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moondog Mar 15, 2022 9:14 am


Originally Posted by gudugan (Post 34077203)

I suppose there are different levels of lockdowns, but I thought narvik was referring to the "CCTV camera on door" and/or "guards sealing off your neighborhood" variety because only this level would prevent him from going to the airport.

Shanghai has used this approach quite sparingly thus far. I think of the men in white as sharp shooters. If someone in your compound tests positive, watch out. Otherwise, things are cool. Another thing about Shanghai that I hinted at yesterday is that the individual districts set and enforce their own rules. When I walked to lunch today, I passed between Xuhui and Jing'an and the contrast was enormous. In the former most restaurants were open for inside dining whereas in the latter only the tiny noodle places dared. And I had to show my health code to enter an outdoor plaza at lunch. My dining experience was still great in spite of this stuff.
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kb1992 Mar 15, 2022 10:48 am


Originally Posted by s0ssos (Post 34077191)
People are dying in Korea, from omicron. I haven't read any scientific articles that stated omicron is less deadly. I have read that it was less deadly than delta, but the same deadliness as as the original COVID.

And the mRNA vaccines made by pfizer and moderna aren't very effective against omicron, which leads me to presume the Chinese vaccines are basically useless. So you basically have a whole country of unvaccinated people.

I read some study showing China's vaccines aren't effective preventing infection, but somewhat do reduce hospitalization and death.

So it's better than nothing.

joesk Mar 15, 2022 10:54 am

***narvik

Exit plan to US from Beijing if urgent, currently the tentative plan is get out to ICN, DL hub and pick up a DL flight to US. It seems too many variables to travel to PVG.

kb1992 Mar 15, 2022 10:55 am


Originally Posted by travelinmanS (Post 34076618)
This has been perhaps my worst China week in my 15+ years of being here. Company goes wfh but boss overseas made it clear he still expects normal budgeted growth (over 40% growth this year are our targets) with no hiccups despite our factory shutting for a few days. Xi Jinping’s crusade against tech and love for Russia has erased about 20% of my portfolio in a few days time and I’m living in shanghai under the constant threat of lockdown. Already taken 3 tests this week and just waiting for the hammer to drop and snowmen to appear at my compound gates.

I’ve lived here and loved this place for a long time, but man things are changing fast and they aren’t changing for the better. Not really sure what to do but I thought I’d vent to you all.

This gets me pause.

I just hope that it will get better in May when I am scheduled to fly SFO PVG.

I also hope that by then, the Kingdom realizes that 14+7 quarantine is simply stupid, and total waste of resources.

if it gets worse, I'll just fly to SIN and Thailand for vacation.

moondog Mar 15, 2022 1:14 pm


Originally Posted by joesk (Post 34077687)
***narvik

Exit plan to US from Beijing if urgent, currently the tentative plan is get out to ICN, DL hub and pick up a DL flight to US. It seems too many variables to travel to PVG.

I like your Korea plan but I would try to buy a single ticket to the US from BJS, probably on KE though I'm not seeing any KE flights until May.

travelinmanS Mar 15, 2022 4:06 pm

Just got the notice sent to my wechat at 4:30am. My community in Shanghai is now under lockdown. The gates went up in front of the compound right after and we all need to take 2 tests within 48 hours before we are released. I doubt that we will be released then however as I don’t see the spread of Omicron stopping and I’m hunkering in for a long incarceration.

Now I can sit alone in my thoughts as I watch my Chinese tech stocks collapse! Definitely is stepping up the timing of my exit plan.

gudugan Mar 15, 2022 4:25 pm


Originally Posted by joesk (Post 34077687)
***narvik

Exit plan to US from Beijing if urgent, currently the tentative plan is get out to ICN, DL hub and pick up a DL flight to US. It seems too many variables to travel to PVG.

I would layover in HKG (transit is allowed there) or alternatively fly to any country that Chinese citizens need a visa to. Then plan next steps from there.

narvik Mar 15, 2022 4:33 pm


Originally Posted by gudugan (Post 34078668)
I would layover in HKG (transit is allowed there) or alternatively fly to any country that Chinese citizens need a visa to. Then plan next steps from there.

Yes, I am already considering HKG, and SIN too.
(PVG is booked, but I somewhat doubt it's going to work...)

moondog Mar 15, 2022 5:14 pm


Originally Posted by gudugan (Post 34078668)
I would layover in HKG (transit is allowed there) or alternatively fly to any country that Chinese citizens need a visa to. Then plan next steps from there.

I don't endorse the HK because there aren't many flights to the US from there, you sort of need to have your next flight already in place, and if anything goes wrong, you have to wait in the airport or else enter quarantine. In addition to Korea, Singapore and Thailand are okay (need travel insurance for the latter).

YariGuy Mar 15, 2022 5:57 pm


Originally Posted by travelinmanS (Post 34078600)
Just got the notice sent to my wechat at 4:30am. My community in Shanghai is now under lockdown. The gates went up in front of the compound right after and we all need to take 2 tests within 48 hours before we are released. I doubt that we will be released then however as I don’t see the spread of Omicron stopping and I’m hunkering in for a long incarceration.

Now I can sit alone in my thoughts as I watch my Chinese tech stocks collapse! Definitely is stepping up the timing of my exit plan.

Same thing happened to us last night. I'll be home for the next 48 hours (at least).

UA_Flyer Mar 15, 2022 6:27 pm

I would suggest Singapore. There are some really good fares out of SIN back to the US on NH to Tokyo then United.
The UA direct flight to SFO is also reasonable in Y fare qualifying for upgrade.

The challenge is get to SIN.

narvik Mar 15, 2022 6:48 pm


Originally Posted by UA_Flyer (Post 34078929)
I would suggest Singapore. There are some really good fares out of SIN back to the US on NH to Tokyo then United.
The UA direct flight to SFO is also reasonable in Y fare qualifying for upgrade.

The challenge is get to SIN.

(bolding mine)

This!
I'm probably going to go to US via NZ, so I looked at SIN. Will likely make a reward res fro m SIN-AKL also, but like you write; I am somewhat doubtful to even get to SIN to cathc that flight.

moondog Mar 15, 2022 7:15 pm


Originally Posted by narvik (Post 34078972)
(bolding mine)

This!
I'm probably going to go to US via NZ, so I looked at SIN. Will likely make a reward res fro m SIN-AKL also, but like you write; I am somewhat doubtful to even get to SIN to cathc that flight.

It seems there are no BJS-SIN flights? And, CX only flies to SIN on Saturday mornings. But, if you get a morning flight to HK, you should definitely be able to catch one of the SQ flights.

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Actually, it looks like PVG-AKL might be your best bet. And, the good thing about this is you are allowed to stay overnight in Shanghai if there are any issues.
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narvik Mar 15, 2022 7:22 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 34079040)
It seems there are no BJS-SIN flights? And, CX only flies to SIN on Saturday mornings. But, if you get a morning flight to HK, you should definitely be able to catch one of the SQ flights.


Actually, it looks like PVG-AKL might be your best bet. And, the good thing about this is you are allowed to stay overnight in Shanghai if there are any issues.


Cheers for that. Yeah, I didn't think there were ANY international flights mere mortals can take from any BJS airport.
What do you mean with "overnight in Shanghai"? Is that a thing?
I am already booked on a PVG-AKL flight (in J, with miles....for cheap! lol) ----> that is Plan A....what I am after now is Plan B! :)

moondog Mar 15, 2022 8:04 pm


Originally Posted by narvik (Post 34079064)
What do you mean with "overnight in Shanghai"? Is that a thing?

You shouldn't need to overnight in SH, but my point was you could if things went wrong (e.g. you miss your connection or the connection is canceled). The only reason I mention this is as a contrast to HK, where you'd be stuck inside of the airport.


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