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zippypinhead Mar 3, 2009 2:28 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11354458)
I forgot something to add to this: because of our lovely population density, I can probably direct a person to nearly anywhere in this armpit of a state merely by using the following:
  • Traffic lights
  • Exit numbers
  • Road numbers
  • Location of malls or fast food joints

Note the lack of anything that could be considered useful information, such as distances or street names as opposed to numbers.

I've been to places so rural that the directions are something like, "Take the third paved road on your right... Go a ways then turn left where Ed's barn used to be...":rolleyes:

ConciergeMike Mar 3, 2009 2:30 pm


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 11354527)
NJ is adding roundabouts these days. The traditional NJ circle has no rules and the traffic volume is too high on the roads for them to work properly. I've spent the past hour reading up on them.

Every circle out this way is dead except for Routes 70/72 and the one in front of ACY. There used to be one on the Black Horse Pike about 15 minutes before you got into AC, and that is gone too.


Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 11354533)
I thought that's what you were saying. And I would like to think I was slightly less moronic than the average 15 year old high school baseball player in a Camaro probably would be ...

:o

I reserve the right to amend my outlook assuming that I stop living in NJ. I think living here and working in AC has soured my attitude toward humanity somewhat.

ConciergeMike Mar 3, 2009 2:32 pm


Originally Posted by zippypinhead (Post 11354547)
I've been to places so rural that the directions are something like, "Take the third paved road on your right... Go a ways then turn left where Ed's barn used to be...":rolleyes:

I had to go to Williamsport, PA once....combined Little League ballfield and minimum-security prison visit. At a liquor store there, someone in my party asked for directions and got the reply of "Down the road a piece." That happened almost 13 years ago. To this day, "Down the road a piece" is a punchline among my family members.

Oh, BTW: there HAD to have been a sign saying "Ed's barn wuz here", right?

Jaimito Cartero Mar 3, 2009 2:32 pm


Originally Posted by zippypinhead (Post 11354547)
I've been to places so rural that the directions are something like, "Take the third paved road on your right... Go a ways then turn left where Ed's barn used to be...":rolleyes:

That's nothing. In Costa Rica, they often give directions based on a factory that was there 40 years ago, a green garbage can in the middle of the block, or a yellow house, that is no longer yellow. Needless to say, Costa Rica mailmen have a light amount of mail to deliver. :)

Olton Hall Mar 3, 2009 2:32 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11354560)
Every circle out this way is dead except for Routes 70/72 and the one in front of ACY. There used to be one on the Black Horse Pike about 15 minutes before you got into AC, and that is gone too.

They want to add a bunch on 9 down your way. :eek:

ConciergeMike Mar 3, 2009 2:35 pm


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 11354575)
They want to add a bunch on 9 down your way. :eek:

Where the hell in Ocean County can Route 9 support the construction of a circle? Nearly every business is right up against the curb from Little Egg up into Toms River...and let's not get into how many cemetaries are bordered by 9.

Olton Hall Mar 3, 2009 2:39 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11354588)
Where the hell in Ocean County can Route 9 support the construction of a circle? Nearly every business is right up against the curb from Little Egg up into Toms River...and let's not get into how many cemetaries are bordered by 9.

Those are my thoughts too. Keep in mind we are talking roundabouts which are much smaller than circles. But still they take up room

fozz Mar 3, 2009 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11354588)
Where the hell in Ocean County can Route 9 support the construction of a circle? Nearly every business is right up against the curb from Little Egg up into Toms River...and let's not get into how many cemetaries are bordered by 9.

Perhaps they are taking a lesson from the lovely city of Chicago and will move the cemeteries.... Wouldn't surprise me one bit, after all NJ's corruption is only second to Chicago.

ConciergeMike Mar 3, 2009 2:46 pm


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 11354625)
Perhaps they are taking a lesson from the lovely city of Chicago and will move the cemeteries.... Wouldn't surprise me one bit, after all NJ's corruption is only second to Chicago.

I resent that remark. Our dead people vote too! :D

Xyzzy Mar 3, 2009 3:07 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11354416)
At one time when I was looking to move to PHX the city's website had a page dedicated to the teaching of negotiating a traffic circle. PHX was just getting around to installing them, when I know NJ and I think several other states are actively seeking ways to delete them.

I, for one, like circles. Until a certain point they move traffic much more efficiently than traffic lights. The problem is that drivers in the US are rather uneducated when it comes to the rules of the road and the traffic here is quite a bit denser than in places like the UK.

zippypinhead Mar 3, 2009 3:14 pm


Originally Posted by xyzzy (Post 11354739)
I, for one, like circles. Until a certain point they move traffic much more efficiently than traffic lights. The problem is that drivers in the US are rather uneducated when it comes to the rules of the road and the traffic here is quite a bit denser than in places like the UK.

I love the wider circles. Treat 'em like my own personal skid pad. Time it just right to enter just behind someone, use your momentum to pass 'em up and zip out the other side ahead. :D Extra points if they flip you off.^

icurhere2 Mar 3, 2009 3:14 pm


Originally Posted by xyzzy (Post 11354739)
The problem is that drivers in the US are rather uneducated when it comes to the rules of the road plus the traffic and drivers here are each quite a bit denser than in places like the UK.

I made corrections to your statement above.

MBM3 Mar 3, 2009 3:23 pm

Have we all not experienced the wonderful Michigan lefts? That is right, go past the street, cut through the turnabout in the median, continue back in the direction you just came from, and then take a right.

Um, how about a left turn signal folks? While you are at it, try repairing the freeways BEFORE you can see China through the potholes?

MBM3 Mar 3, 2009 3:27 pm


Originally Posted by zippypinhead (Post 11354780)
I love the wider circles. Treat 'em like my own personal skid pad. Time it just right to enter just behind someone, use your momentum to pass 'em up and zip out the other side ahead. :D Extra points if they flip you off.^

I got busted in college on the far east side of Cleveland using a wide traffic circle as a skidpad for my VW Golf. Luckily, I was sober and the cop's daughter went to the same school (he saw my ID in my wallet).

He was chuckling at my buddy handing on to the upper handle for dear life. He let me go with a warning not to do it again and if I did, make sure it was dry. ^^

icurhere2 Mar 3, 2009 3:30 pm


Originally Posted by MBM3 (Post 11354841)
I got busted in college on the far east side of Cleveland using a wide traffic circle as a skidpad for my VW Golf.

Flying into MEM Sunday morning (after the previous night's snow/ice), it appeared from the air that every parking lot that wasn't access-controlled had been used for this purpose ...


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