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Old Apr 22, 2022 | 11:30 pm
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Originally Posted by tauphi
The door to HK is still wide-open. As HK just announced its own reopening to non-residents starting 1 May, that provides another avenue for those who want to enter China. Obviously an extra 7 days of quarantine in HK as well as flight ban uncertainties need to be factored in.
Assuming "China" means Mainland China and not Hong Kong, Taiwan, or Macau, I have no idea how this helps one enter China.
(Unless one can already enter China and wants to save on the flight cost in return for additional quarantine time+money expense in HK).
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Old Apr 23, 2022 | 1:49 am
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Originally Posted by gudugan
Assuming "China" means Mainland China and not Hong Kong, Taiwan, or Macau, I have no idea how this helps one enter China.
(Unless one can already enter China and wants to save on the flight cost in return for additional quarantine time+money expense in HK).
If the HK quarantine is only 7 days I could see this being a viable option for someone who wants to avoid paying $9000 for an economy class ticket and $600 of pre flight testing plus a weeks worth of hotels at the departure city.

If they keep the current one PCR test needed rule to enter the mainland from HK, then this is a good option for those looking to save money.
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Old Apr 23, 2022 | 2:03 am
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If that's the actual process, forget HK and hope Taiwan opens with no quarantine in July.
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/34173381-post314.html
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Old Apr 23, 2022 | 6:31 am
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Originally Posted by travelinmanS
If the HK quarantine is only 7 days I could see this being a viable option for someone who wants to avoid paying $9000 for an economy class ticket and $600 of pre flight testing plus a weeks worth of hotels at the departure city.

If they keep the current one PCR test needed rule to enter the mainland from HK, then this is a good option for those looking to save money.
Wait until PRC shuts down this and forbids foreign travelers from entering mainland from HK.
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Old Apr 23, 2022 | 9:51 am
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Originally Posted by kb1992
Wait until PRC shuts down this and forbids foreign travelers from entering mainland from HK.
Thats obviously the flaw in the plan. But at the rate they are going will there be that many foreigners wanting to go to China in a few months time anyway?

It seems they limit foreigners by the visa rules mostly and limit Chinese nationals by the flight rules. Most flights coming to China are filled with mainly returning Chinese citizens I would gather at the moment. So maybe they wont bother with the foreigner ban from HK, who knows anything these days.
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Old Apr 23, 2022 | 12:04 pm
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"The message is quite clear. China wants to shut itself off from the world. I hate this since I’ve based my career and life here for the last 20+ years, but it’s a reality I’m beginning to accept.”


Don’t know if you’ve seen this but an economist I follow...the short version is economic growth in China has shifted from exponential to messaging about “common prosperity”. Reading common prosperity as a significant downgrade, harsh lockdowns are a way to abruptly downshift societal expectations

https://alhambrapartners.com/2022/04...began-in-2017/
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Old Apr 23, 2022 | 8:51 pm
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Originally Posted by percysmith
As HK relaxes, China will treat HK as if AU or US (I dont think well be allowed to get that far. Im happy to be proven wrong).
Taiwan has had multiple serious outbreaks and China has never done anything to stop/circuit-break flights from there. All you need is a negative pre-departure PCR test.

It's hard to see how HK can be treated worse than Taiwan.
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Old Apr 23, 2022 | 8:54 pm
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Originally Posted by tauphi
Taiwan has had multiple serious outbreaks and China has never done anything to stop/circuit-break flights from there. All you need is a negative pre-departure PCR test.
Hong Kong is opening up to non-residents before Taiwan though.
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Old Apr 24, 2022 | 9:39 am
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I'm hearing that case counts in Beijing are increasing. Do people think that there is a risk of an imminent lock down?
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Old Apr 24, 2022 | 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by angetenar
I'm hearing that case counts in Beijing are increasing. Do people think that there is a risk of an imminent lock down?
Unless they start to grasp reality, absolutely.

Not sure why they're refusing to understand how Omicron works, but this for sure will turn worse and worse and worse if they don't change their approach to it.
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Old Apr 24, 2022 | 6:50 pm
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Originally Posted by YuropFlyer
Unless they start to grasp reality, absolutely.

Not sure why they're refusing to understand how Omicron works, but this for sure will turn worse and worse and worse if they don't change their approach to it.
Whatever they do it's going to get worse and worse. They do not have the ability to implement the level of lockdown required to stomp it out, all they're accomplishing now is killing people and creating an awful mess in a futile effort to prevent the inevitable.
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Old Apr 24, 2022 | 9:42 pm
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This morning lines in Beijing were long both for testing and to buy food in the supermarkets.
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Old Apr 25, 2022 | 3:37 am
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Originally Posted by Palal
This morning lines in Beijing were long both for testing and to buy food in the supermarkets.
Get out while you still can. My biggest regret is not pulling the trigger on the PVG-SFO flight I had as a backup on March 31. I thought, how bad could it be? Now on day 25 of lockdown and its much worse than I ever thought.
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Old Apr 25, 2022 | 7:17 am
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Originally Posted by Palal
This morning lines in Beijing were long both for testing and to buy food in the supermarkets.
Speaking to my colleagues in Bejing earlier today.... panic buying has started in certain districts.
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Old Apr 25, 2022 | 7:21 am
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Originally Posted by travelinmanS
Get out while you still can. My biggest regret is not pulling the trigger on the PVG-SFO flight I had as a backup on March 31. I thought, how bad could it be? Now on day 25 of lockdown and its much worse than I ever thought.
Damn. How's your food situation?
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