22, 2017, 3:12 pm

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Originally Posted by serfty

Sure, I was doing it from memory.

Those number have changed a lot over the years.

But the point remains, I can't see that sort of busing to shunt PAX arriving at TBIT across to T2/T3 to be processed.

But if they are stuck using the remote stands, then busing in to T2 makes more sense than busing in to TBIT as the connection will likely be closer.

There will be a lot of remote gates being used in this dance.

Mar 22, 2017, 3:58 pm

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In those cases, then yes, but hopefully not too often. However, current indications are VA will continue to use TBIT after the "dance".

Mar 22, 2017, 4:12 pm

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Originally Posted by exwannabe

There will be a lot of remote gates being used in this dance.

Ugh, they couldn't finish that Midfield Satellite Concourse soon enough...

I'm lucky, I always get a jetbridge at LAX and have never had to deal with the remote gates. When are they using them most often now?

Mar 22, 2017, 4:49 pm

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Originally Posted by ty97

When you look at the map now it shows EI in T2 -- maybe they updated the map to match the press release...

Mar 23, 2017, 6:47 am

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But VA already checks in at T3. They're just moving that to T2, forcing them to take the airside bus?

Mar 23, 2017, 7:18 am

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Originally Posted by serfty

Not really; however, the bus seems strange.

Check-in/departure? ok, the landside walk from check-in increases from about 100 yards to 300. Maybe the bus relates to airside transits from DL to VA.

Arrival/Customs? Can't see why a bus would necessary when there is a perfectly good CBP area at TBIT - you still end up landside.

The better news is that VA Platinums (top level) will get to use the EK lounge at TBIT while business passengers and VA Golds will use the EY lounge. I presume DL elites would have EY access when on VA metal.

http://newsroom.virginaustralia.com/...operations-lax

How does this play out - buses, walking, lounges - for me in late Nov when I go OKC-ATL-LAX on DL then switch to VA for SYD and AKL? (My return is all DL metal.)

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Mar 23, 2017, 7:22 am

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Originally Posted by yoboseyo

But VA already checks in at T3. They're just moving that to T2, forcing them to take the airside bus?

No, nobody is forced to take the airside bus. You can just check in at T2 and walk over to TBIT, just like you'd walk from T3 today. It just means a little bit longer of a walk. The only time it would make sense to use the airside bus is if you had a arrived domestically in T2 and wanted to connect to TBIT.

I assume they did this because they wanted to consolidate check-in areas by alliance as much as possible.

Mar 23, 2017, 8:22 am

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Originally Posted by DCAproducer

Here's a helpful PDF showing where everyone is going. (I didn't see this already posted)

http://www.lawa.org/uploadedFiles/LA...-Map-FINAL.pdf

Thanks for the link. Personally, I prefer Cranky Flier's diagrams (even though a few of the airline terminal assignments are incorrect)

http://crankyflier.com/2016/10/24/th...-theyre-going/

Mar 23, 2017, 8:31 am

#329

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For the last two years, it seems UA bled premium traffic during its horrific construction period, awful lounge setup, etc. I always had the feeling that DL expertly took advantage of the situation. Looks like the shoe is going to be on the other foot now.

I have high faith in DL's ability to execute something like this, but even with that I find it hard not to envision DL @ LAX becoming a very unpleasant experience for quite some time.

UA (&AA) seem to have a good opportunity in front of them. As someone mentioned, it's a good time for DL to beef up its LGB flights and awarenesss!

Mar 23, 2017, 9:06 am

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kumulani

They did it because TBIT is short on check in counters