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Anglo Large Clawed Otter May 1, 2009 1:40 pm


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 11678576)
so you aren't having the same delays the real companies have, producing only 1-2 aircraft per year? :D

No. They fear the wrath of my 5-year plan.

Plus1 May 1, 2009 1:40 pm


Originally Posted by AMF in NJ (Post 11672572)
Don't feel too bad, Plus1 didn't make his upgrade either. :eek::eek:

I made HGK-EWR, I'm getting hosed on EWR-IAH. :( Been #1 for days, just slid to #4 with no seats left.

fozz May 1, 2009 1:41 pm


Originally Posted by xyzzy (Post 11678140)
I ate breakfast at Hash House A Go Go in La$ Vega$ the other day. They have an item on their breakfast menu that you may be interested in. It is listed like this:

I didn't even realize there's a Hash House in Vegas. The original one is in SD and is AMAZING. I highly recommend it. But be prepared for a line, it's always busy.


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 11678197)
It's always have been two days. UPS would tease me by keeping it in the Edison distribution center one day. I got my new PowerPoint remote that replaces the one that "walked" at the Brooklyn Marriott

Who did you piss off at UPS? I've always gotten my stuff the next day when shipping it to NJ from B&H. Maybe you're just on the fringe of the area where UPS thinks it's ok to hold it hostage for a day.

Steph3n May 1, 2009 1:42 pm


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 11678568)
I'm leaning in my case it's every 6-9 months.

then check your hardware.


I'm not sure what version of Windows you're using, but even just keeping up on Windows updates kills a machine over time.
I have well over 600 machines under my management in the last 10 years, and I have had exactly 4 that died on a windows update, I have had a linux upate or two go worse, and even a freebsd. I have no more windows 2000, but it too was solid, I have many 2003, XP, numerous Vista, 2008 CLI, 2008 full, and a new windows 7.

To defend MS blatantly is just wrong. I'm not a mac fan-boy by any means. I do like the fact that they put a nice UI on a Unix box, that was the one thing lacking. And, no, the linuxes of the world don't count.
No defending MS is not wrong, just like acting like linux doesn't exist is wrong...linux does exist and it is not a terrible kernel or base, it may not be BSD but it is just fine as a base. Linux has driven a lot of development in other area and I'd venture to say INCLUDING OS X, by showing an alternative can gain a foothold.

I do not blindly support every MS move, linux move, bsd move, etc, and I do not blindly say every apple move is wrong (I said one of their best moves was stopping mac clones to have quality hardware just a bit ago)

Plus1 May 1, 2009 1:42 pm

It's Hot in here!
 
It's about 90 degrees in the P-Club in EWR. Yikes.

Steph3n May 1, 2009 1:46 pm


Originally Posted by Plus1 (Post 11678620)
It's about 90 degrees in the P-Club in EWR. Yikes.

It was like that the last few times for me.....I think the agents there like it TOASTY, but for me more like a sauna!

AMF in NJ May 1, 2009 1:47 pm


Originally Posted by Plus1 (Post 11678602)
I made HGK-EWR, I'm getting hosed on EWR-IAH. :( Been #1 for days, just slid to #4 with no seats left.

To be fair when I posted that you didn't. :p You needed someone to not show up (or something) to make it.^

fozz May 1, 2009 1:48 pm


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 11678616)
I have well over 600 machines under my management in the last 10 years, and I have had exactly 4 that died on a windows update, I have had a linux upate or two go worse, and even a freebsd. I have no more windows 2000, but it too was solid, I have many 2003, XP, numerous Vista, 2008 CLI, 2008 full, and a new windows 7.

I haven't had a machine die during the update. The updates tend to bloated and grow over time.

I've managed a slew of machines over the last 20 years and by far the Windows and Linux ones have always been a problem.


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 11678616)
No defending MS is not wrong, just like acting like linux doesn't exist is wrong...linux does exist and it is not a terrible kernel or base, it may not be BSD but it is just fine as a base. Linux has driven a lot of development in other area and I'd venture to say INCLUDING OS X, by showing an alternative can gain a foothold.

I do not blindly support every MS move, linux move, bsd move, etc, and I do not blindly say every apple move is wrong (I said one of their best moves was stopping mac clones to have quality hardware just a bit ago)

The issue that I have is that you go to lengths to defend MS but rarely admit it's faults. Furthermore, you are a minority in the general population as to how reliable Windows is. Quite frankly, you are the first person I have run into which says Windows is so great. Even most of the Windows admins I know that it has issues.

As for Linux, it was great to help the cause of Unix. My biggest beef is the lack of consistency from version to version. The fact that you have to make sure that the libc on your system was built when the full moon was hovering over Timbuktu is insane. The dependency management in Linux is horrid.

Linux is a great alternative to Windows for someone who doesn't wants to spend money on an OS. But, in the end, you get what you pay for.

fozz May 1, 2009 1:49 pm

Attempt #2 on the JFK-ONT run today. The IFL is quiet and apparently there are ATC delays in SFO. This should be fun!

Steph3n May 1, 2009 1:52 pm


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 11678660)

The issue that I have is that you go to lengths to defend MS but rarely admit it's faults. Furthermore, you are a minority in the general population as to how reliable Windows is. Quite frankly, you are the first person I have run into which says Windows is so great. Even most of the Windows admins I know that it has issues.

I go to lengths to put down false statements about politics, or technology, or religion. I understand sarcasm but windows is not the ultimate evil everyone makes it out to be, the brunt of jokes.

I am a very experienced windows admin, I have met few that know anything about windows even those that are MCSE certified, they hand those out like candy canes at christmastime. That is a major problem with MS, and increasingly with RedHat, certifications are worthless.

I have seen so many screwed up AD installs, insecure to the max, it is no wonder Windows has a bad name with the inept people that call themselves admins. I've seen the same on linux now, and all the 'control panels' and 'wizards' for linux it is getting worse there by the day. OS X and FreeBSD will see their day in the inept admin spotlight in the coming years, without a doubt. There will however still be groups of people that really know what they are doing and be able to run it properly.

I know quite a few people employed as 'unix admins' and I have more unix experience than them, from NCR systems running SysV, to minix on an old 386 of mine, to debian before it was hot with ubuntu, and freebsd varieties, picobsd spinoff on small machines, netbsd running some incredible transparent firewall systems, and more.

So it all boils down to: personal experience can vary for all, but not all admins are worth their salt, pepper hash or fortune cookie.

ConciergeMike May 1, 2009 2:03 pm

Screw 90 degrees in the PClub. The tech arguing is reaching a boil.

Steph3n May 1, 2009 2:05 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11678756)
Screw 90 degrees in the PClub. The tech arguing is reaching a boil.

:rolleyes: I know. but isn't this the penalty box? :D

AMF in NJ May 1, 2009 2:09 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11678756)
Screw 90 degrees in the PClub. The tech arguing is reaching a boil.

Don't worry, after 5:00 EDT you have the politics talk. :rolleyes:

:D:o;):rolleyes:

Steph3n May 1, 2009 2:10 pm


Originally Posted by AMF in NJ (Post 11678791)
Don't worry, after 5:00 EDT you have the politics talk. :rolleyes:

:D:o;):rolleyes:

:rolleyes: since I am driving everyone crazy the last 24 hours, sending self to penalty box.

ssullivan May 1, 2009 2:14 pm


Originally Posted by Plus1 (Post 11678620)
It's about 90 degrees in the P-Club in EWR. Yikes.

It's always hot in the PCs. I think CO is trying to balance the budget by cutting back on air conditioning.


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