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Bilt Rewards Mastercard WikiPost
(10/7/23 Original author (Dr Jabadski) note: As I posted here on 9/9/23 “Considering I’ve been salivating about simple no-cost points-etizing (like monetizing) my condo payments for about 25 years, I see Bilt as a game changer.” I should have added “almost a Holy Grail” (a thing that is eagerly pursued or sought after). I successfully applied for a Bilt Mastercard 1 month ago thus I’m far from an expert. Both before and after approval I posted multiple questions many times on this thread and several other FTers were highly gracious and informative. Thought a WikiPost might save some others a good deal of time, effort and aggravation, at least in not repeating my questions and searching for the answers. I certainly hope the experts will edit and update this WikiPost as necessary. I’m also exercising Writer's Prerogative to officially coin the term “pointsetize”, like monetize “convert into or express in the form of currency”, to earn points from payments which otherwise would not earn points.)
Bilt Rewards Mastercard (Bilt MC) was first launched in mid-2021, in good part as a no fee way to charge and pointsetize rent payments. (Perhaps the only no fee way to pointsetize rent payments.) There are multiple reports of earning Bilt points for paying condominium monthly maintenance/common charges, sometimes even when the word “condo” or “condominium” is in the transaction description.
Bilt MC is a personal credit card, WF reports credit card information to the various credit bureaus and Bilt MC will count toward Chase 5/24.
This post and this post (both from 9/7/23) describe shutdown reports perhaps related to “micro transactions”, fluctuating rent payment amounts or multiple rent payments. This 10/11/23 post includes several references to Reddit user quotes about shutdowns and several Reddit Bilt quotes in response.
Linksto Bilt Rewards Terms of Use and Evolve Bank & Trust (Bilt Technologies) Customer Account Agreement. The Terms state “Bilt may make available to you a Bilt Rent Account (“Account”), which is a transaction bank account that can be used by you solely to make rent payments.” The Agreement states: “For the avoidance of doubt, the Account is a transaction bank account that can be used by you solely to make rent payments. For the avoidance of doubt, this is not an account that you may use to deposit or withdraw funds for any other purposes outside of rent payments.”
Bilt MC is a metal card weighing ~16 grams (comparisons: AmEx biz plat 18.5 gm, AmEx Gold 15 gm, Chase Sapphire Reserve 13 gm, traditional plastic card 5 gm).
Bilt Mastercard is issued and managed by Wells Fargo. Bilt Rewards is a separate website and app (which contains some credit card information but not as much as WF website).
Most reports are of instant approvals, Wells Fargo reconsideration phone number and experiences are not well documented. Reported initial Credit Limits vary $4,000 - $30,000 with higher limits more commonly reported. This post (9/1/23) describes one instance of a “Something went wrong” message upon application and the steps toward approval several days later.
In March/April 2025 Bilt initiated a new and different process for paying rent and HOA fees which requires “preauthorization” and/or "auto-pre-authorization" within 5 days of payment.Rent payments can be made in multiple different ways. Bilt will provide a (bank) routing number and account number. ACH rent payments can be sent (deposited) by Bilt or withdrawn by a managing company.
Bilt MC is shipped via trackable no-signature-required First Class mail in a small (4.5” x 6.5”) white box with unique packaging inside as pictured at the bottom of this post. As of Feb 2024 no reports of expedited shipping.
Reports on this thread starting in late November 2023 indicate this "quasi-SUB" may be offered randomly and/or only to some people, selection criteria unknown. This post may be the only report of being offered the quasi-SUB prior to Bilt Mastercard application, based on existing Bilt Rewards account. Bilt's “quasi-SUB" is offered via an email and a text message notification the same day as card receipt informing of 5x/5 days/max 50K (email quoted verbatim in this post). (Quasi* due to very short duration in contrast to many traditional SUBs of 3 month duration.) Please note this quasi-SUB maxs out at $12,500 (not $10,000) and tax payments will count. No reports yet of returns and their effect on quasi-SUB. (* “quasi-“ a combining form meaning “resembling,” “having some, but not all of the features of,” used in the formation of compound words: quasi-definition; quasi-monopoly; quasi-official; quasi-scientific.)
Newly earned Bilt points will display as “pending” until 5 transactions per statement cycle. After 5 transactions, points will post and become available shortly after a transaction, before statement date. The Bilt Rewards website has a “transaction counter” which disappears upon reaching 5.
Bilt points for linking partner programs (100 points each) and for adding a credit card to Bilt Wallet (100 points each for first 3) post immediately. Original author received 500 point bonus for first rent payment.
Bilt Rewards points are transferable at 1:1 usually within a few minutes to multiple different airline and hotel programs.
There’s discussion of the long term viability of Bilt with some of those posts linked at the bottom of this post after “BREAK”.
Bilt Status Tiers: Blue - anyone enrolled in Bilt Rewards with under 25,000 points, Silver - 25,000 points earned, Gold - 50,000 points earned, Platinum - 100,000 points earned. “Tier status earned at any point in a year remains active through the end of the following year.” “Earn Interest on Points” (Silver, Gold, Platinum Tiers) is minimal, discussed on this post and this post.
Bilt Points Quest Trivia was discontinued as of July 2024.Bilt Points Quest Trivia on the first of each month offers up to 250 points for correctly answering, within 10 seconds, 6 (out of 15-20) questions. Must get first 5 questions (10, 20, 30, 40, 50 points) correct to see the 6th “bonus” 100 point question. There’s often a Reddit thread with the Q & A. (Point Quest - October 2023 Answers) The lower half of this post has comments from a highly experienced “test taker” regarding memory, recall and “studying” for Points Quest Trivia.
Bilt Rent Free may also have been discontinued in 2024 or 2025.Bilt also has various “RentFree” games, available a few days prior to and/or on the 1st of the month, different people get different games. Could be a Family Feud style question with enough time to Google answers or a “Where's Wally?” (Bilt Brick) type of game or something else. Successful completion enters to be one of 3 people for whom Bilt pays their monthly rent (up to $2500).
List of Bilt’s Rent Day promotions going back to October 2022 at the bottom of the page here: DEALSPOINTS.
June 2024: Bottom of this post describes one person’s experience paying a significant assessment (and earning points) with Bilt MC, at this time (only 3 weeks later) no report of clawback or shutdown (based on using Bilt to pay rent more than once a month and/or for something other than rent/condo fees).
June 2024: Bottom of this post contains Bilt quotes regarding Bilt BiltProtect.
June 2024: Important post (and link) stating that WF is losing money every month on Bilt.
(10/7/23 Original author (Dr Jabadski) note: As I posted here on 9/9/23 “Considering I’ve been salivating about simple no-cost points-etizing (like monetizing) my condo payments for about 25 years, I see Bilt as a game changer.” I should have added “almost a Holy Grail” (a thing that is eagerly pursued or sought after). I successfully applied for a Bilt Mastercard 1 month ago thus I’m far from an expert. Both before and after approval I posted multiple questions many times on this thread and several other FTers were highly gracious and informative. Thought a WikiPost might save some others a good deal of time, effort and aggravation, at least in not repeating my questions and searching for the answers. I certainly hope the experts will edit and update this WikiPost as necessary. I’m also exercising Writer's Prerogative to officially coin the term “pointsetize”, like monetize “convert into or express in the form of currency”, to earn points from payments which otherwise would not earn points.)
Bilt Rewards Mastercard (Bilt MC) was first launched in mid-2021, in good part as a no fee way to charge and pointsetize rent payments. (Perhaps the only no fee way to pointsetize rent payments.) There are multiple reports of earning Bilt points for paying condominium monthly maintenance/common charges, sometimes even when the word “condo” or “condominium” is in the transaction description.
Bilt MC is a personal credit card, WF reports credit card information to the various credit bureaus and Bilt MC will count toward Chase 5/24.
This post and this post (both from 9/7/23) describe shutdown reports perhaps related to “micro transactions”, fluctuating rent payment amounts or multiple rent payments. This 10/11/23 post includes several references to Reddit user quotes about shutdowns and several Reddit Bilt quotes in response.
Links
Bilt MC is a metal card weighing ~16 grams (comparisons: AmEx biz plat 18.5 gm, AmEx Gold 15 gm, Chase Sapphire Reserve 13 gm, traditional plastic card 5 gm).
Bilt Mastercard is issued and managed by Wells Fargo. Bilt Rewards is a separate website and app (which contains some credit card information but not as much as WF website).
Most reports are of instant approvals, Wells Fargo reconsideration phone number and experiences are not well documented. Reported initial Credit Limits vary $4,000 - $30,000 with higher limits more commonly reported. This post (9/1/23) describes one instance of a “Something went wrong” message upon application and the steps toward approval several days later.
In March/April 2025 Bilt initiated a new and different process for paying rent and HOA fees which requires “preauthorization” and/or "auto-pre-authorization" within 5 days of payment.
Bilt MC is shipped via trackable no-signature-required First Class mail in a small (4.5” x 6.5”) white box with unique packaging inside as pictured at the bottom of this post. As of Feb 2024 no reports of expedited shipping.
Reports on this thread starting in late November 2023 indicate this "quasi-SUB" may be offered randomly and/or only to some people, selection criteria unknown. This post may be the only report of being offered the quasi-SUB prior to Bilt Mastercard application, based on existing Bilt Rewards account. Bilt's “quasi-SUB" is offered via an email and a text message notification the same day as card receipt informing of 5x/5 days/max 50K (email quoted verbatim in this post). (Quasi* due to very short duration in contrast to many traditional SUBs of 3 month duration.) Please note this quasi-SUB maxs out at $12,500 (not $10,000) and tax payments will count. No reports yet of returns and their effect on quasi-SUB. (* “quasi-“ a combining form meaning “resembling,” “having some, but not all of the features of,” used in the formation of compound words: quasi-definition; quasi-monopoly; quasi-official; quasi-scientific.)
Newly earned Bilt points will display as “pending” until 5 transactions per statement cycle. After 5 transactions, points will post and become available shortly after a transaction, before statement date. The Bilt Rewards website has a “transaction counter” which disappears upon reaching 5.
Bilt points for linking partner programs (100 points each) and for adding a credit card to Bilt Wallet (100 points each for first 3) post immediately. Original author received 500 point bonus for first rent payment.
Bilt Rewards points are transferable at 1:1 usually within a few minutes to multiple different airline and hotel programs.
There’s discussion of the long term viability of Bilt with some of those posts linked at the bottom of this post after “BREAK”.
Bilt Status Tiers: Blue - anyone enrolled in Bilt Rewards with under 25,000 points, Silver - 25,000 points earned, Gold - 50,000 points earned, Platinum - 100,000 points earned. “Tier status earned at any point in a year remains active through the end of the following year.” “Earn Interest on Points” (Silver, Gold, Platinum Tiers) is minimal, discussed on this post and this post.
Bilt Points Quest Trivia was discontinued as of July 2024.
Bilt Rent Free may also have been discontinued in 2024 or 2025.
List of Bilt’s Rent Day promotions going back to October 2022 at the bottom of the page here: DEALSPOINTS.
June 2024: Bottom of this post describes one person’s experience paying a significant assessment (and earning points) with Bilt MC, at this time (only 3 weeks later) no report of clawback or shutdown (based on using Bilt to pay rent more than once a month and/or for something other than rent/condo fees).
June 2024: Bottom of this post contains Bilt quotes regarding Bilt BiltProtect.
June 2024: Important post (and link) stating that WF is losing money every month on Bilt.
Bilt Mastercard
#1007


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Anyone know if signing up for the Hilton bonus prevents you in participating in future Hilton fast tracks? Usually there's a set limit of how many fast tracks can be completed in a set period, so don't want to get the quick Gold and then prevent myself from doing the corporate Diamond one next year if I need a series of Hilton stays.
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Anyone know if signing up for the Hilton bonus prevents you in participating in future Hilton fast tracks? Usually there's a set limit of how many fast tracks can be completed in a set period, so don't want to get the quick Gold and then prevent myself from doing the corporate Diamond one next year if I need a series of Hilton stays.
-J.
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Checked the terms and couldn't find an answer - sent Bilt a message and will give an update if I hear back tomorrow
#1010


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I'm curious how this Hilton promo effects current status? I have Diamond (qualified based on nights last year) and its set to expire March 2025. If I do the Bilt promo, does it knock me back to Gold until the end of 2024? Does it reduce the amount of nights needed to re-qualify for Diamond or does already being Diamond disqualify you from the fast track? (IIRC the T+C if the promo say you are fast tracked 14 nights to qualify for diamond before 12/31/24).
I missed out on the Hyatt promo last year so I'm curious how this works for current status holders.
I missed out on the Hyatt promo last year so I'm curious how this works for current status holders.
#1011




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At Soulcycle today (Rent day promo) they said Bilt changed their process in the past month.
You now pay upfront for the shoe rental ($4) and water ($5.50) and Bilt is supposed to reimburse you credits.
Assuming it works, this is good for me since it's one less charge needed per month.
You now pay upfront for the shoe rental ($4) and water ($5.50) and Bilt is supposed to reimburse you credits.
Assuming it works, this is good for me since it's one less charge needed per month.
Here's the October T&C https://www.biltrewards.com/terms/rent-day-oct24
(2) Hilton Honors® Status Match You must be a Hilton Honors member and a recipient of this offer to participate. From 12:00am ET through 11:59pm PT on October 1, 2024 (“Offer Period”), Bilt Members can request Hilton Honors Gold status by activating this offer in the Bilt app or website and will receive a trial update to Hilton Honors Gold (“Hilton Honors Gold Trial”). The trial will provide the member with the benefits of Hilton Honors Gold status, as set forth in the Hilton Honors Terms and Conditions. It may take up to ten (10) business days after the end of the Offer Period for your Hilton Honors account to receive Hilton Honors Gold status. Your Hilton Honors Gold Trial will last until December 31, 2024 (“Trial Period”). In order to activate this offer, you must have linked your Hilton Honors account to your Bilt Rewards account and have both accounts in good standing.
Upon registration, Bilt Member will receive Hilton Honors Gold status for the remainder of the Trial Period through December 31, 2024. To earn Hilton Honors Gold status, Member must complete 8 qualifying nights as defined in the Hilton Honors Terms & Conditions (“Qualifying Nights”) by December 31, 2024. To earn Hilton Honors Diamond status, Bilt Members who are Bilt Blue, Bilt Silver or Bilt Gold at the time of registration must complete 14 qualifying nights by December 31, 2024; Bilt Members who are Bilt Platinum at the time of registration must complete 10 qualifying nights by December 31, 2024. New status will be applied within 10 business days of checkout of the stay during which offer requirements are completed.
Offer available only to Bilt Members. Bookings should be made through designated online booking tool or approved travel professional. Offer only redeemable for limited time.
Once a Member obtains Hilton Honors Elite status, the Member may keep such status through March 31, 2026. Full details of Member status will be sent to the Member upon attaining the tier level. The offer may be terminated earlier by Hilton without notice. Bonus Points are not eligible for the elite tier qualification. In-Room Wi-Fi, Fitness Center/Health Club Access and Bottled Water benefits may not be complimentary at properties with a resort charge. Elite status benefits such as space-available upgrades and complimentary breakfast are subject to availability and vary by brand. All Hilton Honors Terms and Conditions apply. Hilton Honors Membership, including the earning and redemption of Points, is subject to Hilton Honors Terms and Conditions. For more information, please visit hiltonhonors.com/memberbenefits. This offer is subject to the Hilton Honors Terms & Conditions.
Upon registration, Bilt Member will receive Hilton Honors Gold status for the remainder of the Trial Period through December 31, 2024. To earn Hilton Honors Gold status, Member must complete 8 qualifying nights as defined in the Hilton Honors Terms & Conditions (“Qualifying Nights”) by December 31, 2024. To earn Hilton Honors Diamond status, Bilt Members who are Bilt Blue, Bilt Silver or Bilt Gold at the time of registration must complete 14 qualifying nights by December 31, 2024; Bilt Members who are Bilt Platinum at the time of registration must complete 10 qualifying nights by December 31, 2024. New status will be applied within 10 business days of checkout of the stay during which offer requirements are completed.
Offer available only to Bilt Members. Bookings should be made through designated online booking tool or approved travel professional. Offer only redeemable for limited time.
Once a Member obtains Hilton Honors Elite status, the Member may keep such status through March 31, 2026. Full details of Member status will be sent to the Member upon attaining the tier level. The offer may be terminated earlier by Hilton without notice. Bonus Points are not eligible for the elite tier qualification. In-Room Wi-Fi, Fitness Center/Health Club Access and Bottled Water benefits may not be complimentary at properties with a resort charge. Elite status benefits such as space-available upgrades and complimentary breakfast are subject to availability and vary by brand. All Hilton Honors Terms and Conditions apply. Hilton Honors Membership, including the earning and redemption of Points, is subject to Hilton Honors Terms and Conditions. For more information, please visit hiltonhonors.com/memberbenefits. This offer is subject to the Hilton Honors Terms & Conditions.
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I'm curious how this Hilton promo effects current status? I have Diamond (qualified based on nights last year) and its set to expire March 2025. If I do the Bilt promo, does it knock me back to Gold until the end of 2024? Does it reduce the amount of nights needed to re-qualify for Diamond or does already being Diamond disqualify you from the fast track? (IIRC the T+C if the promo say you are fast tracked 14 nights to qualify for diamond before 12/31/24).
I missed out on the Hyatt promo last year so I'm curious how this works for current status holders.
I missed out on the Hyatt promo last year so I'm curious how this works for current status holders.
This temp gold doesnt grant any nights (I think?) so it doesnt affect requalification.
#1013




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doing this Gold promo and 14 nights (10 if Bilt Platinum) gets you to Diamond until 2026.
Tbh, you probably could open a new HH account if you don’t care about EQN and then transfer the points after the stays… hmm
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Richard Kerr was on a podcast recently:
https://milenomics.com/2024/09/trave...-richard-kerr/
I'm pretty sure he said there were three new travel company currencies coming on board before the end of the year . . .
Overall, though, not super interesting and a lot of boasting about ways he's maximized his personal travel.
https://milenomics.com/2024/09/trave...-richard-kerr/
I'm pretty sure he said there were three new travel company currencies coming on board before the end of the year . . .
Overall, though, not super interesting and a lot of boasting about ways he's maximized his personal travel.
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Right, but the terms of service for the promo say that (in addition to giving a trial period for HH Gold) it reduces the number of nights needed to qualify for diamond to 14 down from 60. So for someone who already has Diamond (or Gold), but has not re-qualified yet for next year it could greatly speed that process.
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(Not a paid shill, just a happy Aspire credit card camper .) FWIW, the Hilton Aspire credit card includes Diamond status and although it has a high AF, it basically puts $50 (more than the AF) in your pocket every year by way of low hanging fruit* statement credits. Also has an annual FNA, CLEAR credit and relatively high earnings on Hilton spend. For many of us, even with 5/24 concerns and infrequent Hilton stays, it’s a no brainer.
Hilton Aspire Card, Moneymaker?
Hilton Aspire $200 x 2 RESORT Credit experiences.
Hilton Aspire $50 x 4 Flight Credit experiences
(* “low-hanging fruit (plural low-hanging fruits) (idiomatic) Easily obtained gains.” “Where does low-hanging fruit come from? The first records of the literal sense of low-hanging fruit come from 1859 in Adam Bede, a novel by George Eliot. The first records of the figurative sense of low-hanging fruit come from 1909, although it would begin to become especially popular during the 1980s. The figurative usage alludes to the fact that picking fruit from low branches is almost always much easier and faster than picking fruit from branches higher up. The term low-hanging fruit is particularly common in the business world. It is often used to refer to such things as groups of customers that are easy to persuade or investors that are already interested in a business. A person or company that is going after the low-hanging fruit is focusing on easy tasks or goals first before worrying about difficult problems or goals that will take a lot of effort.”)
Hilton Aspire Card, Moneymaker?
Hilton Aspire $200 x 2 RESORT Credit experiences.
Hilton Aspire $50 x 4 Flight Credit experiences
(* “low-hanging fruit (plural low-hanging fruits) (idiomatic) Easily obtained gains.” “Where does low-hanging fruit come from? The first records of the literal sense of low-hanging fruit come from 1859 in Adam Bede, a novel by George Eliot. The first records of the figurative sense of low-hanging fruit come from 1909, although it would begin to become especially popular during the 1980s. The figurative usage alludes to the fact that picking fruit from low branches is almost always much easier and faster than picking fruit from branches higher up. The term low-hanging fruit is particularly common in the business world. It is often used to refer to such things as groups of customers that are easy to persuade or investors that are already interested in a business. A person or company that is going after the low-hanging fruit is focusing on easy tasks or goals first before worrying about difficult problems or goals that will take a lot of effort.”)
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Ok, I didn't get charged for shoes and water today at Soulcycle so maybe it was just a weird fluke.
The podcast was decently interesting, a couple of notes
The podcast was decently interesting, a couple of notes
- He doesn't want Bilt to have a SUB because it's a race to the bottom, citing other cards with high SUB like Marriott
- Airlines/hotels are interested in Bilt because they can target affluent 30 year olds instead of their main (elite) clients who are 50-60
- He thinks that the reason NYC hotel rates are so high is that they closed off several floors to reduce inventory. He stays consistently at one for many nights and always stays on the same two floors
- He gives this example: "If you pay your rent with the Alaska co-branded card, you get 3x Alaska miles per dollar of rent. If you're paying $2000-$2500 rent, you now get a free flight every single month for paying your rent. Yeah, you have to pay the 3% fee. But that 3% fee is going to be a lot cheaper than whatever flight you were going to try and book for the most part. Right. You're talking $75-90 every single month for a flight. That's a great message. And that is something the vast majority of our members who are not like the three of us, points and miles experts, that is a message they can understand."
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I listened to the podcast as well - it's worth a listen if you have the time - but I still don't think that the program is sustainable. More important than the travel partners, my understanding was that the Wells Fargo backing was more in anticipation of renters eventually getting mortgages. From earlier posts in this thread and articles, that never materialized.
The podcast also hinted that the reason why we're able to have these transfer opportunities is that a lot of Bilt members are using their points to cover a portion of their rent. If the rewards program ends up going more in that direction as a result of that at the expense of transfers to travel partners with a message like, "We're focusing on where our Bilt members are using their points!" it would diminish the value proposition for many of us here. There was no indication of this, but I'm wondering what percentage of heavy hitters on the Rent Day promo are on this thread.
The podcast also hinted that the reason why we're able to have these transfer opportunities is that a lot of Bilt members are using their points to cover a portion of their rent. If the rewards program ends up going more in that direction as a result of that at the expense of transfers to travel partners with a message like, "We're focusing on where our Bilt members are using their points!" it would diminish the value proposition for many of us here. There was no indication of this, but I'm wondering what percentage of heavy hitters on the Rent Day promo are on this thread.
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Without a SUB and without rent, I guess I am just not in their target market. I am also in that age group he talked about that will in a few years “age out” of the loyalty programs. Well, I hope I have another 20 years of travel in me, fueled by Chase, Amex and Citi
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I was surprised that there was no more push back on that. Or even a follow-up question about the pseudo SUB that is (was?) offered to some people.
Without a SUB and without rent, I guess I am just not in their target market. I am also in that age group he talked about that will in a few years “age out” of the loyalty programs. Well, I hope I have another 20 years of travel in me, fueled by Chase, Amex and Citi
Without a SUB and without rent, I guess I am just not in their target market. I am also in that age group he talked about that will in a few years “age out” of the loyalty programs. Well, I hope I have another 20 years of travel in me, fueled by Chase, Amex and Citi

-J.



