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Old Apr 17, 2022 | 10:23 pm
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Originally Posted by YariGuy
The Shanghai lockdown itself ends at the border, but many other cities (including ones that abut Shanghai) have varying degrees of lockdown.

But, even if locked down (or even put in central quarantine), people should have access to the phone, etc.
Thanks ! Appreciate it.
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Old Apr 17, 2022 | 10:38 pm
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Originally Posted by travelinmanS
Hopefully the geniuses at the top do it soon. Im running low on food now.
Same here in Handan.....For lunch today, I'm just about to cook a 2 year old Christmas pudding I found at the back of the food cupboard....It's the blitz spirit that's going to get us Brit's through this mess.....


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Old Apr 18, 2022 | 4:02 am
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Originally Posted by steveb1955
Same here in Handan.....For lunch today, I'm just about to cook a 2 year old Christmas pudding I found at the back of the food cupboard....It's the blitz spirit that's going to get us Brit's through this mess.....


Not to worry, the Cider will have kept it fresh!
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Old Apr 19, 2022 | 5:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Q Shoe Guy
I have a question , does the Shanghai lockdown extend to the places that abut the metropolitan area? If so , how far ? I've been trying to get in touch with an acquaintance and haven't been able to reach them. TIA.
Everyone my wife normally talks to over there is locked down. All are in contact.
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Old Apr 20, 2022 | 2:15 am
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After omicron China's response doesn't really make sense at all. It is much more contagious than the previous strains, but it's milder. China seriously should reconsider it's zero covid policy, like the rest of the world is doing. Even Australia did that and opened their borders for foreigners in the end.
Here in Norway everything is back to 2019 , all corona related t restrictons have ended (that includes international travel) which means that if you could enter Norway pre march 2020 you can do it now without any restrictions like testing etc. There are still people dying of course of covid 19 but the median age has rised from 85 to 86 which is an age range many people die anyway.

Anyway I hope China somewhere in the future allows for international travel, but it doesn't seem to happen any time soon with the strict zero covid 19 policy they have in place.
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Old Apr 20, 2022 | 7:52 am
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Yes, well, it is widely acknowledged that China's covid strategy is all politics now.
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Old Apr 21, 2022 | 4:35 pm
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Originally Posted by angetenar
Yes, well, it is widely acknowledged that China's covid strategy is all politics now.
Does the Kingdom have an Exit strategy of COVID, after so many self-inflicted wounds?
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Old Apr 21, 2022 | 5:50 pm
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Originally Posted by kb1992
Does the Kingdom have an Exit strategy of COVID, after so many self-inflicted wounds?
From Sinocism:
On Thursday [April 21 2022] the city government announced it will “carry out nine major actions to clear community-level transmission from April 22nd, and strive to realize the clearing community-level transmission in Shanghai as soon as possible". Included in those 9 actions are more lockdowns, testing, and quarantining. The local officials are increasingly stressed about getting the situation under control.
Really the government is trying to ensure social stability over everything else. I honestly think they are not too concerned about the case numbers because they have an extremely high threshold of "dying from Covid" (i.e. it needs to be the main cause of death, but many deaths of people with covid are attributed to something else)*. As long as people aren't too upset, no reason to change anything.
* source: https://www.vice.com/en/article/3abm...-toll-lockdown

What would be annoying is that the wave ends at some point (either naturally or through more underreporting of case numbers) and then borders are still closed, because of some silly reason. Like what Hong Kong is doing.
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Old Apr 21, 2022 | 8:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel
Everyone my wife normally talks to over there is locked down. All are in contact.
Was able to make contact , thanks ! Was told everything is A-OK and there is nothing to worry about.....
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Old Apr 21, 2022 | 8:29 pm
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Was able to make contact , thanks ! Was told everything is A-OK and there is nothing to worry about.....

Originally Posted by YariGuy
The Shanghai lockdown itself ends at the border, but many other cities (including ones that abut Shanghai) have varying degrees of lockdown.

But, even if locked down (or even put in central quarantine), people should have access to the phone, etc.
Originally Posted by Loren Pechtel
Everyone my wife normally talks to over there is locked down. All are in contact.
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Old Apr 21, 2022 | 8:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Q Shoe Guy
Was told everything is A-OK and there is nothing to worry about.....
There is no coronavirus in Ba Sing Se.
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Old Apr 22, 2022 | 3:51 am
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Originally Posted by gudugan
From Sinocism:


Really the government is trying to ensure social stability over everything else. I honestly think they are not too concerned about the case numbers because they have an extremely high threshold of "dying from Covid" (i.e. it needs to be the main cause of death, but many deaths of people with covid are attributed to something else)*. As long as people aren't too upset, no reason to change anything.
* source: https://www.vice.com/en/article/3abm...-toll-lockdown

What would be annoying is that the wave ends at some point (either naturally or through more underreporting of case numbers) and then borders are still closed, because of some silly reason. Like what Hong Kong is doing.
Borders have only gotten closed tighter from 2020 to 2021 to now in 2022 where they require 4 separate Covid tests over a week just to get on the plane which you now have to pay $9000 for an economy ticket to China.

The message is quite clear. China wants to shut itself off from the world. I hate this since Ive based my career and life here for the last 20+ years, but its a reality Im beginning to accept.

We are not ever going back to 2019 levels of access to China for both people and foreign businesses, unless there is a change in leadership. The current guy seems like hes happy to bring China back a few decades as long as hes the guy running the place.
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Old Apr 22, 2022 | 9:46 pm
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And regarding shutting itself off, China is making it very hard for people to leave the country (Chinese people that is, I presume foreigners have no issues). My friend is trying to do it but you have to get through immigrant, who may just tear up your papers.
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Old Apr 22, 2022 | 9:57 pm
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Originally Posted by travelinmanS
Borders have only gotten closed tighter from 2020 to 2021 to now in 2022 where they require 4 separate Covid tests over a week just to get on the plane which you now have to pay $9000 for an economy ticket to China.
The door to HK is still wide-open. As HK just announced its own reopening to non-residents starting 1 May, that provides another avenue for those who want to enter China. Obviously an extra 7 days of quarantine in HK as well as flight ban uncertainties need to be factored in.
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Old Apr 22, 2022 | 11:14 pm
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Originally Posted by tauphi
The door to HK is still wide-open. As HK just announced its own reopening to non-residents starting 1 May, that provides another avenue for those who want to enter China. Obviously an extra 7 days of quarantine in HK as well as flight ban uncertainties need to be factored in.
As HK relaxes, China will treat HK as if AU or US (I dont think well be allowed to get that far. Im happy to be proven wrong).
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