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Originally Posted by STS-134
(Post 34140844)
They still haven't figured out that they are in a hole, so they are continuing to dig. I'm going to get a pretty good laugh once they finally realize that they've been off course, because anyone with common sense recognized this months ago.
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Originally Posted by HkCaGu
(Post 34141799)
Pro-BJ HK businessman Lew Mong-hung a.k.a. "Dream Bear" described on radio yesterday the current approach as 刻舟求劍 (lit: mark boat seek sword) from a guy who dropped his sword into the water. He was looking for his sword after the boat had moved.
I wonder what the Hong Kong's current approach is (using Chinese proverb) now that I have moved to HK from the PRC. |
Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
(Post 34141851)
LOL, thanks for sharing!
I wonder what the Hong Kong's current approach is (using Chinese proverb) now that I have moved to HK from the PRC. |
Twilight Zone:
CAN, T2 at 7pm packed to the brim with no people at all. 😲 https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f65ac8dc67.jpg |
Originally Posted by HkCaGu
(Post 34141799)
Pro-BJ HK businessman Lew Mong-hung a.k.a. "Dream Bear" described on radio yesterday the current approach as 刻舟求劍 (lit: mark boat seek sword) from a guy who dropped his sword into the water. He was looking for his sword after the boat had moved.
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Originally Posted by STS-134
(Post 34142090)
I asked my wife about that. She said it's a story about a guy who drops his sword off a boat, marks the spot on the boat where he dropped his sword, then goes back home and thinks he can jump off the boat at the marked spot and look for the sword. I asked how she knows the story and she said it was in her elementary school textbook. Is this some Chinese version of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" or "The Three Little Pigs" that everyone just somehow knows?
If you are learning Chinese as a second language it is a proper pain because knowing each individual character of the phrase is often meaningless unless you know the underlying story (e.g. what does "mark boat seek sword" mean without the story?). In addition modern Chinese has a lot of new slang, made up words, and carryover words from English that mean something completely different than the English term which adds other levels of complexity. some examples: 躺平 - originally means to lie down; now is similar to the western concept of “antiwork” or “avoiding the rat race” Ins - everyone else in the world calls Instagram IG but Chinese people call it Ins PK - stands for “player kill” in a video game, term is not commonly used in English but means “to fight each other 1v1” in Chinese |
Originally Posted by STS-134
(Post 34137967)
You know how to make an antigen test return a negative result, right? Don't swab your nose, then post a photo of your "negative" test. As long as they continue to lock neighbors down as a result of one person in an entire compound testing positive, they are providing a significant incentive for people to lie, bribe, or cheat their way to a negative test, even if they are infected.
If my analogy on participating in these tests is akin to discharging a tax obligation (I can't remember if I've used this analogy on FT yet, I've analogised the Hong Kong Fri/Sat/Sun tests as voluntarily reporting and paying taxes), obviously there will be incentives for people to lie on their tax return.
Originally Posted by narvik
(Post 34138541)
In stark contrast: I just took RT-PCR tests here in Beijing, and I am still surprised that no one actually checks ID. Anyone could just turn up, and do a test for anyone else, it seems. Might have been a phone login at one point, but not too sure. Seems odd...
Just in case, I took two tests, one for each passport I am using for this trip.
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 34138746)
Thats actually true here as well. They only look at the code on your phone and scan it. Conceivably you could register and send the code screenshot to someone else and have them test for you. That would work in a big compound with lots of foreigners. I’m the only foreigner in my building and they all know me and my apartment number. So I wouldn’t be able to pull it off during these lockdown tests but I presumably could have had someone take my tests a few weeks ago when they were mass testing at a place further away from my building.
Originally Posted by STS-134
(Post 34138836)
Now that they've brought in people from outside the city to help, none of those people know anyone. And I would think locals might have a bigger incentive to cheat or lie; foreigners can be expelled for breaking the rules, plus aren't a lot of the foreigners there single? If they're still separating parents and children if the children test positive but the parents do not, a parent whose child has symptoms would have a pretty high motivation to, say, swab nothing and just put the drops in the antigen test kit to show a "negative" test for the kid. Of course, you can't do that if it's an in-person PCR test but you might be able to substitute another kid for the sick one. Obviously there aren't going to be any statistics on how often stuff like this happens but I'd be surprised if it's not happening.
Originally Posted by uanj
(Post 34140799)
Aggravating the situation is the fact that the city government asked people not to hoard food or panic buy because there would always be plenty of supply and they could order online. The people who followed this request are the worst off.
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Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 34142316)
Shows they trust their government up to this point unlike us in Hong Kong, where we gotten pretty used to doing exactly what the government has told us not to do since at least 2019 (i. don't mask up ii. don't get the vaccine and iii. don't raid the supermarket).
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Made it to Auckland!
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Originally Posted by narvik
(Post 34143794)
Made it to Auckland!
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Originally Posted by gudugan
(Post 34141888)
Um... exactly the same proverb? https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/34141036-post71.html
Originally Posted by STS-134
(Post 34142090)
I asked my wife about that. She said it's a story about a guy who drops his sword off a boat, marks the spot on the boat where he dropped his sword, then goes back home and thinks he can jump off the boat at the marked spot and look for the sword. I asked how she knows the story and she said it was in her elementary school textbook. Is this some Chinese version of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" or "The Three Little Pigs" that everyone just somehow knows?
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https://weekly.chinacdc.cn/news/TrackingtheEpidemic.htm
March 25: 4988 cases March 26: 5765 cases March 27: 5702 cases March 28: 6409 cases March 29: 7051 cases March 30: 8825 cases March 31: 8559 cases April 1: 7386 cases April 2: 9998 cases April 3: 13287 cases April 4: 13267 cases April 5: 16590 cases April 6: 20614 cases Seems the doubling time is getting smaller, and went from ~8 days to ~4 days. Should we make bets on when they'll start seeing > 100k cases/day? If this rate of growth continues, it could happen by the end of April. |
20K cases and the rest... and that's the rest of the reported cases, let alone the non-reported ones..
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I really hope they find a way to back away from zero Covid. People are gonna start to get real desperate in about a week if they food situation remains the same here.
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Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 34144208)
I really hope they find a way to back away from zero Covid. People are gonna start to get real desperate in about a week if they food situation remains the same here.
Pretty sure they do monitor the situation outside of China, especially in Asian countries, and should have come to conclusions that Omicron can't be contained, and that it's danger isn't that high anymore (especially when booster shots rolled out to elderly) So yes, for once I can say I don't understand what's going on as the logic that was behind 0-covid is gone, and there isn't any reasonable replacement strategy. Sticking to a non-working covid-0 is just.. bad! |
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