Current China Entry policy
#1816


Join Date: May 2009
Location: SIN (with a bit of ZRH sprinkled in)
Programs: KrisFlyer Gold
Posts: 9,606
Food situation from those people I know in Shanghai myself is quite good considering the situation (between "ok I have enough" and "I got way more than I need and share it with neighboors") but their mental health is slowly but steadily starting to get worse (which I definitely won't hold against them), with all of them at least making plans to leave the PRC (for a longer time at least, till they - PRC gov - get their act together..)
#1817




Join Date: May 2010
Location: AVP & PEK
Programs: UA 1K 2MM
Posts: 7,868
#1818
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 11,259
What YuropFlyer said is pretty much spot on regarding food for those of us in the downtown districts. We all get enough through group buys, some random government veggie deliveries and scrounging around eleme and Meituan for open stores that deliver. Those people I know on the outskirts of the city have a tougher time of it but still manage to get enough to survive. This, of course, does not excuse the government for putting us in this situation.
Mental health is declining for lots of people manifesting itself in daytime drinking, people lashing out at their kids/partners and just general depression. Its not a healthy way to run a country or an economy. Thats for sure.
Mental health is declining for lots of people manifesting itself in daytime drinking, people lashing out at their kids/partners and just general depression. Its not a healthy way to run a country or an economy. Thats for sure.
#1819
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: BOS, YVR, ZRH
Programs: *G
Posts: 18,130
What YuropFlyer said is pretty much spot on regarding food for those of us in the downtown districts. We all get enough through group buys, some random government veggie deliveries and scrounging around eleme and Meituan for open stores that deliver. Those people I know on the outskirts of the city have a tougher time of it but still manage to get enough to survive. This, of course, does not excuse the government for putting us in this situation.
Mental health is declining for lots of people manifesting itself in daytime drinking, people lashing out at their kids/partners and just general depression. Its not a healthy way to run a country or an economy. Thats for sure.
Mental health is declining for lots of people manifesting itself in daytime drinking, people lashing out at their kids/partners and just general depression. Its not a healthy way to run a country or an economy. Thats for sure.
#1821
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Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: FLL, MEL, SIN, WAS
Programs: SQ, UA*Lifetime GS, Hyatt* Lifetime Globalist
Posts: 13,420
Just look at the history of China... the recent 40 years is just a blip. People should not have illusion that things have changed. History tends to repeat itself..... at least for China there is enough data (over thousands of years) to project the trend.
Last edited by UA_Flyer; Apr 26, 2022 at 4:35 am
#1822




Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: TAS
Programs: A3*G, UA 1K
Posts: 9,250
Mentally - prepared as well. For those that are not introverts like me, lockdowns can be very very tough. Even for introverts like me, it's not easy.
#1823




Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Sunset Beach NC
Programs: UA Platinum MM, AA Platinum Pro, Honors Lifetime Diamond, Marriott Gold, Hertz President’s Cir
Posts: 3,721
Chatted with my American friends last night. They’re doing okay (meh was the response I got). They’re at least able to get and walk around their complex. They’ve got no issues getting food. They’ve been in lockdown since March 18th so it’s over a month for them.
#1824
formerly known as Tad's Broiled Steaks




Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 6,424
TBH, I miss having China as a playground ... the random alpine slides and giant bumper car attractions, the furniture stores blaring slow techno music at 1am, and the vegetable dishes drowning in pork oil, what a treat.
But, it's got some spectacularly beautiful places, too, and the transportation infrastructure is a marvel. However, working there again doesn't sound worth it.
#1825
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: BOS, PVG
Programs: United Global Services and 1MM, Marriott Titanium, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 10,304
Just saw this:
https://piao.tips/04fa1ba001/
CAAC will extend 40% capacity control on all US carriers flights to China in May.
Not surprisingly, I just discovered that UA has blocked all ticket sales for UA 857 SFO-PVG in May.
Few hours ago you can buy a J ticket for $19,000. Now you can't even buy that.
Soon UA will start canceling people's tickets and kick them out.
https://piao.tips/04fa1ba001/
CAAC will extend 40% capacity control on all US carriers flights to China in May.
Not surprisingly, I just discovered that UA has blocked all ticket sales for UA 857 SFO-PVG in May.
Few hours ago you can buy a J ticket for $19,000. Now you can't even buy that.
Soon UA will start canceling people's tickets and kick them out.
#1826

Join Date: Aug 2021
Programs: UA 1MM
Posts: 407
Just saw this:
https://piao.tips/04fa1ba001/
CAAC will extend 40% capacity control on all US carriers flights to China in May.
Not surprisingly, I just discovered that UA has blocked all ticket sales for UA 857 SFO-PVG in May.
Few hours ago you can buy a J ticket for $19,000. Now you can't even buy that.
Soon UA will start canceling people's tickets and kick them out.
https://piao.tips/04fa1ba001/
CAAC will extend 40% capacity control on all US carriers flights to China in May.
Not surprisingly, I just discovered that UA has blocked all ticket sales for UA 857 SFO-PVG in May.
Few hours ago you can buy a J ticket for $19,000. Now you can't even buy that.
Soon UA will start canceling people's tickets and kick them out.
#1827
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: BOS, PVG
Programs: United Global Services and 1MM, Marriott Titanium, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 10,304
AA/DL/UA cheapest one-way coach ticket to China costs $6,600+
On most days even that is not available as flights are simply full with capacity restriction.
#1828




Join Date: May 2010
Location: AVP & PEK
Programs: UA 1K 2MM
Posts: 7,868
It's an additional, $3000 pre-spend with United in order to get a better chance of remaining on the United flight to China.
#1829
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: BOS, PVG
Programs: United Global Services and 1MM, Marriott Titanium, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 10,304
I believe 'boat stuck' is referring to $3000 spend (PQP) on United Airlines PRIOR TO A CHINA TRIP to get to SILVER Mileage Plus status, and thusly be in a MUCH better position [than many others on the flight] to NOT be kicked when the subsequent CHINA flight reservations get chopped from ~70% down to ~40%.
It's an additional, $3000 pre-spend with United in order to get a better chance of remaining on the United flight to China.
It's an additional, $3000 pre-spend with United in order to get a better chance of remaining on the United flight to China.
My friend bought $6,600 ticket and was safe. He has no status.
I think UA values a non-status pax bought $6,600 B fare higher than an 1K on $3,000 Q fare.....
#1830




Join Date: May 2010
Location: AVP & PEK
Programs: UA 1K 2MM
Posts: 7,868
Aye, I think you might be right ----> I wasn't endorsing the idea, only trying to explain its foundation!

