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Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 34111148)
The government has now taken the absolutely insane decision to lock down Shanghai in 2 parts. Tonight until April 1 for Pudong and April 1 until April 5 for Puxi.
All in a quest to knock out a virus for which they say 98% of people who get it are asymptomatic. The authority in China does not understand science.
Originally Posted by YuropFlyer
(Post 34111316)
Yeah, you all know I've been supportive of the 0-covid-strategy in the past and found it way superior to that of other countries (just like the one in NZ), but the last few months aren't a good show for the PRC and it might get much worse if they keep it that way. Failure to adjust a strategy isn't the best approach.
Singapore shows the world (or better said: Asia) how it's done. NZ as well. China will continue its zero COVID policy to show that their system is superior to the rest of the world.
Originally Posted by gudugan
(Post 34111429)
The amusing thing is how they said recently they weren’t going to lock down. Now they’re changing their mind as fast as the HK government!
It's not amusing for people who live in Shanghai now. Let's see how long this lock-down will last. |
Originally Posted by YuropFlyer
(Post 34111316)
Yeah, you all know I've been supportive of the 0-covid-strategy in the past and found it way superior to that of other countries (just like the one in NZ), but the last few months aren't a good show for the PRC and it might get much worse if they keep it that way. Failure to adjust a strategy isn't the best approach.
Singapore shows the world (or better said: Asia) how it's done. NZ as well. Forcing everyone to line up two or three days in a row, packed together in line so that they can take a PCR test is a great way to spread a highly infectious airborne pathogen. |
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 34112167)
The inability to change course on a bad policy is one of the downsides of an authoritarian system with one man rule. We are now seeing this play out in real time in two different countries.
Forcing everyone to line up two or three days in a row, packed together in line so that they can take a PCR test is a great way to spread a highly infectious airborne pathogen. And I guess we shouldn't try to bring politics in here (as you seem to try), since that doesn't help with the discussion at all. |
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 34111148)
The government has now taken the absolutely insane decision to lock down Shanghai in 2 parts. Tonight until April 1 for Pudong and April 1 until April 5 for Puxi.
All in a quest to knock out a virus for which they say 98% of people who get it are asymptomatic. |
Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 34112429)
Could someone evade the quarantine by moving to a hotel on the other side of the river (Puxi vs Pudong) than the area that's being locked down?
My guess is the lockdown will be much longer than just 4 days. If they must adhere to the zero Covid policy there is no way that omicron will be zero in 4 days. |
what's the situation with PVG? Will that stay open? Can I fly PEK ---> PVG?
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Has moondog come along to pretend things in China are still super fun and not that bad :)
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Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 34111148)
The government has now taken the absolutely insane decision to lock down Shanghai in 2 parts. Tonight until April 1 for Pudong and April 1 until April 5 for Puxi.
All in a quest to knock out a virus for which they say 98% of people who get it are asymptomatic. Omicron spreads much better than the original, if China fails to contain it we are going to see an awful lot of death. |
Originally Posted by GloballyServiced
(Post 34112670)
Has moondog come along to pretend things in China are still super fun and not that bad :)
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Originally Posted by narvik
(Post 34112620)
what's the situation with PVG? Will that stay open? Can I fly PEK ---> PVG?
UA just issued a TRAVEL WAIVER for Shanghai PVG from March 28 to April 6. Anyone know what's going on with PVG, i.e. current status? |
Originally Posted by GloballyServiced
(Post 34112670)
Has moondog come along to pretend things in China are still super fun and not that bad :)
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Originally Posted by narvik
(Post 34112913)
UA just issued a TRAVEL WAIVER for Shanghai PVG from March 28 to April 6.
Anyone know what's going on with PVG, i.e. current status? It also looks like every conceivable flight is cancelled however…so I’m not sure. If it’s Wuhan style lockdown then there won’t be any flights. They may keep some international flights but getting your domestic connection may not be possible. It’s all kind of a crapshoot now I think. |
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 34112924)
They announced all the busses from Puxi to PVG are running these days. I think the line 7 to maglev transfer is working as well. So presumably PVG is accessible for those not locked in Pudong at least.
It also looks like every conceivable flight is cancelled however…so I’m not sure. If it’s Wuhan style lockdown then there won’t be any flights. They may keep some international flights but getting your domestic connection may not be possible. It’s all kind of a crapshoot now I think. |
Reports of the Swiss flight to Shanghai was cancelled today 20 minutes before departure, leaving the mostly Chinese passengers from the UK stranded within the airport.
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Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel
(Post 34112692)
So Wuhan didn't happen?
Omicron spreads much better than the original, if China fails to contain it we are going to see an awful lot of death. |
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