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Originally Posted by gudugan
(Post 34072206)
And Chinese people in countries outside of the mainland/HK/Macau/Taiwan are making a mistake being there instead of the safe place that is the mainland.
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They are discussing flights diverting from PVG so they can use the hotels for local quarantine cases.
They allow HK flights to continue because they need an excuse to end the zero Covid policy and blaming HK is convenient and acceptable to most people here. That’s my opinion on these two issues for what it’s worth. |
Originally Posted by kb1992
(Post 34071789)
The policy that people don't have own place but want to stay in Shanghai MUST go to Q hotels for additional 7 days took effect January 24, 2022.
2022??????????(??+??)- ????? Before that they can stay at any hotel (not Q hotel) and move freely, with additional tests. This is definitely recent, not October 2021 as you claimed. The Kingdom treats HK so nicely, even though technically HK is considered "international arrival" Just compare how China enforces COVID rules for US vs HK. Huge, huge difference. At this point, every pax from the US must pass 4 different PCR/Anti-gen tests on day 1, 5, 6 before they can board the flight. How many tests HK pax take before flying to PVG? Where is HK considered an "international arrival?" China wouldn't use such a word. "International" as in "guo wai"? I'm pretty sure that 99.9% of the people in China think the US is a different country. |
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 34073060)
They are discussing flights diverting from PVG so they can use the hotels for local quarantine cases.
They allow HK flights to continue because they need an excuse to end the zero Covid policy and blaming HK is convenient and acceptable to most people here. That’s my opinion on these two issues for what it’s worth. |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 34071656)
Whether you test positive or negative on arrival, you are still accounted for in the Q hotel numbers...but, might end up going to a hospital in the case of positive. There is no increased demand for Q hotels.
It isn't an issue of hotel rooms, it's the limited number of qualified staff to run the Q hotels. The issue at Huating was partly down to the use of temp staff. |
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 34073060)
They allow HK flights to continue because they need an excuse to end the zero Covid policy and blaming HK is convenient and acceptable to most people here.
In any case the peak in HK seems to have passed so whether flights from there are shut down or not is no longer relevant to the current situation in China. |
Originally Posted by narvik
(Post 34066311)
Well, we better brace ourselves, is what I am predicting: the next few weeks might get real brutal...and not only in Shanghai.
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Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel
(Post 34073347)
This. Wuhan was only the introductory act. They've managed to hold it at bay but they're losing it now and there will come a point where they can't manage the logistics of lockdown.
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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 34073351)
You might be right, but I certainly wouldn't bet against them.
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Originally Posted by narvik
(Post 34073364)
The cost (I don't mean monetary) will likely be excessive to contain it, and 'other things' will start breaking down.....IMO.
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Originally Posted by gudugan
(Post 34070767)
Going to get some popcorn. https://weekly.chinacdc.cn/news/Trac...htm#NHC22Mar13
March 13, 2022 Confirmed: 1,938 new, 7,230 current. Asymptomatic: 1,455 new, 6,287 current. Recoveries: 169 new. Deaths: 0 new. |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 34073395)
I hear you, but their containment measures increasingly appear to have no limits.
At that time the restrictions will ease again, to prevent a "real problem"! This is all likely going to play out over the next few week & months... |
Originally Posted by narvik
(Post 34073427)
I am predicting that the measures will increase in strictness, until such time as it reaches a boiling point, and simply won't be accepted or be enforceable anymore.
At that time the restrictions will ease again, to prevent a "real problem"! This is all likely going to play out over the next few week & months... |
Originally Posted by s0ssos
(Post 34073436)
You know, my friend in Guangzhou made an interesting point. The numbers are "fixed". As in, how come Tianhe didn't get locked down when other places did?
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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 34073446)
Perhaps there weren't any cases in Tianhe?
She also pointed out some other stuff that is pretty funny/loopholes. Like how she isn't vaccinated. And how her dad didn't quarantine when coming back from a trip to another part of China that had an outbreak. Why? Because their hukou is another place, though they have lived in Tianhe for years. At least in their case officials in one district didn't communicate with the other. She has lots of funny stories like that. I don't know how common her situation is, but I guess some people slip through the cracks. |
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