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Xyzzy Jan 9, 2009 9:49 pm


Originally Posted by monitor (Post 11046995)
(check that, five)

I don't think we have to guess who the other tight-pitch carrier is. That all sounds about right to me. It will be interesting to see how well the new, bigger, DL does financially with all of its odd new routes. It seems they are throwing out a lot of new ones to see what sticks.

belynch Jan 9, 2009 9:50 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11047005)
I've gone from being a hopeful doomsayer to realizing that apathy is keeping them alive.

Mark my words. They will be toast this year. Toast.

1.. 2... 3... Toast.

(anyone get the reference?)

ConciergeMike Jan 9, 2009 9:50 pm


Originally Posted by belynch (Post 11047000)
I first noticed this on 9/11 a few years back when I was looking at the towers of light. :(

I remember walking past my fenceline out of the bomb build area on 9/12/01 and thinking how eerie it was that I knew there were no airliners in the sky.

ConciergeMike Jan 9, 2009 9:51 pm


Originally Posted by belynch (Post 11047012)
Mark my words. They will be toast this year. Toast.

1.. 2... 3... Toast.

(anyone get the reference?)

Transsexual Transylvania?

Olton Hall Jan 9, 2009 9:54 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11046952)
Corrected I stand and :eek: indeed to a heavy using 29. I just checked the runway lengths again and I can't imagine the pucker factor for crew and pax alike when there's only 6800 feet to work with. Seems kinda SXM-ish.

The passengers don't really know about it. One time landing on 11 in an ERJ we touched down opposite the
Kalitta 747. Judging by the reaction of the other passengers it was only me and the flight deck crew that went "oh #$@*" and I was worried we were going to end up on the Turnpike. We came to a quick stop past the piano keys. First time I was on a ERJ that used the thurst reversers and those breaks stunk up the cabin real bad afterwards.

belynch Jan 9, 2009 9:54 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11047014)
how eerie it was

I was reading the latest issue of Esquire and in one of the interviews it mentioned how much apathy Ameica has. How, in, more or less 7 years we've dismissed 9-11.

At first I PFFGH'ed and then I got a little angry.

I really don't want to start a political discussion in here (honestly) and I certainly don't want to start trading 9-11 stories, but I'm just curious for the folks that don't live in the NYC area - has Sept. 11th become just another day?

ConciergeMike Jan 9, 2009 9:55 pm


Originally Posted by belynch (Post 11047012)
Mark my words. They will be toast this year. Toast.

You, me, and many others said that last year. The biggest event that controls their destiny, IMO, is if WN starts service to CLT. They can't yet because some gate rights have to expire...once the airport authority gets those gates back from US and can consequently go shopping for tenants is when the house of cards will fall.

Olton Hall Jan 9, 2009 9:55 pm


Originally Posted by belynch (Post 11046956)
My girlfriend hates taking the Turnpike. Not because of the traffic or the potholes. But she's afraid we're going to get into an accident driving past EWR as my eyes are anywhere but on the road.

... hey, I need to know how I'm doing when I race the SQ345.

I think that stretch of the TPK has the most accidents. Likely from everyone looking at the plane.s

belynch Jan 9, 2009 9:55 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11047017)
Transsexual Transylvania?

(the first) Mission Impossible when Tom Cruise is dangling from the pulley system checking how loud he can be.

Toast. 1. 2. 3. Toast. Toast. TOAST.

Xyzzy Jan 9, 2009 9:57 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11047034)
You, me, and many others said that last year. The biggest event that controls their destiny, IMO, is if WN starts service to CLT. They can't yet because some gate rights have to expire...once the airport authority gets those gates back from US and can consequently go shopping for tenants is when the house of cards will fall.

WN should play Airline Mogul and build its own terminal :D :D :D

Olton Hall Jan 9, 2009 9:58 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11046985)
My favorite look at EWR is when the approach is from the south, maybe about a half hour before dusk...the string of nav lights on the Turnpike visual always makes me go :D

It looks cool but then it means I have to deal with This on occasion and I really hate it when it happens during FedEx rush hour.

Xyzzy Jan 9, 2009 9:59 pm


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 11047048)
It looks cool but then it means I have to deal with This on occasion and I really hate it when it happens during FedEx rush hour.

I like views like that through the car sunroof!

ConciergeMike Jan 9, 2009 10:00 pm


Originally Posted by xyzzy (Post 11047046)
WN should play Airline Mogul and build its own terminal :D :D :D

LOL. That would indeed be hilarious. It's insane how, if you think about it, three leasing agreements could change the landscape of the US aviation business.

1. Aforementioned at CLT.
2. CO deciding it doesn't want F9 to use its space anymore.
3. CO deciding it wants all that space at LGA back.

Olton Hall Jan 9, 2009 10:05 pm


Originally Posted by xyzzy (Post 11047050)
I like views like that through the car sunroof!

I do too but I took that standing on my front lawn.

monitor Jan 9, 2009 10:06 pm


Originally Posted by belynch (Post 11047033)
...I'm just curious for the folks that don't live in the NYC area - has Sept. 11th become just another day?

Depends on where and who. Try what I call the "pucker up" northeasterners with lots of advanced degrees who now consider it to have been an aberration that we can prevent from reoccurring by being nice to the potential jihadis and entering into constructive dialogue with them. :rolleyes:

Contrast that to the typical blue-collar Midwesterner who has not thought about it for a while but when reminded, again gets mad as hell that any SoBs would pull that sort of stuff on and in the US. In September of '01 I had a 34 year old maintenance man with a compressed lumbar disk who wanted to go down and sign up for the army so he could go and kick some a$$ of the b*stards who dared to do that to the US.


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