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Old May 4, 2022 | 8:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Palal
So Beijing changed inbound quarantine rules yesterday:
- Need to stay out of Beijing for 14 days before being allowed in.
- If flying directly to BJ, need to do 14 days in centralized quarantine + 7 days health monitoring OR 10 days in centralized quarantine + 7 days home isolation (if you live in BJ)

For close contacts of COVID cases that require centralized isolation: reduced to 10 days centralized isolation + 7 days home isolation
Isolation for secondary close contacts has also been reduced to 7 days (home isolation)
Fortress Covid! 中国加油!
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Old May 4, 2022 | 10:31 pm
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Originally Posted by gudugan
lol you actually want to take UA 857 in a week? I thought this was a holiday?!
In 4 days, if I manage to get a blue code from SF Consulate.

Staying at Sheraton SJC for the week at $99 plus tax per night and got upgraded to a suite. Toured high tech HQs like Apple, FB, Google, Cisco, Intel. Enjoy California sunshine and food.

Originally Posted by travelinmanS
Why would you go to China now? I just escaped Shanghai and can't fathom a reason to go there outside of a parent/close relative being extremely sick there.
It isn't that bad. AFAIK, if I choose Shanghai as quarantine site, I only need to be quarantined 14 days then I can move to a Marriott or RC. I am hoping some local connection can get me a nice quarantine hotel.

Or if I opt Shanghai 3+ Jiangsu 11 option, I'll be moved to hometown in Jiangsu after day 3. I am pretty sure that my hometown government officials and friends will take good care of me such as arranging a suite in the best available quarantine hotel for me. The drawback is that it will be additional +7+7 plus 3+11

By the way my ticket is 35K XN saver award upgraded to J. I am saving $18,000.


Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
May be kb1992 is semi-retired or worked for himself, and will be in China for the long haul just like the last time he was there. IIRC, he is originally from China and has local ties and family there.

Like others, I have left and not looking back, and hope won't have to go back until Covid restriction is over in China. Having done four quarantines in China and each time getting worse and longer, I am not getting paid enough to go back.
Yes I have relatives in China, including very old in-law, and I promised to visit them. I have 4 months in China this trip and should have plenty of time to tour some places. I know 30% of China is locked down, but I can go to the other 70% part of the country. I enjoy sightseeing, especially when it's not crowded.

Most importantly, I am not trapped in any city or 小区. Therefore I only need to be alert that I can escape before any lockdown.

I fully expect that situation in Shanghai will improve significantly in 3 weeks. The stupid zero COVID policy doesn't work. Hopefully the emperor and his lieutenants would realize that the earlier the better.
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Old May 5, 2022 | 8:29 am
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I don’t tend to like “Emperor” comments but kb1992 is spot on.
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Old May 6, 2022 | 4:28 am
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Originally Posted by YuropFlyer
I dont tend to like Emperor comments but kb1992 is spot on.
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Old May 6, 2022 | 8:27 am
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Originally Posted by percysmith
Well, that's certainly more creative, and matching the current political climate, so I say that's approved
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Old May 6, 2022 | 8:44 am
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Originally Posted by kb1992
I fully expect that situation in Shanghai will improve significantly in 3 weeks. The stupid zero COVID policy doesn't work. Hopefully the emperor and his lieutenants would realize that the earlier the better.
Palpatine still refuses to change course: https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/06/china...hnk/index.html

Which of these lieutenants is going to be Darth Vader and throw him down the shaft in the Death Star?
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Old May 6, 2022 | 1:23 pm
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Originally Posted by percysmith
Originally Posted by YuropFlyer
Well, that's certainly more creative, and matching the current political climate, so I say that's approved
I approve that too.

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Palpatine still refuses to change course: https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/06/china...hnk/index.html

Which of these lieutenants is going to be Darth Vader and throw him down the shaft in the Death Star?
We are witnessing that the kingdom is on a slippery curve towards disaster.

But, I am afraid that vast majority of 1.4 billion in the kingdom want zero COVID.
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Old May 6, 2022 | 1:40 pm
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Originally Posted by kb1992
We are witnessing that the kingdom is on a slippery curve towards disaster.

But, I am afraid that vast majority of 1.4 billion in the kingdom want zero COVID.
I wouldn't be so sure. Pretty much all of my Chinese friends have had enough of the lockdowns. Hell, even my wife's family, some of whom are (at least on paper) CCP members have had enough. But to the best of my knowledge, no one has polled them to ask.
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Old May 8, 2022 | 4:48 pm
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Rumors swirling around WeChat that Xi won't be re-elected
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Old May 8, 2022 | 6:13 pm
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Originally Posted by angetenar
Rumors swirling around WeChat that Xi won't be re-elected
[citation needed]

on a slightly more serious note, theres no Xi successor (theyve all been purged), Jiang faction has no nominee, and princelings dont have one either. A lack of a re-election would effectively mean a coup by the latter two groups
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Old May 8, 2022 | 6:36 pm
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Originally Posted by gudugan
[citation needed]
Citation needed for the rumors swirling around?
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Old May 8, 2022 | 11:47 pm
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Originally Posted by angetenar
Rumors swirling around WeChat that Xi won't be re-elected
He wont be re-elected simply because he was never elected in the first place. He will, however, maintain the title of General Secretary, President, grand Poobah, Great Helmsman and whatever else he wants to call himself.

I hope, for the future of China, that those rumors are true, but Im pretty sure they are as accurate as all the we chat rumors about dates the lockdown will lift in Shanghai. Honestly I cant imagine someone doing a worse job than the Chairman has this year. Absolutely horrid performance in 2022 so far.
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Old May 9, 2022 | 8:46 am
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Has Shanghai Been Xinjianged?
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Old May 9, 2022 | 9:08 am
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Bluehen1, if you just want to post American Anti-China propaganda, might be better if you'd go to Bad OMNI to dump it there.. we're trying to keep it civil here.

And I agree with travelinmanS, 2022 has seen an extremely bad year for President Xi so far. Sure, they managed to hold the Olympic Games in it's bubble fairly well (which actually surprise me, considering how contagious Omicron is), but the failure to change/upgrade their Covid-strategy is in one word, a disaster. They had several months to react/adapt their strategy, once it became clear that Omicron is a major game changer, and all they did was going in the wrong direction.

While his politics prior - both regarding covid and general leadership - are clearly those of a great statemen, his inability to accept the facts you can't always force through your plans no matter what, might come hurt him now hard.

It's like being too successful with something can have bad side effects. Overconfidence, in short.

I still hope for a soon-to-happen adjustment of their covid policies, but recent speeches/events/actions are NOT going in the right direction.

Even without the hyperbole that some used here, it's clear to say: What's going on in China, and especially Shanghai, is failing to cope with reality.
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Old May 9, 2022 | 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by YuropFlyer
Bluehen1, if you just want to post American Anti-China propaganda, might be better if you'd go to Bad OMNI to dump it there.. we're trying to keep it civil here.
According to xjp, staying the course is the way to go. He thinks China won the battle in Wuhan, and therefore will win again in Shanghai. So I don't see why anyone would think things would magically get better.

In addition to combat COVID itself, one of his top priority right now is to fight against any distortion, doubts or criticism of the governments COVID policies, which includes pretty much every post in this thread, including yours, so there's no need to point finger at others.
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