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DuncanCrowdSync Apr 30, 2020 1:49 pm

Current China Entry policy
 
We have a ton of large orders going on with our factories in Shenzhen, and I'm trying to be on the ground over there.

I currently have a 10 year entry visa with a US passport. Can anyone advise if their allowing US citizens in? (i'm perfectly healthy)

Side note would be if there are any one world carriers still flying there? (Im based in NYC)

889 Apr 30, 2020 7:22 pm

At present, you would need to convince a Chinese embassy or consulate to issue you a new visa. With a new visa, you can enter China. You'd have to ask what sort of documents you'd have to produce to support your visa application.

Even if you can enter China, there's still the quarantine to consider.

moondog Apr 30, 2020 8:06 pm


Originally Posted by DuncanCrowdSync (Post 32338490)
We have a ton of large orders going on with our factories in Shenzhen, and I'm trying to be on the ground over there.

I currently have a 10 year entry visa with a US passport. Can anyone advise if their allowing US citizens in? (i'm perfectly healthy)

Side note would be if there are any one world carriers still flying there? (Im based in NYC)

If you are able to procure a new visa, many of us would appreciate your account on what the process entails.

travelinmanS Apr 30, 2020 8:51 pm

You’re not getting into China until they lift the foreigner ban. My friends and I think that’ll happen sometime early next year.

889 Apr 30, 2020 9:04 pm

It is not an absolute ban on foreigners entering China: the official announcement makes clear that foreigners may be granted visas to enter China in certain cases:

"Foreign nationals coming to China for necessary economic, trade, scientific or technological activities or out of emergency humanitarian needs may apply for visas at Chinese embassies or consulates. Entry by foreign nationals with visas issued after this announcement will not be affected."

How the OP would demonstrate that necessary trade activities require his travel to China, I do not know. But the door is there. He'll have to knock to see how widely it will open.

http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/wjbxw/t1761867.shtml

travelinmanS Apr 30, 2020 10:00 pm


Originally Posted by 889 (Post 32339466)
It is not an absolute ban on foreigners entering China: the official announcement makes clear that foreigners may be granted visas to enter China in certain cases:

"Foreign nationals coming to China for necessary economic, trade, scientific or technological activities or out of emergency humanitarian needs may apply for visas at Chinese embassies or consulates. Entry by foreign nationals with visas issued after this announcement will not be affected."

How the OP would demonstrate that necessary trade activities require his travel to China, I do not know. But the door is there. He'll have to knock to see how widely it will open.

http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/wjbxw/t1761867.shtml

China says these things so they can say it isn’t a complete ban. I’d be curious to see how many visas they have issued since the announcement. Probably under 100 worldwide. If the OP is a Nobel prize winning infectious disease specialist or a billionaire investor employing hundreds of thousands of Chinese then maybe they have a shot. Otherwise, nope.

moondog Apr 30, 2020 10:00 pm


Originally Posted by travelinmanS (Post 32339445)
You’re not getting into China until they lift the foreigner ban. My friends and I think that’ll happen sometime early next year.

They are still processing renewals in Shanghai, and presumably other places, so I think you'll be fine yourself.

anacapamalibu Apr 30, 2020 10:12 pm


Originally Posted by travelinmanS (Post 32339549)
China says these things so they can say it isn’t a complete ban. I’d be curious to see how many visas they have issued since the announcement. Probably under 100 worldwide. If the OP is a Nobel prize winning infectious disease specialist or a billionaire investor employing hundreds of thousands of Chinese then maybe they have a shot. Otherwise, nope.

Similar to their "green card" how many have they issued in last 15 years..a few hundred.

What possible pressing reason for business would require a personal visit to china now?
Its locked down..they have no reason to risk infected foreigners coming in.

889 Apr 30, 2020 10:14 pm

You're making some broad statements there based on what you and "your friends" think.

Anything first-hand -- yes, first hand not rumour -- to back up any of your assertions? Anything at all?

Otherwise, you're just guessing.

(No, in terms of daily life, China for the most part is not "locked down.")

anacapamalibu Apr 30, 2020 10:42 pm

If you have urgent business situation that requires a company representative/employee to physically go to china hire a chinese national.

In this emergency the country is in lockdown and restricting entry, in most cases, to only chinese nationals.

I can refer charter flights on a gulfstream its 50k usd per person each way.

889 Apr 30, 2020 10:46 pm

Have you any contact whatever with people in China? If you did, you wouldn't make that sort of statement. Daily life is not "in lockdown" these days.

What's the point of spreading that kind of false information here?

moondog Apr 30, 2020 10:58 pm


Originally Posted by 889 (Post 32339607)
Have you any contact whatever with people in China? If you did, you wouldn't make that sort of statement. Daily life is not "in lockdown" these days.

What's the point of spreading that kind of false information here?

I am guessing that, instead of lockdown, he meant to say unwelcoming to arrivals from other countries. This affects me because if I were to leave now, I wouldn't be allowed to return, but I'm fine with the current policies to the extent that they protect us from further outbreaks.

889 Apr 30, 2020 11:02 pm

"Lockdown" in this crisis has a pretty specific meaning. There are sporadic lockdowns of various degrees still hitting hotspots that sometimes popup, like Suifenhe, but taken as a whole, China is heading back to normal with surprising speed.

anacapamalibu May 1, 2020 12:20 am


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 32339618)
I am guessing that, instead of lockdown, he meant to say unwelcoming to arrivals from other countries. This affects me because if I were to leave now, I wouldn't be allowed to return, but I'm fine with the current policies to the extent that they protect us from further outbreaks.

If you want the legal definition its a"border quarantine".

garykung May 1, 2020 4:42 am


Originally Posted by DuncanCrowdSync (Post 32338490)
I currently have a 10 year entry visa with a US passport. Can anyone advise if their allowing US citizens in? (i'm perfectly healthy)

No. You will need special permission, i.e. a new visa.


Originally Posted by DuncanCrowdSync (Post 32338490)
Side note would be if there are any one world carriers still flying there? (Im based in NYC)

No. China does not have any OW carrier. The closest one is CX, i.e. to Hong Kong.

But you are banned in Hong Kong.


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