Current China Entry policy
#1726




Join Date: May 2010
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Just got an email from UA, their tickets are canceled.
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As a result of an unanticipated mandate from the Shanghai Government, we had to cancel your reservation XXXXXX for flight 857 from San Francisco to Shanghai on 4/15/2022.
Please contact United at 1-877-826-0254 to review rebooking options or to request a refund. For more information on our cancellation and refund policies, go to united.com/refund. We are sorry for this inconvenience and appreciate your understanding and cooperation during the process.
If you have a comment or complaint about your travel disruption, we suggest raising it with the Chinese government in the U.S. or its consulate office.
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So, UA is telling us to complain to the Chinese government LOL
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As a result of an unanticipated mandate from the Shanghai Government, we had to cancel your reservation XXXXXX for flight 857 from San Francisco to Shanghai on 4/15/2022.
Please contact United at 1-877-826-0254 to review rebooking options or to request a refund. For more information on our cancellation and refund policies, go to united.com/refund. We are sorry for this inconvenience and appreciate your understanding and cooperation during the process.
If you have a comment or complaint about your travel disruption, we suggest raising it with the Chinese government in the U.S. or its consulate office.
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So, UA is telling us to complain to the Chinese government LOL
#1727
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 11,250
Not sure what you're trying to say.
The case which kb1992 has brought forward is about pax having their flights cancelled because the PRC reduced allowed occupancy rate on flights TO China.
Those flights can still leave with normal occupancy when departing FROM China, unless I'm mistaken. So pax booked on flights departing FROM China are not affected.
Same aircraft. Inbound to China (PRC) maximum capacity is cut, Outbound from China (PRC), it's not.
The case which kb1992 has brought forward is about pax having their flights cancelled because the PRC reduced allowed occupancy rate on flights TO China.
Those flights can still leave with normal occupancy when departing FROM China, unless I'm mistaken. So pax booked on flights departing FROM China are not affected.
Same aircraft. Inbound to China (PRC) maximum capacity is cut, Outbound from China (PRC), it's not.
its absolutely insane what they are doing. Willing to see people starve to death in their showcase city in order to try and stamp out omicron. Nuts, completely bonkers!
#1728


Join Date: May 2009
Location: SIN (with a bit of ZRH sprinkled in)
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Pax on 858 certainly are affected. Were locked in our apartments with no food delivery. How are we supposed to escape the lockdown, evade the police for 50km whilst we walk to Pudong airport as there is no transport?
its absolutely insane what they are doing. Willing to see people starve to death in their showcase city in order to try and stamp out omicron. Nuts, completely bonkers!
its absolutely insane what they are doing. Willing to see people starve to death in their showcase city in order to try and stamp out omicron. Nuts, completely bonkers!
#1729
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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People most certainly are starving. Our very own moondog is almost out of food as well. Your pro government musings are usually good for a laugh, in this case I wish youd just cool it whilst we are suffering here. Thanks.
#1730


Join Date: May 2009
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also if you really think my statement is anyhow pro government, you must have a weird understanding of it. The handling of Omicron by the PRC is wrong, full stop.
#1731


Join Date: Jul 2011
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i would like to hear that from moondog myself, or anyone else on the ground, because those people I know in Shanghai are certainly Pissed about the situation, but not going hungry. At least not yet. If they cant find a solution (aka, living with covid) then it might become darker quite soon, but we arent yet where people are literally starving to death in Holodomir-style, as you claim it.
Quoting that, just to preserve it.
#1732
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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i would like to hear that from moondog myself, or anyone else on the ground, because those people I know in Shanghai are certainly Pissed about the situation, but not going hungry. At least not yet. If they cant find a solution (aka, living with covid) then it might become darker quite soon, but we arent yet where people are literally starving to death in Holodomir-style, as you claim it.
also if you really think my statement is anyhow pro government, you must have a weird understanding of it. The handling of Omicron by the PRC is wrong, full stop.
also if you really think my statement is anyhow pro government, you must have a weird understanding of it. The handling of Omicron by the PRC is wrong, full stop.
#1733




Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: HKG
Posts: 1,397
Apparently there is a way. Someone forwarded a pdf to the WeChat group regarding the details. Basically you need to get approval from your neighbourhood authorities, then book a transfer that takes you to the hospital for the Covid test and finally to the airport.
#1734
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: BOS, PVG
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Not sure what you're trying to say.
The case which kb1992 has brought forward is about pax having their flights cancelled because the PRC reduced allowed occupancy rate on flights TO China.
Those flights can still leave with normal occupancy when departing FROM China, unless I'm mistaken. So pax booked on flights departing FROM China are not affected.
Same aircraft. Inbound to China (PRC) maximum capacity is cut, Outbound from China (PRC), it's not.
The case which kb1992 has brought forward is about pax having their flights cancelled because the PRC reduced allowed occupancy rate on flights TO China.
Those flights can still leave with normal occupancy when departing FROM China, unless I'm mistaken. So pax booked on flights departing FROM China are not affected.
Same aircraft. Inbound to China (PRC) maximum capacity is cut, Outbound from China (PRC), it's not.
My friend bought a $2200 W ticket, and got bumped!
Another friend bought a $6600 B ticket, and his reservation seems still intact.
Both have no status. I guess UA will protect GS and 1K, regardless of fares.
#1735
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 11,250
This is exactly what happened.
I guess UA will bump pax based on status and fare paid.
My friend bought a $2200 W ticket, and got bumped!
Another friend bought a $6600 B ticket, and his reservation seems still intact.
Both have no status. I guess UA will protect GS and 1K, regardless of fares.
I guess UA will bump pax based on status and fare paid.
My friend bought a $2200 W ticket, and got bumped!
Another friend bought a $6600 B ticket, and his reservation seems still intact.
Both have no status. I guess UA will protect GS and 1K, regardless of fares.
#1736
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I agree. Unless there are PRC nationals returning home to China, no reasons for American to come to China and subject to the stubborn zero tolerence policy. State Department just issued travel alerts to China and HK.
#1737
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I am booked on May 8 SFO-PVG and closely watching the situation in Shanghai. It's wait and see for me.
I am aware of State Dept warning about traveling to China, and the story that US Consulate Shanghai marines are running out of fresh food :-)
#1738


Join Date: Jul 2011
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People are just generally pissed. And then, like in all areas, you have a lot of people who become officers who should never become officers, who are just on a power trip. This officer had ZERO common sense in trying to enforce 2m social distancing between members of the same household. And absolutely deserved to be punched because he made physical contact first:
https://www.reddit.com/r/shanghai/co...omforting_his/
Then there are the protests over lack of food:
https://www.reddit.com/r/shanghai/co...e_is_starting/
https://www.reddit.com/r/shanghai/co...d_in_shanghai/
https://www.reddit.com/r/shanghai/co...ening_tonight/
And how did this happen? (assuming the caption is correct)
https://www.reddit.com/r/shanghai/co...oor_in_qingpu/
If this is going on all over the city, this might explain things:
https://www.reddit.com/r/shanghai/co...y_force_in_sh/
You're going to barge into people's homes when they're pissed off, short on food, and likely have a short fuse? It's not a reason to push someone off a balcony but you couldn't pay me to do that job right now. Then again, I suspect (just wildly guessing) that this person who was pushed probably was on a power trip similar to the officer in the first video, and the people in that last video. If you are going to try barging into people's homes, you'd better have MAJOR de-escalation training or you are putting your life at risk. And even then, it's probably best to just not do it. Just put a sensor on the door and make sure they don't leave.
Other story I've heard is that it was a suicide. Either way, people are now literally dying because of this stupidity.
Last edited by STS-134; Apr 9, 2022 at 12:42 pm
#1739
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i would like to hear that from moondog myself, or anyone else on the ground, because those people I know in Shanghai are certainly Pissed about the situation, but not going hungry. At least not yet. If they cant find a solution (aka, living with covid) then it might become darker quite soon, but we arent yet where people are literally starving to death in Holodomir-style, as you claim it.
#1740




Join Date: May 2010
Location: AVP & PEK
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Anyone in Shanghai can rest easy: the decontamination effort is nearing perfection:
https://www.reddit.com/r/shanghai/co...ate_apartment/
https://www.reddit.com/r/shanghai/co...ate_apartment/

