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Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 34043158)
By "sublime", I was referring to the exceptional friendliness of the cabin crew.
:D |
Originally Posted by narvik
(Post 34043208)
Let me guess, Vincent also works as a UA flight attendant?
:D The entry fee is seriously 5 figures now, though. China is honestly pretty nice these days, but maybe not that nice. |
Originally Posted by kb1992
(Post 34043207)
More than 100 people died in HK yesterday, for a population of 7 million,
The Kingdom would never accept that. |
Originally Posted by moondog
(Post 34043251)
Oh my! I can see that the horse has left the barn. Simply put, if Vincent (or competitor) agrees to work with any of you guys, you will be able to come here, full stop!
The entry fee is seriously 5 figures now, though. China is honestly pretty nice these days, but maybe not that nice.
Originally Posted by ftrichard
(Post 34043274)
The Kingdom would never accept that *being reported publicly*. I think you finished your sentence a few words early :).
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Shanghai is still reasonably fun but that gets old in a hurry if you aren’t an alcoholic. Shenzhen is now in a full on Orwellian lockdown with a sea of hazmat suited personnel deployed throughout Futian Nanshan and Shekou. You are given a 3 hour window to leave your apartment to procure groceries once a week.
China is not even registering on the radar as a fun place to be for anyone who isn’t a victim of Stockholm syndrome. |
Originally Posted by GloballyServiced
(Post 34043615)
Shanghai is still reasonably fun but that gets old in a hurry if you aren’t an alcoholic. Shenzhen is now in a full on Orwellian lockdown with a sea of hazmat suited personnel deployed throughout Futian Nanshan and Shekou. You are given a 3 hour window to leave your apartment to procure groceries once a week.
China is not even registering on the radar as a fun place to be for anyone who isn’t a victim of Stockholm syndrome. employees of mine are in government lockdown now. |
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 34043781)
It’s coming to Shanghai soon as Omicron has been spreading here for a few days now. Some
employees of mine are in government lockdown now. |
Originally Posted by GloballyServiced
(Post 34043615)
Shanghai is still reasonably fun but that gets old in a hurry if you aren’t an alcoholic. Shenzhen is now in a full on Orwellian lockdown with a sea of hazmat suited personnel deployed throughout Futian Nanshan and Shekou. You are given a 3 hour window to leave your apartment to procure groceries once a week.
China is not even registering on the radar as a fun place to be for anyone who isn’t a victim of Stockholm syndrome.
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 34043781)
It’s coming to Shanghai soon as Omicron has been spreading here for a few days now. Some
employees of mine are in government lockdown now.
Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 34043958)
I have every confidence SH is going to show HK up on how to manage a proper zero lockdown.
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Originally Posted by kb1992
(Post 34044148)
This is inevitable. Nobody can beat Omicron.
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Originally Posted by kb1992
(Post 34044148)
This is inevitable. Nobody can beat Omicron.
Wait until large waves of Omicron. Current zero COVID strategy will eventually fail. If you believe Zero Covid will fail, then the logical move is to shift the messaging and eventually open up (like in the above quoted WSJ article). Based on Hong Kong this probability is more likely than not. If you believe Zero Covid won’t fail, then you keep locking down everything again. However there are other confounding factors like the rest of the world is opening up, local property markets, etc. The dumb part is if they get stuck in the middle (Zero Covid fails, but they don’t open it up) ie. Hong Kong. If you look at New Zealand, they just dropped all the quarantine requirements because there are more cases inside the country than out and are accelerating the border reopening timeline. |
Originally Posted by gudugan
(Post 34045153)
This is pretty simple:
If you believe Zero Covid will fail, then the logical move is to shift the messaging and eventually open up (like in the above quoted WSJ article). Based on Hong Kong this probability is more likely than not. If you believe Zero Covid won’t fail, then you keep locking down everything again. However there are other confounding factors like the rest of the world is opening up, local property markets, etc. The dumb part is if they get stuck in the middle (Zero Covid fails, but they don’t open it up) ie. Hong Kong. If you look at New Zealand, they just dropped all the quarantine requirements because there are more cases inside the country than out and are accelerating the border reopening timeline. What is going on in Hong Kong now is asinine, yet they still cling to “dynamic” zero Covid. Why? Xi knows why. |
Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 34046422)
What is going on in Hong Kong now is asinine, yet they still cling to “dynamic” zero Covid. Why? Xi knows why.
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Originally Posted by travelinmanS
(Post 34046422)
Most know zero Covid is dumb. Most don’t want to tell the emperor. Hence, zero Covid will be China’s policy going forward for the foreseeable future.
What is going on in Hong Kong now is asinine, yet they still cling to “dynamic” zero Covid. Why? Xi knows why. I still can't believe that elderly people in an advanced modern city like HK refused to be vaccinated. It's a recipe for disaster. Worse, the government of HK dare not acknowledge that PRC vaccine is hugely ineffective. Instead, they seduced people in HK to get vaccine produced in the Kingdom in order to please the emperor. |
Originally Posted by kb1992
(Post 34047027)
I still can't believe that elderly people in an advanced modern city like HK refused to be vaccinated.
It's a recipe for disaster. Worse, the government of HK dare not acknowledge that PRC vaccine is hugely ineffective. Instead, they seduced people in HK to get vaccine produced in the Kingdom in order to please the emperor. The only way to get them to vaccinate is a outbreak like the one we're having now. It worked to drive up vaccination numbers in NSW in their last winter, it will work here for our seniors. Of course, it will never be official policy to allow an outbreak, hence all the theatre about testing. It's a combination of King Pooh commanding back the tide, and the Emperor's New Clothes of everyone trying to say it's working. |
Originally Posted by kb1992
(Post 34047027)
Worse, the government of HK dare not acknowledge that PRC vaccine is hugely ineffective.
Instead, they seduced people in HK to get vaccine produced in the Kingdom in order to please the emperor. China has had the mRNA option, and they have chosen against it...perhaps because they see it as more of an experimental therapeutic than true vaccine. I don’t know if that’s correct, but neither was the narrative that covid STOPS with mRNA. To blast them as “trying to please the emperor” is absurd. |
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