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yoyo Jun 28, 2021 10:30 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 33365946)
Thanks. It appears that I still have a lot to learn. Why don't the Chinese understand the "network carrier" concept? My understanding is that a minority of passengers who use the DFW and DTW flights actually live in Dallas/Detroit.

What makes you think they want to understand? They don't want people returning to China, their own citizens included.

realgaga Jun 28, 2021 10:40 pm


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 33365946)
Thanks. It appears that I still have a lot to learn. Why don't the Chinese understand the "network carrier" concept? My understanding is that a minority of passengers who use the DFW and DTW flights actually live in Dallas/Detroit.

According to the embassy website, it is to prevent pax from getting infected when travelling across states after testing.
Link to Chinese Embassy in the USA

uanj Jun 28, 2021 10:43 pm


Originally Posted by travelinmanS (Post 33365328)
You need to get the code from the DC embassy if flying from DFW. You also won’t be flying from Boston and connecting through DFW. You’ll need to be in Dallas at least 2 days before as the Covid test needs to be taken in the city of departure from the USA.

I know you want to go home this summer but you should probably brush up a bit more on how it all works before you make the trip.


Originally Posted by moondog (Post 33364104)
I'm angling to get my return green code from the NYC consulate (starting from BOS) so I can fly back via DFW...that flight does NOT sell out.

What I am hearing is it is important to apply for the green code BEFORE you leave China. moondog have you looked into this?

moondog Jun 28, 2021 11:24 pm


Originally Posted by uanj (Post 33365976)
What I am hearing is it is important to apply for the green code BEFORE you leave China. moondog have you looked into this?

Not really. I was simply planning on calling the NYC consulate because Boston is part of its domain. I'm going to message my visa guy, and see if he has any insights/advice.

GloballyServiced Jun 28, 2021 11:33 pm

You will not be getting any green codes unless you take your tests at the pre-approved testing facilities in the metro area of the flight you depart from directly to China. The only entity that will be giving green codes for DFW flights is the DC consulate and a member here posted that you have a 0.000% chance of getting the green code as an American with an RP. I confirmed this with our immigration legal team.

Unless things change, you should plan on being stuck in the US indefinitely if you’re just going to wing it.

I highly recommend trying to fly out of LAX and have a very strong business or humanitarian letter to attach to your pre approval request email to the consulate.

moondog no offense but I think you don’t retain information very well on this forum. Do not book a DFW-PVG ticket, we already went over this.

travelinmanS Jun 29, 2021 1:07 am


Originally Posted by uanj (Post 33365976)
What I am hearing is it is important to apply for the green code BEFORE you leave China. moondog have you looked into this?

Its not really the green code you apply for before you leave China, it’s basically permission to apply for the green code. They’ll tell you they accept your reason for traveling which theoretically means you’ll get a green code when you apply in the USA 2 days before your flight back to China. This assumes you don’t get Covid during your trip in the USA. If that happens, see you in 5 years.

GloballyServiced Jun 29, 2021 3:08 am


Originally Posted by tauphi (Post 33365802)
Imagine that you're a German national on a work visa working in the USA. As it currently stands, if you travel back to Germany for the summer holidays you cannot return to the US, unless you first spend 14 days in some third country (where you might end up getting stuck should the situation there suddenly deteriorate).

So the US is hardly open when it comes to allowing people into the country.

Fair enough, but I think there’s reason to believe that the US ban on foreign travel from Europe which sleepy Joe reinstated in January will probably be going away in the near future. Which is why I originally said the western world is “opening up”

But, for now, having to spend 2 weeks roaming free in Cancun with normal-ish airfares and no green codes or visas is probably a much easier pill to swallow than 2 weeks in a glorified Chinese prison getting brain biopsies every few days. And that’s assuming you can afford the airfare and have a very open timeline on dealing with the green code blackbox process.

uanj Jun 29, 2021 3:26 am


Originally Posted by travelinmanS (Post 33366176)
Its not really the green code you apply for before you leave China, it’s basically permission to apply for the green code. They’ll tell you they accept your reason for traveling which theoretically means you’ll get a green code when you apply in the USA 2 days before your flight back to China. This assumes you don’t get Covid during your trip in the USA. If that happens, see you in 5 years.

Yes, you are correct, I did not word that properly and thanks for catching it. But the key is to start the process before leaving China and have a workable plan.


Originally Posted by GloballyServiced (Post 33366319)
Fair enough, but I think there’s reason to believe that the US ban on foreign travel from Europe which sleepy Joe reinstated in January will probably be going away in the near future. Which is why I originally said the western world is “opening up”

But, for now, having to spend 2 weeks roaming free in Cancun with normal-ish airfares and no green codes or visas is probably a much easier pill to swallow than 2 weeks in a glorified Chinese prison getting brain biopsies every few days. And that’s assuming you can afford the airfare and have a very open timeline on dealing with the green code blackbox process.

Apart from the UK, I think we can expect the European travel ban to be dropped fairly soon. Personally I would love to have to spend two weeks in Mexico going wherever I wanted. That is nirvana compared to the quarantines I have done.

GloballyServiced Jun 29, 2021 3:53 am

I don’t really agree with emailing the consulate to ask for their approval for you to start your round trip from China, unless someone has heard a compelling reason to do that. Or if you yourself have a very compelling humanitarian reason for the trip that you know they’ll be onboard with.

Id just apply for your pre approval to return to China and state the reason you need to get back to China. I don’t need them in the weeds of why I’m going back to the US.

In March of this year I emailed the LA consulate a week before I wanted to fly back to China. Then I booked the flights and handled the green code testing + application once they sent me a reply (fully in Chinese).

To my knowledge, Jan-Mar of this year was the strictest time period for green codes.

jfidler Jun 29, 2021 1:06 pm

There's a business event in Hohhot I'd like to attend in October. I've read a lot of this thread and I should be able to handle all the paperwork, green codes, and related bureaucracy to get into China from the US. The one that is the deal-killer is the 2-week quarantine.

Based on what others have written in this thread, there doesn't appear to be much hope that the 2-week quarantine requirement will be lifted any time soon. Is that a fair assessment? I'm debating if I should inform my contacts now that I'll be unable to make it -- there's another event in the US at the same time so then I can proceed with that, even though the event in China will be much more worthwhile.

realgaga Jun 29, 2021 1:19 pm


Originally Posted by jfidler (Post 33367869)
There's a business event in Hohhot I'd like to attend in October. I've read a lot of this thread and I should be able to handle all the paperwork, green codes, and related bureaucracy to get into China from the US. The one that is the deal-killer is the 2-week quarantine.

Based on what others have written in this thread, there doesn't appear to be much hope that the 2-week quarantine requirement will be lifted any time soon. Is that a fair assessment? I'm debating if I should inform my contacts now that I'll be unable to make it -- there's another event in the US at the same time so then I can proceed with that, even though the event in China will be much more worthwhile.

The event host should be able to sort out all the required official paperwork for you to get approved for travel to China.

AFAIK, there's no plan to reduce or eliminate quarantine. I would also like to remind you that many entry ports in China, including Guangzhou and Shanghai, require 14 days hotel Q + 7 days home Q or 21 days hotel Q if you don't have a local Chinese home address.

gudugan Jun 29, 2021 1:25 pm


Originally Posted by jfidler (Post 33367869)
Based on what others have written in this thread, there doesn't appear to be much hope that the 2-week quarantine requirement will be lifted any time soon. Is that a fair assessment?

100% no hope https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...les-vaccinated

This poor German guy has spent at least 10 weeks in quarantine now...
That's like a fourth of a one year prison sentence

moondog Jun 29, 2021 11:34 pm

Some people are not getting to enjoy their quarantines in hospitals (only 3 days of the total though, based on the article):

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/Ex9BHWFbDI__H3JUxrSrNQ

GloballyServiced Jun 29, 2021 11:54 pm

Maybe I won’t be taking any vaccine after all if it makes the experience somehow worse. Pretty amazing.

moondog Jun 30, 2021 12:20 am


Originally Posted by GloballyServiced (Post 33369124)
Maybe I won’t be taking any vaccine after all if it makes the experience somehow worse. Pretty amazing.

You're looking Y200 (plus the cost of going to/from hospitals with open time slots). This is a small price to pay for improving your odds of getting a green code when you come back.


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